The Russia - Ukraine Conflict

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Russians are taking it easy and holding back. They are arguing it is "peacekeeping mission" and not war.

They want to Isolate pro-west Ukrainian politicians and install new government friendly to Russia.

 

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This dudes get such a hard-on for blaming America they inadvertently giving us way more credit for stuff. Like Russia hasn’t invaded before America was even 25 states.

The only reason we got Alaska is because of Russia going to war with a bad economy.


The CIA is apparently grand wizards with masterly level skill of manipulation yet the world is also turning against the west also. How sway?



When America was just 13 colonies the Tsar's Russian Empire was the largest nation on earth and stretched 3 continents....

Now Putin is on record saying he wants to rebuild that and people don't see any issue.
 

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Ukraine needs to wave the damn white flag. :damn: their only chance is outside intervention. Thats not happening
 

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This dudes get such a hard-on for blaming America they inadvertently giving us way more credit for stuff. Like Russia hasn’t invaded before America was even 25 states.

The only reason we got Alaska is because of Russia going to war with a bad economy.


The CIA is apparently grand wizards with masterly level skill of manipulation yet the world is also turning against the west also. How sway?

We aren’t talking about the Stone Age, you idiot.

This is about post WW2. And yes, CIA is the ground wizard when you have over 200 military bases dotted across the globe. Is that too difficult for ya brain to muster?
 

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Russians are taking it easy and holding back. They are arguing it is "peacekeeping mission" and not war.

They want to Isolate pro-west Ukrainian politicians and install new government friendly to Russia.


I think that's their goal. They're not trying to take Ukraine city by city which could kill lot of civilians and their own soldiers. But they want to quickly capture the capital and the president and install a puppet regime which would order Ukrainian Army to surrender and then they could crush any remaining resistance alongside collaborationist Ukrainian Army.
 
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When America was just 13 colonies the Tsar's Russian Empire was the largest nation on earth and stretched 3 continents....

Now Putin is on record saying he wants to rebuild that and people don't see any issue.

Cuz it’s fake outrage until he attack a NATO country

I hope you don’t listen to North Koreas rhetoric cuz you’d be stressing everyday
 

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The Battle for Kiev is kicking off.

Time to grab a cup of tea and enjoy the spectacle.

War is no joke but the world has enjoyed wars and destruction of African and Arab countries for 3 decades now with impunity. No crime in enjoying this one.

Message to Americans: your country is responsible for most of the criminal invasions and bloodshed in the world, in the last 6 decades. And just because some people don’t align with your country’s criminal foreign policy - that doesn’t make them a commie or an agent. I know a lot of you are poorly educated and emotionally unstable - grow a pair/brain and stop accusing anyone that doesn’t agree with you of nonsense. It’s a massive world outside America and no one owes you shyt.

Do you think Russia's actions are justified?
 

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Yikes, I’m just thinking about what happened to to Gaddafi, the last Head of State who was taken out in a humiliating fashion…but it was different since it was a civil war. Same thing happened to the Egyptian military dictator who took over for Sadat and the Muslim puppet propped by Obama….all were executed or died in prison. Maybe this President will be smart and flee like the Afghan President did when the Taliban knocked on his door

He’d be stupid to do a Gaddafi. Gaddafi could’ve escaped if he wanted to and the Chinese would’ve given him cover via Zimbabwe. But I believe he rejected the offer because he thought Berlusconi would help him - not knowing those war hawks wanted his head.

The same Berlusconi ended up getting disgraced out of office after Gaddafi was killed.
 

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This dudes get such a hard-on for blaming America they inadvertently giving us way more credit for stuff. Like Russia hasn’t invaded before America was even 25 states.

The only reason we got Alaska is because of Russia going to war with a bad economy.


The CIA is apparently grand wizards with masterly level skill of manipulation yet the world is also turning against the west also. How sway?
40 years ago the CIA was pressing the world on political ideology today it’s all about finance. The crypto plays in the next few days will be interesting…
 

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Where are the mass protests in Moscow and St. Petersburg?

Pockets of protesters =/= mass protests. If you want to know what mass anti-war protests look like - Google 2003 anti-war protests in London against the invasion of Iraq and Afghanistan.

Also, you’re also off with your analysis. The invasion is going to play out the same way Georgia played out in 2008, albeit with regime change in Kiev this time. Once they overthrow the US puppet in power and restore the country back to where it was in 2014 - before the democratically elected president was overthrown by CIA funded fake Arab Spring protests - they have no reason to stay there.

And just because the Russians started Day 1 with their older military hardware - that doesn’t they have “older weapons”. Even the US military said it yesterday but some of you are still in denial. They’re using more modern weapons in Syria than in Ukraine and that should tell you something.

You’re talking to someone who’s had to spend hours studying stupid pictures of an array of Eastern European equipment to regurgitate it back to leadership for “training” (also learning weak spots in armor and learning developing enemy technology) lol. Many people across the board have held a combat arms MOS and know what the Russians have and had been developing.

Aside from that I’ve also served with real Ukrainians (and a few Russians) who’d spent most of the lives there before immigrating to the US. The old President wasn’t very popular as he was loyal to Putin. Living under Putin’s rules is also not popular. You don’t work for the state department/foreign service so why make shyt up about the CIA because you think you have some idea about what they do or did.

With Putin in charge thousands of people protesting together (which there is plenty of footage of from the several major Russian cities) = very much equals mass protests.

There’s been a range of new to older equipment in use (like the KA-52’s), with expects reserves in Russia and Belarus. This hasn’t been anything like Georgia. They were virtually dead in the water by day 1.5. Ukraine is a much stronger state though still relatively weak compared to Russia. I don’t wish it to happen but there’s a real chance this could turn into a lighter version of the battle of Grozny and such.

All that being said. Russia =/= U.S., the UK, or China. They’ve been working to modernize since their invasion of Georgia but they still have a lot to do. They don’t have the same ability to manufacture equipment and field it that fast. You’ve been watching all these countries, on the news, at quarter to half speed, on the news. We haven’t really seen anyone completely go full throttle aside from Armenia and Azerbaijan. Russia IS going pretty hard at the moment only a small majority of the their personnel have real experience doing what they’re doing and are going to have to learn on the fly. That’s essentially combat in a nutshell. This wasn’t a feint or reconnaissance operation we’ve all been watching. This is full on forced entry trying to use a similar playbook that the US Army used in Iraq. They even tried the long range air assault to get a foothold at an airfield but the Armor and mechanized units got held up too long.
 
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