The plot of a new Fox animated comedy series is about a guy who gets a $3,000 monthly 'universal basic income'

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The plot of a new Fox animated comedy series is about a guy who gets a $3,000 monthly 'universal basic income'​

Kenneth Niemeyer

Jun 29, 2024, 9:17 AM EDT


Character Mark Hoagies from the upcoming animated Universal Basic Guys on Fox.

"Universal Basic Guys" on Fox satirizes universal basic income programs. It will air in the fall. Fox

  • Fox will release "Universal Basic Guys," a new animated series, this fall.
  • The show satirizes universal basic income. It stars two brothers in a $3,000-a-month program.
  • While basic income programs have become popular in the US, they are not without detractors.

If you do anything successfully for long enough, someone is bound to make a quippy cartoon about it. Basic income programs are the next victim, now on Fox.

"Universal Basic Guys" stars a pair of brothers who join a $3,000-a-month basic income program after the hot dog factory where they work becomes automated. A universal basic income is often cited as a potential solution to the likely job losses created by artificial intelligence.

The animated series is co-produced by Fox Entertainment and Sony Pictures Television. Fox and Sony first ordered the first season in 2022. It is scheduled to premiere in the fall, but Fox has already ordered a second season.

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An Iowa basic income project gives low-income residents $500 a month. They say it helps them make rent and buy food.

The show follows brothers Mark and Hank Hoagies. Destitute and looking for purpose, the brothers discover their town has a "radical universal basic income" pilot program.

The show is a satirical take on the numerous basic income pilots that cities across the United States have experimented with in recent years. Most of these are guaranteed basic income programs, which target low-income residents by offering them monthly cash payments with no strings attached. Most programs, like one in Iowa that gives low-income residents $500 a month, report that recipients spend most of the funds on essentials like rent and food.

A universal basic income was made popular by entrepreneur Andrew Yang during the 2020 presidential election and continues to be a favorite talking point for tech CEOs working in the AI industry. A universal basic income would give monthly no-strings-attached cash payments to everyone, regardless of their financial status.

While more cities are experimenting with basic income programs, they have also been the target of conservative ire. Some lawmakers have criticized the programs as akin to socialism, while others have called them unconstitutional. A common refrain is that basic incomes encourage recipients not to work, though studies have shown the opposite.

For the Hoagies brothers, the monthly payments allow them to relive their youth with some local friends. The program the brothers join is a universal program, meaning all members of the town receive $3,000 a month.

"Mark, Hank, and the rest of their local buddies are once again kids in the summertime, overflowing with the perilous combo of free time and stupid ideas," the show's description says. "This is a show about men trying to find purpose in a world where they're no longer needed."

"Universal Basic Guys" is set to join Fox's "Animation Domination" lineup. Promotional marketing for the show features the main character, Mark Hoagies, alongside Homer Simpson of "The Simpsons" and Bob of "Bob's Burgers," two other downtrodden animated patriarchs popular on Fox.

In a statement, Michael Thorn, Fox's network president, said that co-creators and executive producers Adam and Craig Malamut are "two of the boldest and most irreverent voices" on television. The brothers are best known for their work on "Game of Zones," a popular "Game of Thrones" parody about the NBA that ran for seven seasons on Bleacher Report.

Sony Pictures Television Studios and the Malamut brothers did not immediately return a request for comment from Business Insider.
 

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The Billionaire-Fueled Lobbying Group Behind the State Bills to Ban Basic Income Experiments​



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28 FEB 2024 — 16 MIN READ


The Billionaire-Fueled Lobbying Group Behind the State Bills to Ban Basic Income Experiments
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The Foundation for Government Accountability - a Florida-based lobbying group backed by the richest 1% - is working to get basic income experiments banned by state legislators across the U.S.​

(This article is also available as a YouTube video and as a podcast episode)

As a well-known quote often wrongly attributed to Mahatma Gandhi says, “First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win.” As of 2024, the basic income movement in the United States is now firmly in the "then they fight you" stage thanks to a slew of bills introduced in state after state that are all attempting to ban the basic income experiments that have spread across the country. Over 150 guaranteed basic income pilots are now ongoing or recently completed in 24 states as of this writing, and so far, bills in seven states have been introduced to stop them. All of the bills are the result of efforts by the Foundation for Government Accountability (FGA) - a lobbying group with a billionaire-fueled junk science record every American should know about.

First, to bring every reader up to speed, basic income (or UBI) is "a periodic cash payment, unconditionally delivered to all on an individual basis, without means test or work requirement." Although such payments without conditions already exist upon a mountain of evidence, post-2020, experiments have exploded in cities across the U.S. thanks to the efforts of Mayors for Guaranteed Income (MGI) which was founded in 2020 by former Mayor Michael Tubbs after the success of the pilot in Stockton, CA that provided $500 a month to 125 people for 2 years. The biggest findings there were that full-time employment grew at twice the rate of the control group, and mental health improved significantly. Yes, despite the common fear that people provided basic income would work less, in Stockton, they worked more, and the mental health impact was comparable to medication.

Since the Stockton pilot ended, there have been dozens of other completed pilots with completed reports, all of which report the same general findings over and over again. Employment does not go down to any worrisome degree, and often actually goes up, with people finding better jobs and better pay, and where wage work is reduced, people invest in schooling or pursue unpaid work or self-employment. With each experiment's results, the case for UBI becomes stronger, and it's clear that some very wealthy people don't like those results.

In March of 2021 and again in late 2022, Texas became the first state to attempt to stop more results. House Bill 4550 in 2021 and then House Bill 553 in 2022 both included the following wording:

"PROHIBITION ON PROVIDING UNIVERSAL BASIC INCOME. (a) In this section, 'universal basic income' means unconditional cash grants of equal amounts issued on a regular basis to individual residents of a political subdivision. The term includes a basic income, monthly income, or minimum income paid to each individual resident of the political subdivision without regard to the individual ’s circumstances. (b) Notwithstanding any other law, a political subdivision may not adopt or enforce an ordinance, order, or other measure providing for a universal basic income."

Both bills died in committee. In January 2024, a different approach was taken, with a request for the Texas attorney general to declare such pilots as unconstitutional. It should be noted that as of Feb 2024, there have been seven basic income pilots launched in Texas. One of those that took place in Austin has already published its results. It found that a payment of $1,000 a month to 135 people for one year led to 9% of participants working less and 7% working more, and of those who worked less, half upskilled for better future jobs, and half chose unpaid care work. Housing security also significantly increased, as did food security. Participants lived in better housing and ate more balanced meals, and they also felt significantly more connected to the people and places in their neighborhoods. A ban would have prevented these findings.

In April of 2023, Wisconsin became the next state to attempt to stop more results. At the time, there was a pilot in the city of Madison that wasn't quite done yet, where 155 parents of kids under age 18 got $500 a month for one year. The bill would not have stopped that pilot because it was privately-funded, but the bill was written to stop any future pilots from using any state funds to test "regular periodic cash payments that are unearned and that may be used for any purpose." The bill passed the Wisconsin House and Senate and died by veto by Governor Evers.

In 2024, the anti-UBI bill floodgates opened, starting with Iowa in January and followed in quick succession by West Virginia, South Dakota, Arizona and Arkansas in February. All of them introduced bills of their own to stop basic income pilots, all with similar language. At this point, it became clear that a lobbying organization of some kind was behind the bills, something like the American Legislative Exchange Council that writes bills for legislators to put their names on and pass into law. In my research to discover the group responsible, I found it's the Foundation for Government Accountability, which led down a rabbit hole of dark money and a slew of harmful bills desired by the 1% to reduce their taxes and reduce the power of the 99% to stand in their way.

Who is the FGA?​

The Foundation for Government Accountability was founded in Florida in 2011 by Tarren Bragdon after cutting his chops in Maine at the Maine Heritage Policy Center and then as adviser to Maine's governor, LePage. It was in Maine where Bragdon and a cohort of fellow young conservatives gained a reputation for outrageous anti-welfare policies. “I remember them as a pack of inexperienced, activist right-wingers that went crazy on welfare reform,” said Cynthia Dill, a former state senator to the Washington Post in 2018. “It galled me that they had no expertise whatsoever in health and human services but were appointed to places of power by the LePage administration.”

Bragdon's regressive work in Maine was only the beginning for him. He went on to export that work to every state he could and even the federal government too, starting in 2017 when the FGA attempted to expand the work requirements for SNAP to even include parents and limit waivers for states regardless of unemployment rates. The FGA reports now having relationships with 450 policymakers across the country. Bragdon has described FGA's goal as wanting to "return America to a country where entrepreneurship thrives, personal responsibility is rewarded, and paychecks replace welfare checks," and that their approach is "to really tackle one big issue: how to give more Americans the life-changing power of work, at both the state and federal level.”

At this point, I will remind readers that universal basic income is quite different than welfare in how it doesn't get pulled away with work, which is why so many UBI pilots show increased employment for recipients since all wages from work increase their total income, whereas with conditional welfare they can be left barely better off financially, or even worse off. Means-tested welfare creates cliff effects, and cliff effects disincentivize work. I will also mention that if someone's goal is thriving entrepreneurship, it should be considered very intriguing how often UBI pilots show large increases in entrepreneurship. That is, it should be interesting to those who truly value empirical evidence.

The FGA however is clearly not interested in empirical evidence. One of its first "studies" contributed to Florida Governor Rick Scott's defense of his controversial welfare drug-testing law, requiring benefit recipients to take a drug test as a qualification for benefits. A Bush-appointed federal judge threw out that study as evidence, claiming it was "not competent expert opinion" and that "even a cursory review of certain assumptions in the pamphlet undermines its conclusions."

Florida's law requiring drug tests for welfare applicants ended up identifying only 2.6% testing positive, significantly lower than the general population's rate of 8.13% in Florida. This directly contradicted justifications for the law, which also proved financially wasteful. Florida spent over $118,000 reimbursing those who tested negative, exceeding any program savings and resulting in a net cost exceeding $45,000. It cost more to apply the condition than it saved. It should also be noted that studies of unconditional cash programs tend to show a net reduction in drug use.

In 2016, the FGA touted a study from Kansas of work requirements on SNAP which was panned by both liberal and conservative economists alike for cherry-picking data. “Work requirements should be based on credible evidence and attention to policy details — the exact opposite of what FGA produces,” tweeted Peter Germanis, a conservative economist who served in the Reagan and Bush administrations who went on to tweet, “Tarren Bragdon bases his arguments to support work requirements on the junk science produced by the FGA – no serious researcher would accept their claims."


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One thing about UBI that perplexes me: how is the rate determined?

Sounds like a good idea initially, but skeptical as to it being practical.​
How would you go about it?

Nothing wrong with spit balling ideas :manny:

Cost of living in each state, then the states break it down to the city, then it's broken down even further to your own living expenses (rent, food, utilities) multiplied if you have kids, then each year adjust for inflation

shyt like car notes and loan debt shouldn't come into the equation cuz that's your own personal shyt :ufdup:

That'd be where I start, next step would be figuring out how to stop people from abusing the system (having a bunch of kids for the money and not taking care of em)


It think it should definitely be a thing though, nobody asks to be born and then they have to be thrust into the rat race we call work just to stay afloat. That's bullshyt if we being honest.

Let the people with motivation to do more enjoy the benefits of that, the price of entertainment/nonessential stuff will go up to balance it out so everyone isn't overindulging

The biggest hurdle I see is NO ONE being willing to try because a lot of people don't understand the process of trial & error, they think doing absolutely nothing until some magical perfect plan presents itself makes sense :mjlol: nothing in life works like that, that mindset is gonna hold UBI off for more decades than it needs to



I'd be running simulations with A.I. and top economists to see the best way to handle it
 

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FBI plot trying to discourage the popularity of UBI in America. Trying to make people who advocate and/or want UBI look like losers
Basically


Most of the elite in Hollywood are in the 1% so they don't really benefit from UBI anyway



Aaaaaand most writers are fukking trash and just latch onto anything topical to get attention
 

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Universal basic income ONLY exist in states that's 95+% white.

I've never heard of this, and I know damn well ain't no black folks benefitting from this shyt. Article says Iowa of course. What other places do this? Let me guess. The Dakota's and Montana right?
 

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Universal basic income ONLY exist in states that's 95+% white.

I've never heard of this, and I know damn well ain't no black folks benefitting from this shyt. Article says Iowa of course. What other places do this? Let me guess. The Dakota's and Montana right?
This is ridiculous. It's been plenty of UBI pilots that benefit black people lol.
 

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Lol, yea that's why I was asking kinda. I've never heard of this in any way, shape, or form and you know I stay up on shyt like this.

What other states/cities offer this?
They everywhere. People have been doing pilot programs to study the effects all around the country in various cities. I can't name each one off the top of my head, but they are everywhere. Usually it's several hundred to several thousand people in the studies.
 
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