I have laid it out pretty thoroughly and the results speak for themselves. You dont and/or refuse to see it and disagree apparently. Ok.You still can't put the difference between Tim Duncan's and KD's leadership into words? Besides TD coming in and playing well, can you put into words how KD failed in doing what TD did when it comes to LEADING?
Again being unhappy with losing doesn't make someone a bad leader. Going to a team and not winning a championship also doesn't make someone a bad leader. I gave examples of what exactly made Barkley a bad leader while you can't seem to do the same with KD beyond grasping at straws like him needing the same "pep talks" Kobe and MJ needed
You're only this negative to me because you're (overly)emotionally tied to Lebron and know I don't like him. Most of you "grown man fanboy of other men" fans are pathetic
But yea, the Spurs were a team that knew how to win before Tim Duncan. Him being the player to take them over the top doesn't override the structure/vets that were already in place that made it to where all he had to worry about was playing.
Duncan on the the Thunder with Russell Westbrook (who would think he's just as good if not better than TD) and you dont see the same team success. They'd have to have someone (from the outside) putting pressure on Westbrook to either accept being a B player to his A, or down with trading him altogether because TD (like KD) doesn't have the personality to corral Westbrook. That would have been Pop that had to do that.
But that's basketball talk. You're only here to defend the namesake of a a "aint no party like a Diddy party" lookin ahh nikka
The Phoenix Suns have fired coach Mike Budenholzer. Phoenix is now paying three coaches and don’t have one
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THE COACHES WERE NEVER THE PROBLEM
FRANK VOGEL AND MIKE BUDENHOLZER BOTH WON CHAMPIONSHIPS RECENTLY
MONTY WILLIAMS HAD A 64 WIN SEASON WIT PHOENIX
THE ISSUE IS LACK OF CONTINUITY WITHIN THE ORGANIZATION
FRANK VOGEL AND MIKE BUDENHOLZER BOTH WON CHAMPIONSHIPS RECENTLY
MONTY WILLIAMS HAD A 64 WIN SEASON WIT PHOENIX
THE ISSUE IS LACK OF CONTINUITY WITHIN THE ORGANIZATION
Ironically if the Lakers werent an unstable shyt show that multiple coaches passed on Vogel wouldnt have even gotten either job. He really showed and proved with the opportunities and then took the fall for poor decisions by management.
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I would say Duncan allowed himself to be coached and coached hard. He embraced constructive criticism and feedback. Durant i think hides from it.You still can't put the difference between Tim Duncan's and KD's leadership into words? Besides TD coming in and playing well, can you put into words how KD failed in doing what TD did when it comes to LEADING?
Again being unhappy with losing doesn't make someone a bad leader. Going to a team and not winning a championship also doesn't make someone a bad leader. I gave examples of what exactly made Barkley a bad leader while you can't seem to do the same with KD beyond grasping at straws like him needing the same "pep talks" Kobe and MJ needed
You're only this negative to me because you're (overly)emotionally tied to Lebron and know I don't like him. Most of you "grown man fanboy of other men" fans are pathetic
But yea, the Spurs were a team that knew how to win before Tim Duncan. Him being the player to take them over the top doesn't override the structure/vets that were already in place that made it to where all he had to worry about was playing.
Duncan on the the Thunder with Russell Westbrook (who would think he's just as good if not better than TD) and you dont see the same team success. They'd have to have someone (from the outside) putting pressure on Westbrook to either accept being a B player to his A, or down with trading him altogether because TD (like KD) doesn't have the personality to corral Westbrook. That would have been Pop that had to do that.
But that's basketball talk. You're only here to defend the namesake of a a "aint no party like a Diddy party" lookin ahh nikka
I don't know why there's a discussion on KD being on Duncan's level as a leader in here. WTF.
There shouldn’t be one because no one knows shyt about them as leaders and that’s the point. Results don’t equal leadership. Actions do. I can say LeBron is a better leader than Kevin Durant because of how he has managed comparable situations. I can say the same about Tom Brady versus Aaron Rodgers. Tim Duncan is closer to if a top level striker joined this year’s version of Arsenal. But clearly that point went above your overinflated sense of self head.
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@Gil Scott-Heroin sending a neg and then trying to engage with me is weirdo behavior. I can disagree with @FTBS on this shyt and I’m not going to neg him. I’m not one of these stans you seem to live to argue with like you’re Profasi with a PR makeover. Have a nice day b 
Let me get this straight -@Gil Scott-Heroin sending a neg and then trying to engage with me is weirdo behavior. I can disagree with @FTBS on this shyt and I’m not going to neg him. I’m not one of these stans you seem to live to argue with like you’re Profasi with a PR makeover. Have a nice day b
I make a generalized comment on how bizarre it was to compare KD's leadership to Duncan's (which might I add, numerous posters also had an issue with), not calling out anybody in particular, and yet you chose to go out of your way by quoting my post (with your hit dog who hollered ass) and added some ad hominem bullshyt showing just how emotional you are, and I'm the one displaying weirdo behavior?
Why could you just not make your point without adding that sassy shyt at the end of it?
Yea, but it's just like 2k. There is a pool of retread coaches just sitting around to be an assistant or HC. You can even pick out a recently retired player to lead the team.
Somebody has to give Sam Cassell an opportunity this year though.
I think Matt Ishbia made some terrible mistakes obviously with the Suns but I like what he said about Stephen A.
He actually should've went harder on his bytch
ass and embarrassed him
Any time Stephen A says some hot take dumb shyt, whoever he is talking about should cook him into response to the media
Just cook his bytch ass and make him look stupid
He actually should've went harder on his bytch
ass and embarrassed him
Any time Stephen A says some hot take dumb shyt, whoever he is talking about should cook him into response to the media
Just cook his bytch ass and make him look stupid
