The Phoenix Suns have fired coach Mike Budenholzer. Phoenix is now paying three coaches and don’t have one

[Primetime]

No matter how ppl want to distribute the blame it's a bad look for everyone involved. There's really no excuses. The team's foundation was built on CP3, Booker, and Ayton, surrounded by 3/d guys (Bridges, Cam, Crowder, etc.,). #6 offense and #7 defense the year they went to the Finals. Mind you, they weren't even a top 4 team that year (BK, LAC, LAL, MIL >>>*) but injuries are a part of the game.

However, since then, the team has morphed so many times but got worse defensively each new iteration; this season they were #28. Always felt Booker was getting some unearned praise/elevation for their Finals run and benefiting from CP3 running the show, but at this point he'd probably benefit from a fresh start elsewhere. Away from anymore aging and/or injury-prone stars.

 

[MikelArteta]

No matter how ppl want to distribute the blame it's a bad look for everyone involved. There's really no excuses. The team's foundation was built on CP3, Booker, and Ayton, surrounded by 3/d guys (Bridges, Cam, Crowder, etc.,). #6 offense and #7 defense the year they went to the Finals. Mind you, they weren't even a top 4 team that year (BK, LAC, LAL, MIL >>>*) but injuries are a part of the game.

However, since then, the team has morphed so many times but got worse defensively each new iteration; this season they were #28. Always felt Booker was getting some unearned praise/elevation for their Finals run and benefiting from CP3 running the show, but at this point he'd probably benefit from a fresh start elsewhere. Away from anymore aging and/or injury-prone stars.

Devin Booker been in the league for like ten years. Had just first season above .500 when Chris Paul came. And as soon as kd went down suns bottomed out

Dude is a fraud "superstar". Light skin Mitch Richmond in Sacramento with a green light

 

[Joe Sixpack]

Devin Booker been in the league for like ten years. Had just first season above .500 when Chris Paul came. And as soon as kd went down suns bottomed out

Dude is a fraud "superstar". Light skin Mitch Richmond in Sacramento with a green light

1st of all, watch ya mouf with the Mitch Richmomd disrespect word to muva

Mitch was a Power guard who was nasty as hell but got traded to the Kings cause of stupid ass Don Nelson thinking Billy Owens was Magic Johnson. Then he got traded to the fukkin Wizards

Watch ya mouf

 

[Everythingg]

Loud =/=leadership. Spurs org and DRobs leadership amounted to yearly chokejobs before Duncan arrived. Duncan allowed Pop to be Pop. He took his shyt which made other players have to fall in line. He led by example and with his words when needed. He sacrificed his numbers and accolades for the good of the team.

You mean David Robinson, the MVP winning Olympic gold medalist that won 60 games 2 years before TD got to the NBA? That was on the Spurs team that finished either 1st or 2nd in the western conference EVERY year from 1990-96?

Pretending that Duncan came in and led them takes a torn labrum amount of reaching when all he had to do is come in and hoop. Kawhi is in that boat. TD is in that boat. Kareem is in that boat. Put them in situations where they don't have the backing of vets and structured organisations and they face the same problems you say KD face. Because they're not the personality types to corral the team under the leadership. They just go out and play and hope that galvanises everyone else.. .

That is in no way comparable to a guy that has been outwardly unhappy in 3 straight spots that were all of his choosing or shytting on former teammates from burner accounts. Duncan never needed a pep talk about how Jordan played within an offense in the middle of a series that his team trailed and ultimately faced elimination in because he was pouting about isos and resisting the only offense he ever won anything within (that also won a couple times without him and actually ran him out of OKC in embarrassing fashion).

So because KD's unhappy with the results (losing) it means he's a bad leader? And pep talk? You know that Kobe needed a "pep talk" to play within the triangle offense right? Same thing with MJ? You really just grasping at straws to push a narrative.

You want an example of a bad leader than look at Charles Barkley. While his teammates were working to get in shape, him as the best player would be half assin it on the sideline eating Big Macs blowing them.. THATS bad leadership. KD, is a "lead by example" leader just like players Kawhi, Duncan, and Kareem were.

 

[FTBS]

You mean David Robinson, the MVP winning Olympic gold medalist that won 60 games 2 years before TD got to the NBA? That was on the Spurs team that finished either 1st or 2nd in the western conference EVERY year from 1990-96?

Pretending that Duncan came in and led them takes a torn labrum amount of reaching when all he had to do is come in and hoop. Kawhi is in that boat. TD is in that boat. Kareem is in that boat. Put them in situations where they don't have the backing of vets and structured organisations and they face the same problems you say KD face. Because they're not the personality types to corral the team under the leadership. They just go out and play and hope that galvanises everyone else.. .


So because KD's unhappy with the results (losing) it means he's a bad leader? And pep talk? You know that Kobe needed a "pep talk" to play within the triangle offense right? Same thing with MJ? You really just grasping at straws to push a narrative.

You want an example of a bad leader than look at Charles Barkley. While his teammates were working to get in shape, him as the best player would be half assin it on the sideline eating Big Macs blowing them.. THATS bad leadership. KD, is a "lead by example" leader just like players Kawhi, Duncan, and Kareem were.

How many chips before Tim? shyt...how many Finals? That orgs championship pedigree and culture started with Tim. You dont do what the Spurs did over the time they did it with the various shifts made without Tim's leadership. Again, just because a nikka aint loud and performing doesnt mean he isnt leading.

KD chose to leave an org with vets where all he had to do was hoop ie not lead and that is the only situation he has ever won in. KD keeps ending up unhappy in situations he is putting himself in. You create multiple situations that go bad and you are upset and ready to bounce each time...even the situation where you aint have to lead and almost 3peated? Yeah thats a poor reflection on your leadership.

 

[Joe Sixpack]

You mean David Robinson, the MVP winning Olympic gold medalist that won 60 games 2 years before TD got to the NBA? That was on the Spurs team that finished either 1st or 2nd in the western conference EVERY year from 1990-96?

Pretending that Duncan came in and led them takes a torn labrum amount of reaching when all he had to do is come in and hoop. Kawhi is in that boat. TD is in that boat. Kareem is in that boat. Put them in situations where they don't have the backing of vets and structured organisations and they face the same problems you say KD face. Because they're not the personality types to corral the team under the leadership. They just go out and play and hope that galvanises everyone else.. .


So because KD's unhappy with the results (losing) it means he's a bad leader? And pep talk? You know that Kobe needed a "pep talk" to play within the triangle offense right? Same thing with MJ? You really just grasping at straws to push a narrative.

You want an example of a bad leader than look at Charles Barkley. While his teammates were working to get in shape, him as the best player would be half assin it on the sideline eating Big Macs blowing them.. THATS bad leadership. KD, is a "lead by example" leader just like players Kawhi, Duncan, and Kareem were.

Wow this guy sucks in every one of his posts

The Spurs were winning games and having nice 55 win seasons and getting bounced in the playoffs

It was every year until Tim Duncan got there

You smoke too much weed your brain is cooked

 

[MoshpitMazi]

I'm looking at KD and Beal real funny ngl.

 

[Everythingg]

How many chips before Tim? shyt...how many Finals? That orgs championship pedigree and culture started with Tim. You dont do what the Spurs did over the time they did it with the various shifts made without Tim's leadership. Again, just because a nikka aint loud and performing doesnt mean he isnt leading.

You still can't put the difference between Tim Duncan's and KD's leadership into words? Besides TD coming in and playing well, can you put into words how KD failed in doing what TD did when it comes to LEADING?

KD chose to leave an org with vets where all he had to do was hoop ie not lead and that is the only situation he has ever won in. KD keeps ending up unhappy in situations he is putting himself in. You create multiple situations that go bad and you are upset and ready to bounce each time...even the situation where you aint have to lead and almost 3peated? Yeah thats a poor reflection on your leadership.

Again being unhappy with losing doesn't make someone a bad leader. Going to a team and not winning a championship also doesn't make someone a bad leader. I gave examples of what exactly made Barkley a bad leader while you can't seem to do the same with KD beyond grasping at straws like him needing the same "pep talks" Kobe and MJ needed

Wow this guy sucks in every one of his posts

The Spurs were winning games and having nice 55 win seasons and getting bounced in the playoffs

It was every year until Tim Duncan got there

You smoke too much weed your brain is cooked

You're only this negative to me because you're (overly)emotionally tied to Lebron and know I don't like him. Most of you "grown man fanboy of other men" fans are pathetic


But yea, the Spurs were a team that knew how to win before Tim Duncan. Him being the player to take them over the top doesn't override the structure/vets that were already in place that made it to where all he had to worry about was playing.

Duncan on the the Thunder with Russell Westbrook (who would think he's just as good if not better than TD) and you dont see the same team success. They'd have to have someone (from the outside) putting pressure on Westbrook to either accept being a B player to his A, or down with trading him altogether because TD (like KD) doesn't have the personality to corral Westbrook. That would have been Pop that had to do that.

But that's basketball talk. You're only here to defend the namesake of a a "aint no party like a Diddy party" lookin ahh nikka

 

[Regular_P]

I'm mad Vogel got hoed two straight jobs. I hope a stable team hires him for next season.

 

[Joe Sixpack]

You still can't put the difference between Tim Duncan's and KD's leadership into words? Besides TD coming in and playing well, can you put into words how KD failed in doing what TD did when it comes to LEADING?



Again being unhappy with losing doesn't make someone a bad leader. Going to a team and not winning a championship also doesn't make someone a bad leader. I gave examples of what exactly made Barkley a bad leader while you can't seem to do the same with KD beyond grasping at straws like him needing the same "pep talks" Kobe and MJ needed



You're only this negative to me because you're (overly)emotionally tied to Lebron and know I don't like him. Most of you "grown man fanboy of other men" fans are pathetic


But yea, the Spurs were a team that knew how to win before Tim Duncan. Him being the player to take them over the top doesn't override the structure/vets that were already in place that made it to where all he had to worry about was playing.

Duncan on the the Thunder with Russell Westbrook (who would think he's just as good if not better than TD) and you dont see the same team success. They'd have to have someone (from the outside) putting pressure on Westbrook to either accept being a B player to his A, or down with trading him altogether because TD (like KD) doesn't have the personality to corral Westbrook. That would have been Pop that had to do that.

But that's basketball talk. You're only here to defend the namesake of a a "aint no party like a Diddy party" lookin ahh nikka

I go at you because you often come across as a nikka on 125th sellin oils and books

 

[Rekkapryde]

3 coaches in 3 years...Why would any coach even think of taking this job.

 

[Rekkapryde]

I go at you because you often come across as a nikka on 125th sellin oils and books

 

[PoorAndDangerous]

Being a fired coach must be the GOAT. I’m sure it feels bad personally when that’s your profession but shyt, you getting paid millions and don’t have to work

 

[daboywonder2002]

Might as well. Cause his bargaining chips are gone with that shytty Suns season. He's likely not getting paid 10+ by another team. Just chill and do some media commentating.

The suns were just a bad fit from the jump. I don't think anyone could win with that situation regardless of the talent. I wouldn't even put that on my resume.

 

[jwinfield]

Being a fired coach must be the GOAT. I’m sure it feels bad personally when that’s your profession but shyt, you getting paid millions and don’t have to work

At least for the Suns team, I'm sure coaches know the owner is a joke and doesn't give guys a chance to succeed.