Breh most people wouldn't last a day teaching at your typical hood public school. And if they're desperate to fill the position, that means they should be paid MORE to entice people to do it.
I said it’s not a crazy premise, didn’t say that I agree. Also ‘not underpaid’ isn’t the same as ‘overpaid’. My official stance is I think they are adequately paid, for the reasons i stated.You say anybody can be a teacher and then we wonder why the children of america are absolutely fukked
Emotion aside, using straight logic, your post makes no sense. One side of your mouth says schools are desperate to fill the position, then on the other side says they’re overpaid.
Almost as if the pay were better, schools wouldn’t be desperate to fill the position.
I said it’s not a crazy premise, didn’t say that I agree. Also ‘not underpaid’ isn’t the same as ‘overpaid’. My official stance is I think they are adequately paid, for the reasons i stated.
And as someone who works in adult education, the teachers aren’t the problem, it’s the curriculum. So if I were to fix the problem I wouldn’t allocate more money to teachers, I’d allocate it to instructional designers and curriculum experts. People of color with that expertise, informing county and state wide policies. That will have a FAR broader reach than paying teachers more.
To give a crude sports metaphor, teachers are more college QB than NFL QB. Meaning, if the system is right, yes, it is relatively easy to have a qualified applicant apply existing blueprints. The current problem is the blueprint, not underpaid teachers. When people say ‘why are we teaching abc instead of xyz’, or bemoaning state tests, that’s not the teachers’ decision
When I say desperate to fill, it’s because of high turnover rate. So don’t confuse that with lack of applicants. And if you know anything about high turnover jobs, that does not equate with higher pay. It means it’s a less than ideal job, and the people who do take it view it as a stopgap position. Why? For some of the very reasons you mentioned. And those reasons cant be fixed by pay.Breh most people wouldn't last a day teaching at your typical hood public school. And if they're desperate to fill the position, that means they should be paid MORE to entice people to do it.
Pay is often NOT the #1 motivator
There's a reason you never hear about a school principal shortage, it's because they're making a cool six figures. I agree that other issues need to be fixed, but paying people more will at least get more people to say "this job still sucks, but I'll put up with it for the pay."When I say desperate to fill, it’s because of high turnover rate. So don’t confuse that with lack of applicants. And if you know anything about high turnover jobs, that does not equate with higher pay. It means it’s a less than ideal job, and the people who do take it view it as a stopgap position. Why? For some of the very reasons you mentioned. And those reasons cant be fixed by pay.
Pay someone 50k or 100k, they still gon burnt out in a ‘hood school’ like you mentioned. So now we getting into things PHD folk study and teach: what motivates people/workers. I know I’m not the only one who’s ever watched an HR manager training work video?
The teacher problem is not going to be fixed by pay. Trust in management, feeling appreciated, feeling you’re making a difference, etc are all motivators and why many people ARE teachers for a lifetime. Fix the infrastructure and what they’re forced to teach rather than throwing money at the position…but of course, you will never hear that said publicly bc it’s politically correct to just say ‘pay teachers more’
Same issue you have with teachers is the same issue you have with cops
