The People Vs. O.J. Simpson: American Crime Story
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This show is doing a great job painting different sides of everybody. They're making the prosecution look like bumbling idiots in some of their strategies but also making Marcia Clark sympathetic and Darden look like a good dude overall. Also showing the little defense fukk ups and their drama behind the scenes while getting across how they were killing it in the courtroom.
OJ was gangsta c00n
i love how denise was like OJ would grab nicole p*ssy and say this is mine, then OJ didn't even deny it he was like what this has to do with the trial
i love how denise was like OJ would grab nicole p*ssy and say this is mine, then OJ didn't even deny it he was like what this has to do with the trial
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Which brought Ito wife into the picture and Fuhrman started to plead the 5th
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Hail the victors
I gotta watch this episode again
Fact-Checking Episode 6 of 'American Crime Story: The People v. O.J. Simpson'
Marcia
True or False: The author of the book Looks Aren't Everything, They're the Only Thing called Clark "frump incarnate."
It doesn’t look like that book actually exists, so this particular sound bite was false. But was Clark’s appearance skewered nightly on prime time TV? Definitely.
True or False: Clark and Darden swayed romantically to "That Lady."
Actually, weirdly, true. At least according to Darden. In his book In Contempt, the soulful prosecutor recounted the pair’s late nights,writing: “Usually, our evenings together didn't start until 10 P.M. or so and consisted of a few drinks after long days in court and in our offices. We'd stay up late, drinking wine.” As for the dancing, that seems to have taken place at Marcia’s house, not in the office. Darden writes about bringing his CD collection over one night (!!) and even name drops the Isley Brothers. Obviously, the press was all over it at the time.
The Trial
True or False: Clark was offended by Cochran's courtroom teasing "as a mother and as a woman," and later broke down in tears.
We looked through transcriptions and couldn’t find this particular quote. It’s probably an exaggeration. Clark also recently told theDaily Beast that she had to keep her “poker face” on in court, so no crying, and no emotional (albeit deserved) tirades against a sexist system.
True or False: Ms. Lopez shrugged on the witness stand.
There was never a shrug, but it definitely wouldn’t have been out of character. According to the New York Times in ‘95: “Some of her answers were non sequiturs, others sarcastic; many questions she brushed aside with a simple, ‘If you say so.’” You can read up more about Lopez here.
True or False: F. Lee Bailey decided to ask Fuhrman "point blank" about his use of "the most powerful word in the English language."
True. The transcriptions are almost as jarring to read as his questions must have sounded in court that day, or as they did onAmerican Crime Story this week, and not just because we were forced to read them in ALL CAPS. Bailey knew exactly what he was doing, and if the move seemed risky, it still paid off.
The Glove
True or False: Bailey brought in a size small Brooks Brothers glove to use in a jury demonstration.
True. Bailey got called out after he tried to pull a glove-related stunt—foreshadowing?—with Marcia even quipping about its meager measurements: “I guess it’s Mr. Bailey’s.” Damn! She pulled a Rubiobefore Rubio!
The Media
True or False: The LA Times claimed Cochran had "his own history" with domestic abuse.
We did some searching in the LA Times database and found the article in question. Cochran’s ex-wife Barbara Jean Berry said Cochran “physically struck, beat and inflicted severe injury” during their marriage. While it doesn’t seem there was any phone conversation between the two before the story went public, Cochran did claim that the whole thing was a play for her to get possession of their home. It looks like this is true.
True or False: Clark's estranged husband held a press conference saying her need to get home early was a lie.
Another week, another rogue press conference. There isn’t any footage of this exchange, nor was Clark’s early exit mentioned in any transcripts. But Gordon did file for sole custody, saying that his soon-to-be-ex “does not arrive home until 10 P.M. and even when she is home she is working.”
True or False: Nude photos of Clark at the beach were leaked by her first ex-husband.
We wish this could have been false, and that powerful women couldn’t be taken down so easily through lazy attacks against her private life and body, but this was completely true.
The Haircut
True or False: The stylist who gave Clark her makeover modeled the look after his work with Farrah Fawcett.
Not quite. The man responsible for her second, improved look wasAllen Edwards, a celebrity stylist who, yes, worked with Farrah Fawcett. (He was also behind the “frump” cut for Diane Keaton inAnnie Hall). But that happened before cut number two was cut number one, which we saw this week, and which was supposed to be a simple “wash and wear perm.” Cut one brought snickering, cut two brought applause.
True or False: Judge Ito joked that he didn't recognize her when she came into court that morning.
This didn’t happen according to transcriptions. But people on the trial did joke around a bit, and everyone was pretty rough on her looks, so she still might have felt some shade.
Everything Else
True or False: Daytime soaps got bumped so the networks could air full coverage of the trial.
Not only was this scheduling bump true, but the trial has actually been blamed for the death of soaps entirely. Just like the debates on whether to air some insane sports coverage or play the Bronco chase, TV heads had to figure out which drama viewers cared about more: scripted or reality. The choice they made would continue to dominate the daytime TV landscape for (at least) another twenty years.
True or False: In a radio poll asking if Clark was a "bytch or a babe," Darden voted "babe."
Like with “frump incarnate,” we don’t doubt something like this was asked, but we aren’t about to call it 100 percent fact. As for Darden calling in, we’re chalking it up to cutesy creative license.
Marcia
True or False: The author of the book Looks Aren't Everything, They're the Only Thing called Clark "frump incarnate."
It doesn’t look like that book actually exists, so this particular sound bite was false. But was Clark’s appearance skewered nightly on prime time TV? Definitely.
True or False: Clark and Darden swayed romantically to "That Lady."
Actually, weirdly, true. At least according to Darden. In his book In Contempt, the soulful prosecutor recounted the pair’s late nights,writing: “Usually, our evenings together didn't start until 10 P.M. or so and consisted of a few drinks after long days in court and in our offices. We'd stay up late, drinking wine.” As for the dancing, that seems to have taken place at Marcia’s house, not in the office. Darden writes about bringing his CD collection over one night (!!) and even name drops the Isley Brothers. Obviously, the press was all over it at the time.
The Trial
True or False: Clark was offended by Cochran's courtroom teasing "as a mother and as a woman," and later broke down in tears.
We looked through transcriptions and couldn’t find this particular quote. It’s probably an exaggeration. Clark also recently told theDaily Beast that she had to keep her “poker face” on in court, so no crying, and no emotional (albeit deserved) tirades against a sexist system.
True or False: Ms. Lopez shrugged on the witness stand.
There was never a shrug, but it definitely wouldn’t have been out of character. According to the New York Times in ‘95: “Some of her answers were non sequiturs, others sarcastic; many questions she brushed aside with a simple, ‘If you say so.’” You can read up more about Lopez here.
True or False: F. Lee Bailey decided to ask Fuhrman "point blank" about his use of "the most powerful word in the English language."
True. The transcriptions are almost as jarring to read as his questions must have sounded in court that day, or as they did onAmerican Crime Story this week, and not just because we were forced to read them in ALL CAPS. Bailey knew exactly what he was doing, and if the move seemed risky, it still paid off.
The Glove
True or False: Bailey brought in a size small Brooks Brothers glove to use in a jury demonstration.
True. Bailey got called out after he tried to pull a glove-related stunt—foreshadowing?—with Marcia even quipping about its meager measurements: “I guess it’s Mr. Bailey’s.” Damn! She pulled a Rubiobefore Rubio!
The Media
True or False: The LA Times claimed Cochran had "his own history" with domestic abuse.
We did some searching in the LA Times database and found the article in question. Cochran’s ex-wife Barbara Jean Berry said Cochran “physically struck, beat and inflicted severe injury” during their marriage. While it doesn’t seem there was any phone conversation between the two before the story went public, Cochran did claim that the whole thing was a play for her to get possession of their home. It looks like this is true.
True or False: Clark's estranged husband held a press conference saying her need to get home early was a lie.
Another week, another rogue press conference. There isn’t any footage of this exchange, nor was Clark’s early exit mentioned in any transcripts. But Gordon did file for sole custody, saying that his soon-to-be-ex “does not arrive home until 10 P.M. and even when she is home she is working.”
True or False: Nude photos of Clark at the beach were leaked by her first ex-husband.
We wish this could have been false, and that powerful women couldn’t be taken down so easily through lazy attacks against her private life and body, but this was completely true.
The Haircut
True or False: The stylist who gave Clark her makeover modeled the look after his work with Farrah Fawcett.
Not quite. The man responsible for her second, improved look wasAllen Edwards, a celebrity stylist who, yes, worked with Farrah Fawcett. (He was also behind the “frump” cut for Diane Keaton inAnnie Hall). But that happened before cut number two was cut number one, which we saw this week, and which was supposed to be a simple “wash and wear perm.” Cut one brought snickering, cut two brought applause.
True or False: Judge Ito joked that he didn't recognize her when she came into court that morning.
This didn’t happen according to transcriptions. But people on the trial did joke around a bit, and everyone was pretty rough on her looks, so she still might have felt some shade.
Everything Else
True or False: Daytime soaps got bumped so the networks could air full coverage of the trial.
Not only was this scheduling bump true, but the trial has actually been blamed for the death of soaps entirely. Just like the debates on whether to air some insane sports coverage or play the Bronco chase, TV heads had to figure out which drama viewers cared about more: scripted or reality. The choice they made would continue to dominate the daytime TV landscape for (at least) another twenty years.
True or False: In a radio poll asking if Clark was a "bytch or a babe," Darden voted "babe."
Like with “frump incarnate,” we don’t doubt something like this was asked, but we aren’t about to call it 100 percent fact. As for Darden calling in, we’re chalking it up to cutesy creative license.
Yep. I think F. Lee Bailey is going to really shine when they bring Furhman back to the stand. That's when he lights Furhman on fire.
Thought he allegedly gave Rob a bag that he burned for OJ
What did she have to do with anything?