The only New York athletes with any heart are Jalen Brunson and Francisco Lindor

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I do still believe clutch is a myth.
With enough of a sample size I would expect Aaron Judge to perform closer to his career averages.

Just like Bonds performed a lot better after 2000 than he did before.

Just like Arod performed better in 2009 than before.

Even if you look at Derek Jeter's postseason numbers (seemingly the poster child for playoff success), they're nearly identical to his regular season averages.

That said...
1. I'm not sure Aaron Judge will have many more postseason ABs to drive his numbers back up.

2. I don't have the luxury of waiting for it to even happen. The Yankees are 1 game away from elimination and not very likely to be all that great in the years to come.

What's frustrating to see with Judge isn't so much that he's not performing. It's that he's completely lost at the plate. If he was hitting lineouts to Short, it would suck but you could at least see that the process is sound. But he's not even having competitive at bats. There are no instances of him spoiling tough pitches like Soto. And it's not like Judge has the same burden that Arod had...where he was an outsider coming to a winning team and had drama with the Yankees star player in Jeter. You could understand the pressure Arod was under even if you didn't give a shyt and wanted results. But Judge's circumstances are significantly easier.
A Rod was on sports talk radio today saying he had to change in order to do what he did in 2009. So that to me denotes pressure situations call for a different demeanor. Some figure it out instinctively right away while others never do and everyone is somewhere on that scale.
The way you talk about 'pressure' in this post and how different players handle it kinda acknowledge this point. A high pressure situation can change performance to perform. Meaning some people raise their play and are 'clutch'.
 

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I do still believe clutch is a myth.
With enough of a sample size I would expect Aaron Judge to perform closer to his career averages.

Just like Bonds performed a lot better after 2000 than he did before.

Just like Arod performed better in 2009 than before.

Even if you look at Derek Jeter's postseason numbers (seemingly the poster child for playoff success), they're nearly identical to his regular season averages.

That said...
1. I'm not sure Aaron Judge will have many more postseason ABs to drive his numbers back up.

2. I don't have the luxury of waiting for it to even happen. The Yankees are 1 game away from elimination and not very likely to be all that great in the years to come.

What's frustrating to see with Judge isn't so much that he's not performing. It's that he's completely lost at the plate. If he was hitting lineouts to Short, it would suck but you could at least see that the process is sound. But he's not even having competitive at bats. There are no instances of him spoiling tough pitches like Soto. And it's not like Judge has the same burden that Arod had...where he was an outsider coming to a winning team and had drama with the Yankees star player in Jeter. You could understand the pressure Arod was under even if you didn't give a shyt and wanted results. But Judge's circumstances are significantly easier.

A Rod was on sports talk radio today saying he had to change in order to do what he did in 2009. So that to me denotes pressure situations call for a different demeanor. Some figure it out instinctively right away while others never do and everyone is somewhere on that scale.
The way you talk about 'pressure' in this post and how different players handle it kinda acknowledge this point. A high pressure situation can change performance to perform. Meaning some people raise their play and are 'clutch'.
Some guys 100% are prone to choking under the pressure. I want you guys to take a look at these two statlines:






.194/.319/.456 with 36 homers, 78 RBI’s, and 223 strikeouts per 162 games





.196/.303/.430 with 43 homers, 90 RBI’s, & 249 strikeouts per 162 games









One is Aaron Judge’s playoff numbers and the other is Joey Gallo’s career averages. Judge’s batting average drops roughly 100 points and so does his OBP while his slugging percentage drops between 150 and 170 points. He’s 5th all time in postseason strikeouts and has the highest strikeout rate in playoff history. There are 52 other guys with at least 250 plate appearances in postseason history and only one besides him hits below .200 in the playoffs. Look at his swing in the playoffs. Every year he chases the home run on every pitch he faces because he thinks he needs to put every pitch he faces into the seats.
 

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Some guys 100% are prone to choking under the pressure. I want you guys to take a look at these two statlines:






.194/.319/.456 with 36 homers, 78 RBI’s, and 223 strikeouts per 162 games





.196/.303/.430 with 43 homers, 90 RBI’s, & 249 strikeouts per 162 games









One is Aaron Judge’s playoff numbers and the other is Joey Gallo’s career averages. Judge’s batting average drops roughly 100 points and so does his OBP while his slugging percentage drops between 150 and 170 points. He’s 5th all time in postseason strikeouts and has the highest strikeout rate in playoff history. There are 52 other guys with at least 250 plate appearances in postseason history and only one besides him hits below .200 in the playoffs. Look at his swing in the playoffs. Every year he chases the home run on every pitch he faces because he thinks he needs to put every pitch he faces into the seats.
Yeah, if some are prone to choking under pressure the opposite is true as well.
 

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A Rod was on sports talk radio today saying he had to change in order to do what he did in 2009. So that to me denotes pressure situations call for a different demeanor. Some figure it out instinctively right away while others never do and everyone is somewhere on that scale.
The way you talk about 'pressure' in this post and how different players handle it kinda acknowledge this point. A high pressure situation can change performance to perform. Meaning some people raise their play and are 'clutch'.
I don't think you can find a single player who performs significantly better in the playoffs than his regular season numbers AND has enough of a sample size where it's credible.

So no, in that sense nobody is "clutch".
 

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I don't think you can find a single player who performs significantly better in the playoffs than his regular season numbers AND has enough of a sample size where it's credible.

So no, in that sense nobody is "clutch".

Kike Hernandez hits .40+ batting average wise and his HR per plate appearance is double in the playoffs than it is in the regular season. He has over 200 playoff ABs.
 

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Kike Hernandez hits .40+ batting average wise and his HR per plate appearance is double in the playoffs than it is in the regular season. He has over 200 playoff ABs.
200 ABs is roughly 6 weeks of a baseball season.
 

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What's the minimum amount of playoff ABs then?
Well let's put it this way....

If a guy had one great season, would you consider him a great player?

Probably not, right? Anyone can be good or bad for 1 season. And that's something like 700 ABs.

So you would need...at the very MINIMUM, that many playoff ABs to even begin to talk about it.

And almost nobody is going to get that opportunity because playoff appearances are hard to come by.

That said, if you look at the players with the most playoff ABs in history...let's say you took the top 5 or top 10....I would bet all of them perform the same or slightly worse than their regular season averages.
 
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