The Offiial "Black Mass" Thread (Johnny Depp as Whitey Bulger)

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It was dope alot of good actors in it and johnny depp killed it. I already saw the documentary and read about the case before the movie even started so I knew the whole thing. I think that kind of ruined it a little for me but I would still give it 8.5/10. They didn't even cover him being on the run at all which they should of. He was like the number 1 most wanted on FBI'S list for 15 years.

I don't think they have much material on his life on the run. From the FBI's perspective, all they have probably is a bunch of dead end leads. I think if they briefly show Whitey hanging around Cali, blending in, it would have been cool. Other than that, it's not important to the main story.

How was Meth Damon aka Landry

They all did a solid job, honestly. I don't have one complaint.
 

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Good film. Nothing more, nothing less. Meth Damon did his thing. I thought this retarted looking niguh was Matt Damon at first. Joel Edgerton. To quote :sas2: "Joel is big time". Dude was never on my radar. But to see his performance in "the Gift". And then see him in this film. I'm a fan. I wanna see him in more lead in big time films. In some sense, it feels like this movie is actually about him. Johnny Depp. The hype is real. Great performance. Even though his character is crazy. I still think they could have shown even more that.

Now, with all the good things, it has some flaws. I felt like I had when I watched Interstellar. 1st hour was eh to :russell:. I was checking my phone and everything. I get that they have to build the story which I have no problem it. But it just wasn't interesting. Then it hit a stride and it finished strong until the end. Could certain actors like Joel get a supporting actor nominee? It's possible but as a film this aint a classic or nothing. But like Interstellar, it's good.
 

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thought it was horrible, felt like a complete rip-off of the Departed... it looked bad, acting was bad, drama was boring, pointless characters that didn't do anything, no tension, no suspense

can't think of anything positive to say about it, just awful
 

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thought it was horrible, felt like a complete rip-off of the Departed... it looked bad, acting was bad, drama was boring, pointless characters that didn't do anything, no tension, no suspense

can't think of anything positive to say about it, just awful

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Complete rip-off of The Departed? You do realize that this is a true story, don't you? The characters and story in The Departed were influenced by this story. Black Mass is the actual story of Whitey Bulger. It's based off the book by the same name which was published in 2000.
 
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Complete rip-off of The Departed? You do realize that this is a true story, don't you? The characters and story in The Departed were influenced by this story. Black Mass is the actual story of Whitey Bulger. It's based off the book by the same name which was published in 2000.[/QUOTE

of course, I was referring to the whole style, look and feel of the movie being just like the Departed... even some of the music choices, they even have a Matt Damon look alike
 

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I was less then compelled by this movie, and less compelled to even write about it, which is a fair assessment of my overall feelings. A movie is brilliant, I am rushing to write, a movie is awful, the same. 'Black Mass' inspired very little from me but a sense of a missed opportunity. Depp's performance is more then good, great in some moments, when the script and director let the movie take a darker approach to the character...less so when we see him in weary scenes discussing the death of his child. All the performances are strong, yet none very compelling. The movie feels disjointed, incomplete, unable to really get it's footing. The direction is competent, slightly more so in some scenes. But, stock shots of Boston's harbor and hacky quick editing in the Miami nightclub scenes to little to distinguish 'Black Mass' from a dozen plus B list gangster movies from the last two decades.

Edgerton has a performance equal to Depp, yet the script and directing didn't really get much out of his character. Very surface level and superficial. Jesse Plemons as Kevin 'Two' Weeks was great, yet seemed out of place and forgotten despite promising in the films opening to tell the whole story. He doesn't. He just sort of introduces Bulger, and fades into the background. This happens frequently. The movie jumps around, never settling on any particular character or narrative, and in the end, the viewer is left less the moved, or even entertained, a sort of apathetic shrug of 2 hours that weren't entirely bad.

Steve Flemmi is given an oddly sympathetic portrayal, (for anyone who read 'Black Mass') as is Connolly, as if the movie needed to make up for moments of Bulger worship, and homages to 'Goodfellas' with stylish montages of shoe and clothing collections, and domestic/religious Bulger. We never get a sense of what made him such a ruthless and effective leader, able to rake in millions of dollars, and escape justice. We understand why it happened, but not how, and not who the man was. Benedict Cumberbatch as William Bulger is great, and another highlight in an uneven and unfocused movie. The end is reduced to typical gangster movie cut outs of the sentences handed down to the players, with little to reflect on, which is sad, considering the material, explosive, brutal, sickening, indicting as it is, of not just James Bulger, but the FBI, and the unrelenting ugliness of human nature. A missed chance to make a greta movie.
 

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It was OK. Felt a bit long and blah at times. Depp was good but not great other than the steak scene from the teaser and its aftermath (no dre). I didn't walk out thinking acting oscar.

I think were safe for now Leo stans, but we may need to have an emergency meeting after Macbeth :sadcam:

It also felt more like edgertons movie (no furiosa) than whiteys. Im gonna peep the whitey documentary on netflix to learn more about him.

Hell of a cast though. The sleazy white "that guy" all-stars. Didnt know cumberbatch and bacon were in it either .

Im leaning towards a light 7/10. Not mad i saw it though
 
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I thought it was a good movie, the acting was good, Depp was great. My only real issue is it seemed like it was rushed in certain points they could have elaborated on and just used the informants telling the story to gloss over those parts. The things they left out could have turned the movie from good to great.
 

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It was...OK. The story should've led to a great film tho, instead of just another gangster film.

The documentary from last year certainly colors my reaction, but they left out a ton of interesting shyt.

The "was he/wasn't he" add to whether Whitey was an informant is the most fascinating part of the story. He barely put up a fight when on trial for MURDER, and cared a lot more about the implication that he was a rat. But the film skipped over all of that.
 

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It was dope alot of good actors in it and johnny depp killed it. I already saw the documentary and read about the case before the movie even started so I knew the whole thing. I think that kind of ruined it a little for me but I would still give it 8.5/10. They didn't even cover him being on the run at all which they should of. He was like the number 1 most wanted on FBI'S list for 15 years.

You nailed it for me. Maybe seeing the doc killed it. You're right, I wanted to see him on the run. At least 10 minutes of him on the run and in court would be justifiable.

I give the flick a 7.5/10. Honestly, I think the main thing that killed it for me was they spent too much time with the FBI cats. I understand they were an integral part to the story,, but they should've done it like how Bale was portrayed in Public Enemies, not too much but not too little.

Depp did a great job. That scene where
he went upstairs to check on the agent's wife :ohhh::scust::wow:. The whole theatre was silent. Amazing acting.

I liked how they did voiceovers of the rats and showed them in present. What happened to his wife? lol

One question. In the documentary there is a lot of evidence that the FBI fabricated he's a rat, but in the movie they 100% made him look like a rat. So which one is it?
 

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You nailed it for me. Maybe seeing the doc killed it. You're right, I wanted to see him on the run. At least 10 minutes of him on the run and in court would be justifiable.

I give the flick a 7.5/10. Honestly, I think the main thing that killed it for me was they spent too much time with the FBI cats. I understand they were an integral part to the story,, but they should've done it like how Bale was portrayed in Public Enemies, not too much but not too little.

Depp did a great job. That scene where
he went upstairs to check on the agent's wife :ohhh::scust::wow:. The whole theatre was silent. Amazing acting.

I liked how they did voiceovers of the rats and showed them in present. What happened to his wife? lol

One question. In the documentary there is a lot of evidence that the FBI fabricated he's a rat, but in the movie they 100% made him look like a rat. So which one is it?
name of the documentary?
 

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You know Ben Affleck was going to direct a film on Whitey Bulger, and Matt Damon was gonna star as Bulger. But this Depp project beat them to the punch.

What they should do, is turn their film project into an 8 episode HBO mini-series. That way they could go way more in depth than the movie did. Have Affleck direct an episode or 2 and have Damon play Bulger. Hell, they could have Cary Fukunaga direct it.
 

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Thinking a little more about this today, and I'm even less impressed by the film.

Did it ever show Bulger doing illegal shyt, other than murder people? There was a lot of talk about how he became a kingpin, etc....But it was lip service. Guess they had top make room for a few more scenes of gunplay

Bleh, such a missed opportunity.
 
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