The official ‘Tory Lanez vs Megan Thee Stallion’ trial thread.

[Gloxina]

Compare Megan/Tory to Chris Brown/Rihanna, there’s levels to this & CB/Rihanna were at least 2 levels above those other 2. Plus they are 2 waaaaaaaay different situations (and even outcomes)

OF COURSE



The point is Meg is in the JayZ camp. Regardless of the situation he is going to make sure she’s good.

Her story will appeal to mainstream audiences and will be used to garner support and more (deserved) sympathy.


My ultimate point is you have to look at this outside of the lens of hiphop culture. Things may be shaky in these spaces, but in terms of mainstream- she’s going to be fine.

 

[Van Cleef]

This is patently false. Meg had and still has a nice little hate train going.

 

[FluffyEyes]

Nope. Not even close to delusion. I saw the shift in real time. It actually started BEFORE the Tory situation with her fighting with her label and then the rumored issues with Nicki ramped it up quite nicely.

The Tory situation just threw a lit match on gasoline.

 

[5n0man]

Nope. Not even close to delusion. I saw the shift in real time. It actually started BEFORE the Tory situation with her fighting with her label and then the rumored issues with Nicki ramped it up quite nicely.

The Tory situation just threw a lit match on gasoline.

Nah, i remember Megan getting more support than hate when she was fighting with her label. Even in the immediate aftermath of the shooting she was getting mostly support while everyone was shytting on Tory. The hate train started when she got up on mainstream platforms and said she was shot because black men don't protect black women.

That's when everyone started treating the situation like some weird ass gender war, sensitive brehs felt personally attacked and started doing mental gymnastics to convince themselves of some anti black male agenda.

 

[FluffyEyes]

Nah, i remember Megan getting more support than hate when she was fighting with her label.

I disagree. Like yes she had support but I remember seeing certain comments and being like "Why is this particular label situation getting so much vitriol??". I remember it well because Uzi had had his issues with his label as well and it didn't generate the same heat. Both were doing business with RocNation too. And the same audience that was giving her heat for that were same ones who jumped on Tory's side later on. The Shade Room/IG Blog audience. I also ppl underestimate how integral the Barbz were in this hate train. Once it looked like Meg and Nicki weren't cool they did a lot of groundwork in fanning flames of any miscommunication or petty slight that involved Megan.

Even in the immediate aftermath of the shooting she was getting mostly support while everyone was shytting on Tory. The hate train started when she got up on mainstream platforms and said she was shot because black men don't protect black women.

Oh I wholeheartedly disagree even more with this. Meg was being harassed consistently before she ever said Tory shot her. Ppl erase that 2-3 week period where Meg was mostly quiet but stuff kept coming out on the blogs. When Meg finally got on camera she alluded to ppl spreading rumors in the industry and that was before she outright said he did it. That's how I know she likely would've deaded the entire situation if Tory wasn't trying to be a stunt queen.

That's when everyone started treating the situation like some weird ass gender war, sensitive brehs felt personally attacked and started doing mental gymnastics to convince themselves of some anti black male agenda.

This is where I can agree. Ppl treated it as an extension of this BW vs BM thing that's been popping off on the internet this last decade.

 

[Buzzed Lightyear]

Meg is CHILLIN.


She has mainstream media on her side.


She’s Gucci at this point.
They’ll shove her down our throats when they are good and ready.


You remember RiRi’s interviews after the Chris Brown incident? Meg will have the same moment.

Please believe Roc Nation is going to use this to propel her and cement her in the mainstream.


And don’t get me wrong- she’s a talented woman, and she was definitely the victim in this situation.

But if you don’t think JayZ is going to make sure this shyt goes exactly the way things went for RiRi you’re tripping.

She’s the next victim turned survivor. This is a real situation, but if you don’t think Roc Nation is about to create a serious narrative around this…

Tory’s dad was calling Jay’s name? He ain’t seen NOTHING yet lmao

The one thing I will say is that if you’re truly in their camp, you’re protected. All Meg needs to do is follow instructions and she’ll be fine.

She can't even walk a straight line after a certain time of the day so I don't see that being an easy task.

 

[O.T.I.S.]

Meg is totally out the picture and I don’t think she will ever be the same…

Roc nation trying they hardest to find a way for her to get back in

I think she just trying to stay as lowkey as possible until the backlash blows over and people forget that she basically lied her ass off and got exposed for being an industry thot with a whole nikka..

But it will never be forgotten.

Tory gonna be sitting in a cell all because he didn’t stay at the billionaire chicks house who was feeling him.. that’s gonna be some tough shyt to think about everyday

 

[WMG the 2nd]

I think she just trying to stay as lowkey as possible until the backlash blows over and people forget that she basically lied her ass off and got exposed for being an industry thot with a whole nikka..

But it will never be forgotten.

Tory gonna be sitting in a cell all because he didn’t stay at the billionaire chicks house who was feeling him.. that’s gonna be some tough shyt to think about everyday

Nah it’s because he shot Meg Thee Stallion lol
He could have done a billion other things and he chose shooting someone

 

[Rembrandt]

All that proof Megan posted early on that she didn’t have to and instead of listening, people became Twitter lawyers, forensic scientists, and doctors just cause they hated her music And those same people pretended like they were day one Tory fans despite not even knowing his music before Megan was in the picture

nikkas were delusional claiming Lanez was secretly one of the best artists in the game too

 

[O.T.I.S.]

Nah it’s because he shot Meg Thee Stallion lol
He could have done a billion other things and he chose shooting someone

Then why is she the one hiding?

If it was really like that and really a “victory”, she would’ve been yassss queenin it up everywhere, right? Like she was before this shyt even got to trial

That nikka didn’t shoot her. She was probably too drunk to remember who did what. Got up their and lied about fukking dude, lied about chasing dude, lied about beating up her friend, lied about getting kicked out of Kylie Jenners house, etc…


You know what I do know though, is if you catch a person in a lie multiple times then chances are they’re lying about much more than just what you found out.

 

[Coco Loco]

Nope. Not even close to delusion. I saw the shift in real time. It actually started BEFORE the Tory situation with her fighting with her label and then the rumored issues with Nicki ramped it up quite nicely.

The Tory situation just threw a lit match on gasoline.

All of this. When you ask them why they don’t like her it’s usually some weird response like she’s too cocky. You mean like most rappers?



It’s so wild to me. It’s one thing to not like her music but not like her, what has she done?

 

[JamesJabdi]

OF COURSE



The point is Meg is in the JayZ camp. Regardless of the situation he is going to make sure she’s good.

Her story will appeal to mainstream audiences and will be used to garner support and more (deserved) sympathy.


My ultimate point is you have to look at this outside of the lens of hiphop culture. Things may be shaky in these spaces, but in terms of mainstream- she’s going to be fine.

What is that supposed to mean? Memphis Bleek is in Jay Z's camp too....did he become the new Jay as promised?

 

[JamesJabdi]

The only thing this debacle did was give both of them a boost. Shyt been dry since then though.

Megan career is going the same way as Da Baby's...They both have a repetitive flows, which gets boring quick.

 

[Elim Garak]

I'm really curious about what type of time he gets. I'm guessing they throw the book at him but who knows.

 

[⠝⠕⠏⠑]

All of this. When you ask them why they don’t like her it’s usually some weird response like she’s too cocky. You mean like most rappers?



It’s so wild to me. It’s one thing to not like her music but not like her, what has she done?

I still can’t believe everything in her music was true. She literally rapped about dudes you support switching up on you and acting like clowns, and bytches stabbing you in the back.

She tried to protect this dude. Didn’t even press charges and he let some woman hating clowns online gas him into refusing a plea bargain and giving us the clown show case of the year.

Read those lyrics and tell me she wasn’t talking about this situation.

Why you wanna do the bad bytch wrong? (Huh?)
'Bout to make this every bad bytch song (ayy)
Don't you hate when you hold a nikka down
Then he switch up on you, turn out to be a clown? Ayy
Look (hey), I ain't in my feelings with it (in my feelings)
Turn around, poke it out, bytch, get it, get it (get it, get it)
Turn up on 'em, make 'em kill the noise
We ain't goin' back and forth with the lil boys

Shh, cut the noise
I ain't goin' back and forth with these lil boys (lil boys)
I'm a February baby, I'm a big flirt (big flirt)
I gotta give a nikka space when his feelings hurt (hey, hey)
Ayy, look, cut the shyt
I ain't goin' back and forth with a broke bytch (broke bytch)
Jawbreaker, I ain't fukkin' with the sucker shyt (yeah)
If I cut her off, then I mean it and it's fukk a bytch

One, never let a nikka see you sweat (never
Two, never let these nikkas come between a check (yeah)
Three, never let a nikka turn you 'gainst me (hey)
'Cause the dikk come and go, but I'm ridin' past E (ridin' past E)

Keep that shyt player, I don't like gettin' personal
Treat 'em like job, when I get 'em, I'm workin' 'em (workin')
nikkas love usin' instagram like a journal (yeah)
Just like my ass, nikkas talkin' in a circle (baow-baow-baow)
Why nikkas love to talk down? I don't know (I don't know)
Like I ain't keepin' all the facts in my phone
Like I ain't got the pictures of you beggin' for forgiveness (yeah)
I ain't gotta do the most, I know what the real is (I know what the real is)

Ain't the jealous type, please don't believe the hype (please)
You can't make me mad with some shyt that I'ma like (that I'ma like)
Don't mean to be intrusive, but you thinkin' you exclusive
When a party ain't a party if my bytches ain't included (ah, ah)

Look, why you wanna do the bad bytch wrong? (What?)
'Bout to make this every bad bytch song (ayy)
Don't you hate when you hold a nikka down
Then he switch up on you, turn out to be a clown? Ayy
Look, I ain't in my feelings with it (in my feelings)
Turn around, poke it out, bytch, get it, get it (get it, get it)
Turn up on 'em, make 'em kill the noise
We ain't goin' back and forth with the lil boys