The Official Tennis Thread

[NkrumahWasRight Is Wrong]

he should honestly just work on volleys and hand speed and play like krajicek and just come to the net literally every first serve and more than half of second serves

 

[what it do]

hopefully he can turn it around and make a match out of it

he should honestly just work on volleys and hand speed and play like krajicek and just come to the net literally every first serve and more than half of second serves

u know your stuff, i always wondered that about big servers from this generation wanting to serve huge and stay back

 

[NkrumahWasRight Is Wrong]

hopefully he can turn it around and make a match out of it


u know your stuff, i always wondered that about big servers from this generation wanting to serve huge and stay back

former usta #1 in my region and current coach

these big servers now are stupid. thats why i have such disdain for isner. they never have the condition to last long rallies or matches and it ends up weakening their serves later on as they get tired.

they gotta do a shyt ton of pushups consistently, and particularly lat pulldowns for core...then do nothing but leg weights and hand speed drills. shyt, even playing some different sports to work on footwork in a game sense instead of just drills. trying to out rally the world's best from the baseline is futile and minimizes their biggest strengths. plus constant practice work and hitting can have the law of diminishing returns eventually. its only really worthwhile to play practice sets against guys tailored to how a future opponent is going to play.

 

[Yapdatfool]

hopefully he can turn it around and make a match out of it


u know your stuff, i always wondered that about big servers from this generation wanting to serve huge and stay back

The problem is the type of strings, rackets, courts and baseline play they would get passed more than 70% of the time coming to the net.
It works on grass cause its naturally fast & low bouncing anyways. It's worth it if you can't hang in the back of the court though.

raonic is playin nervous and happy to be there. he needs to keep his returns out of the middle of the court cuz fed is going to keep pounding out wide and raonic cant get back for his second shot if fed hits his second cross court. raonic making it too easy

Milos isnt a good mover, add that to the clay/grass like ground and it's cause for concern. Milos best chance is to just hold serve at all times, too bad he's failed so early.

 

[Yapdatfool]

former usta #1 in my region and current coach

these big servers now are stupid. thats why i have such disdain for isner. they never have the condition to last long rallies or matches and it ends up weakening their serves later on as they get tired.

they gotta do a shyt ton of pushups consistently, and particularly lat pulldowns for core...then do nothing but leg weights and hand speed drills. shyt, even playing some different sports to work on footwork in a game sense instead of just drills. trying to out rally the world's best from the baseline is futile and minimizes their biggest strengths. plus constant practice work and hitting can have the law of diminishing returns eventually. its only really worthwhile to play practice sets against guys tailored to how a future opponent is going to play.

They are and that's not the way the game is headed. But it seems like we either make big servers or michael chang wannabes.
I think a shift to playing on clay more from an early age would help in movement and footwork.

If Delpo could stop being injured, we would get a taste of what a real tall guy can do.

 

[malbaker86]

raonic broken first game

no point even watching the rest of the set

raonic is playin nervous and happy to be there. he needs to keep his returns out of the middle of the court cuz fed is going to keep pounding out wide and raonic cant get back for his second shot if fed hits his second cross court. raonic making it too easy

Fun fact: this will be the first time since the 2009 US Open final that Nadal or Murray won't be in a grand slam final

 

[NkrumahWasRight Is Wrong]

The problem is the type of strings, rackets, courts and baseline play they would get passed more than 70% of the time coming to the net.
It works on grass cause its naturally fast & low bouncing anyways. It's worth it if you can't hang in the back of the court though.



Milos isnt a good mover, add that to the clay/grass like ground and it's cause for concern. Milos best chance is to just hold serve at all times, too bad he's failed so early.

not true necessarily. dont have to hit flat bombs every time. they could still pop one in faster with kick or slice than a normal flat serve to buy them more time to come in and still give the other player fits on a return (sometimes its easier to hit a shot against a super hard flat shot than a pretty hard shot with junk on it). or even better, they wait for a weak chip defense return, put an aggressive shot on it and come in. no reason not to.

 

[NkrumahWasRight Is Wrong]

They are and that's not the way the game is headed. But it seems like we either make big servers or michael chang wannabes.
I think a shift to playing on clay more from an early age would help in movement and footwork.

If Delpo could stop being injured, we would get a taste of what a real tall guy can do.

I agree, I co-sign Delpo. Tsonga has potential too but cant really put it together...I like Del Po more than Tsonga.

And yea, american tennis is garbage. Its because of the standardized coaching and everyone being taught the same shyt. usta and ptr certifications all basically make a coach teach the same way and very few coaches do differently or coach unique to the player nowadays. then as the levels go up, all these kids go to academies and play in tourneys against clones of each other and never really improve or get used to different styles of play.

i think a shift to clay would do wonders, and also more of a priority on doubles. doubles can help a singles game more than one would think. you have to be quicker with your hands and more precise with your shots, as well as varying them to make it work in less space (immense topspin, keeping it way out wide, small windows up the middle and alleys). there are a lot of clay and har tru courts in my area and we have one of the strongest areas in the state/region. i personally always played my best on those surfaces because i could slice the fukk out of the ball, volley and hit topspin to mix it up and keep the other player out of rhythm..while the other guy generally hit the same generic flat first serve, kick second serve, topspin groundstrokes every time

 

[Yapdatfool]

I agree, I co-sign Delpo. Tsonga has potential too but cant really put it together...I like Del Po more than Tsonga.

And yea, american tennis is garbage. Its because of the standardized coaching and everyone being taught the same shyt. usta and ptr certifications all basically make a coach teach the same way and very few coaches do differently or coach unique to the player nowadays. then as the levels go up, all these kids go to academies and play in tourneys against clones of each other and never really improve or get used to different styles of play.

i think a shift to clay would do wonders, and also more of a priority on doubles. doubles can help a singles game more than one would think. you have to be quicker with your hands and more precise with your shots, as well as varying them to make it work in less space (immense topspin, keeping it way out wide, small windows up the middle and alleys). there are a lot of clay and har tru courts in my area and we have one of the strongest areas in the state/region. i personally always played my best on those surfaces because i could slice the fukk out of the ball, volley and hit topspin to mix it up and keep the other player out of rhythm..while the other guy generally hit the same generic flat first serve, kick second serve, topspin groundstrokes every time

You are right, more variety in training and shots could help a lot.
Look at Serena and how it helped her game, her serve used to be kind of a liability, now it's a strength along with the power and variety she already has.

 

[#DatGuyWelbz]

goddamn, raonic is so ass. wish that greek that dude beat him at least him and roger could have an interesting match.

raonic = jacque villeneuve

 

[Carlos Huerta]

Fed

Very very impressive to make it to another GS final at this age. Amazing

 

[what it do]

this is cringe worthy especially with how the canadian media was hyping him up during every commercial break the past week, raonic never produces vs the top guys

 

[what it do]

that kid krygios would of done more damage in my opinion

 

[Miggs]

Da fukk did i say

Overhyped piece of shyt goes down in straight sets....

Dat ether will be if Bouchard wins tomorrow.

 

[ℒℴѵℯJay ELECTUA]

wow so its fed v joker..