The Official Sergey "Krusher" Kovalev vs Andre "S.O.G." Ward Fight Thread

[krackdagawd]

My face whenever I see this thread got new post in it

Knowing there will be estrogen in the air

 

[Road20]

perhaps Kov should do more core work for the next fight. Looked a little gassed after Ward start taking air out his tire

 

[TheNig]

perhaps Kov should do more core work for the next fight. Looked a little gassed after Ward start taking air out his tire

Funny how we seen that but boxing media hadn't said anything about it.

From the 3rd round on, Dre's work to the body was phenomenal.

 

[krackdagawd]

Funny how we seen that but boxing media hadn't said anything about it.

From the 3rd round on, Dre's work to the body was phenomenal.

3rd round was probably my favorite of the fight.

Fresh of a kd and proceed go give him that work

klansman knew he was in for a rough night after that round

 

[reservoirdogs]

CORY SPINKS GIVES TECHNICAL ANALYSIS OF WARD'S VICTORY OVER KOVALEV; EXPLAINS HOW WARD SHOWED "WHAT BOXING IS" || FIGHTHYPE.COM

"I thought it was a very, very close fight. It could have easily went the other way. Some people don't understand why Andre Ward got the victory. The reason why he got the victory, he had to go through adversity, he got dropped, and that's the way Kovalev fights. Kovalev can catch anyone early. After he got dropped and got up, from that point on, all of the rounds were questionable other than the rounds that Ward totally dominated...He came in there to do his job and he was trying to do his job, but the plan that Andre Ward had to slow him down and take something off of them punches worked to perfection. I knew going in he was a dangerous puncher, but Andre Ward is a craftsman," stated former world champion Cory Spinks, who gave his technical analysis of Andre Ward's victory over Sergey Kovalev. Check it out!

PC: What are your thoughts on the Ward-Kovalev fight?

CS: I thought it was a very, very close fight. It could have easily went the other way. Some people don't understand why Andre Ward got the victory. The reason why he got the victory, he had to go through adversity, he got dropped, and that's the way Kovalev fights. Kovalev can catch anyone early. After he got dropped and got up, from that point on, all of the rounds were questionable other than the rounds that Ward totally dominated. He caught up with this boy and people gotta understand that's why they gave this man that fight. He was in there with a big puncher, but that fight didn't go the way that big puncher wanted it to go. Andre Ward changed the total dynamics of the fight; he fought the fight that he wanted to fight. To me, he took over, especially in the second half of the fight; it was all Andre Ward. He took Kovalev's jab away from him so he couldn't set him up with the right hand. When he got caught, he was counter punching and Kovalev was getting off first, so he was already in transition of throwing that punch. So he caught Andre. He weathered the storm, came back, and to me, he started being busier. He showed exactly what boxing is, showmanship and slickness.

PC: When Ward got put down in the 2nd round, did you think it was something he had done wrong technically or an adjustment he needed to make?

CS: He started off with a game plan and stuck to it. The thing is he didn't change anything that he had already planned to do. He just made a mental mistake of timing the jab and trying to come over the jab with his own right hand and Kovalev was already coming with the two and the two got there first and he got caught. It happens, but he made adjustments to make sure that didn't happen again.

PC: As a defensive fighter yourself, I'm sure you were impressed by the fact that he never got hit with another flush right hand throughout the fight, and that was for a 10-round period.

CS: That's what I mean when I say other people that watched this fight didn't understand why he was rewarded the fight. It was a beautiful fight. I didn't get nervous or anything after he got knocked down. I'm sitting at the crib looking at the fight by myself and watched this master will his way to victory. He bit down, he didn't get away from his plan and his craft, and my hat goes off to Virgil Hunter. The relationship between a boxer and a trainer was on full display. That's what boxing is. No matter how world-class Ward is, he listens to Virgil Hunter. Virgil cursing and everything and Andre Ward sat there calmly, listened to his coach with no back talk or nothing, just, "I got you sir!" And he went out there and executed.

PC: You told me in the past that Andre Ward is your favorite active fighter. Is what you saw him do in the Kovalev fight the reason he's your favorite?

CS: Yes! That's exactly why. He showed heart, skills, and still being a gentleman. He was still a gentleman in there. He went in with a shiny suit, he got it a little bit dusty, he wiped it off and came out with it clean. He got a few stains on it, but the suit came out alright. My hat goes off to Kovalev too; very bad boy, dangerous boy. He got outclassed in that fight. He came in there to do his job and he was trying to do his job, but the plan that Andre Ward had to slow him down and take something off of them punches worked to perfection. I knew going in he was a dangerous puncher, but Andre Ward is a craftsman. You don't have too many in boxing like that who are born with this and know how to adjust at the drop of a dime and that's what he did. He weathered the storm and dug and dug to the body, and Percy, what did I tell you before the fight; the inside. He just reasserted Kovalev to know that he was in there with a bad boy from that inside game and those body shots. He showed what boxing is, to be down and get back up and still change the dynamics of the fight and come out with the victory and he deserved the victory.

PC: Who do you feel would have the most work to do heading into a rematch and would you lean towards Ward again?

CS: It would come out the same way. This is why I say that. I think Kovalev would come out thinking he's been cheated, so now he has to get this guy out of there. It's never going to happen. And if it doesn't happen, it would fall right into the hands of Andre Ward again and what it is that he likes to do in there and he would get the victory again.

 

[MJ Truth]

and if u don't as a black boxer in amerikkka u shouldn't respect may big draw results.

not saying u cant be big boxing wise...like Thurman but you'll never transcends boxing media just playing the "good guy" like a pacman can.

only one who did it IMO was ray leonard.....that's like one out of 10 million black boxers since the 1700s.

How many non heavyweight Black boxers transcended boxing media in the first place though breh? We're really only looking at SRL and Floyd if we're talking about names a random middle aged white woman who doesn't like sports would know. Even at heavyweight Holyfield transcended on some good guy shyt, that's how Tyson was promoted early as well until the true colors just had to come through lol.

 

[Axum Ezana]

How many non heavyweight Black boxers transcended boxing media in the first place though breh? We're really only looking at SRL and Floyd if we're talking about names a random middle aged white woman who doesn't like sports would know. Even at heavyweight Holyfield transcended on some good guy shyt, that's how Tyson was promoted early as well until the true colors just had to come through lol.

1.it depends if they want to. klits just wanted the money/hardcore legacy not fame.

2.holy didn't transcend he was chasing Tyson....he was only known as much cause he was linked to the bad guy but the bad guy Tyson was the main draw.

3.young Tyson was popular(boxing wise) a bit but that was because he was so young doing what he was doing imo....he didn't transcend(tmz/tabloid /david letterman type shyt) until the bad press started.

4.tyson is way more popular than srl and Floyd imo. especially in the 90's.

 

[MJ Truth]

1.it depends if they want to. klits just wanted the money/hardcore legacy not fame.

2.holy didn't transcend he was chasing Tyson....he was only known as much cause he was linked to the bad guy but the bad guy Tyson was the main draw.

3.young Tyson was popular(boxing wise) a bit but that was because he was so young doing what he was doing imo....he didn't transcend(tmz/tabloid /david letterman type shyt) until the bad press started.

4.tyson is way more popular than srl and Floyd imo. especially in the 90's.

Breh, EVERYONE knows who Evander Holyfield is. If you wanna say it's only because of Tyson but come on.

And Tyson being way more popular is right, but he's a heavyweight as well. Not sure why you brought up the Klitschkos, I was specifically talking about Black fighters. You said Black fighters have to play the "bad guy" to transcend the sport, but for one, there's only a handful that have even done it outside of the heavyweight division.... if you don't consider Holyfield as a guy who transcended, then it's only SRL and Floyd from the lighter weights.

 

[Axum Ezana]

Breh, EVERYONE knows who Evander Holyfield is. If you wanna say it's only because of Tyson but come on.

And Tyson being way more popular is right, but he's a heavyweight as well. Not sure why you brought up the Klitschkos, I was specifically talking about Black fighters. You said Black fighters have to play the "bad guy" to transcend the sport, but for one, there's only a handful that have even done it outside of the heavyweight division.... if you don't consider Holyfield as a guy who transcended, then it's only SRL and Floyd from the lighter weights.

1.that's what I said.lol its because of Tyson. why couldn't it be too good guys going at each other? instead it had to be rapist vs saved church man. so he did kinda transcend but I don't think he transcends if there is another holy that he is chasing. same thing with joe frazier imo...its cause they linked to a bigger figure with an image America doesn't like.



2.oh okay I mis read what u said the first time, my bad. out side of the hw? yeah they can do it easily but the whites/italians stop dominating the sport by the time we were born, especially the cream of the crop HW.

u would have to go way back in the old days of boxing.....shyt we too young to know about or remember. whites always got title shots quicker and more money quicker. blacks were forced to take dives. boxing built off racism against nikkas.

yall believe what yall want tho

 

[Black_Jesus]

@hyperman25
Holyfield and Tyson both transcended breh.. they were huge.. Tyson was just even more popular

 

[Axum Ezana]

@hyperman25
Holyfield and Tyson both transcended breh.. they were huge.. Tyson was just even more popular

but if it was "holy" vs "holy"...would they still transcend?


can yall give me an example of two black boxers with good images who were rivals that both transcended?

 

[Box Cutta]

but if it was "holy" vs "holy"...would they still transcend?


can yall give me an example of two black boxers with good images who were rivals that both transcended?

Y'all already brought up SRL...

I think that that trio of Hagler/Hearns/Leonard had to have been the closest. Did anyone really dislike Hitman?

My understanding is that Hagler wasn't always a fan favorite, but after the WAR, it's hard to imagine that he was a pure heel going into the SRL fight.

Old heads, y'all have any memory of that time period?

But I get your point. Black boxers have a very difficult tight rope to travel if they want to be "good guys".

 

[reservoirdogs]

Jackson: Kovalev Was 5-1 After Six, Was 3-3 With Ward in Last Six - Boxing News

be objectively wrong brehs...

 

[R=G]

@hyperman25
Holyfield and Tyson both transcended breh.. they were huge.. Tyson was just even more popular

Much, much more popular

 

[Achille]

Kovalev: If Ward Retires - Everyone Will Realize He is a Coward! - Boxing News

Kovalev: If Ward Retires - Everyone Will Realize He is a Coward!

By Vadim Pushkin

Sergey Kovalev (30-1, 26 KOs) has heard the recent rumblings regarding IBF, WBA, WBO light heavyweight champion Andre Ward (31-0, 15KOs).

Last month, Ward won a close and controversial twelve round unanimous decision over Kovalev to capture his three world titles at the T-Mobile Arena in Las Vegas.

Ward recovered from a second round knockdown to win the fight on all three scorecards by a point - 114-113. The outcome has created an ongoing debate among boxing fans over which fighter actually deserved the victory.

There was an immediate rematch clause in the contract. Kovalev has exercised the clause and now expects to face Ward for a second time in the first half of 2017 - either in April or June.

But Ward has made recent statements in the press regarding the possibility of retiring from the sport.

According to Ward, unless he receives a satisfactory offer to face Kovalev for a second time - he'll have no problem with walking away from boxing.

"Of course he realizes [that we have to fight again], and so he starts saying that he can just leave [boxing]. Well, if he leaves then everybody will realize that he is a coward," Kovalev told reporter Elena Sobol.

Kovalev is still very confident that he defeated Ward - and he believes Ward's post-fight behavior tells the story. The Russian boxer posted videos to his personal social media accounts, and he says the videos clearly show Ward behaving like a defeated fighter - until he was announced as the winner.

"I can show you the videos on my Instragram account. He was shocked that he was awarded the victory. You can clearly see, the man was walking around like he lost, and then when the official made his announcement [his entire demeanor changed]."