What was the DNC thinking backing this chick again? They really should have done a curveball and had a Native American run. Clinton shouldn't have even ran. This literally besides Trump fukkery has to be the WORST election season ever.
I did. I merged the threads nd said this is nonsense.I wish mods would do their jobs
Thank you......finallyI did. I merged the threads nd said this is nonsense.
Obama's brought out his own berners before New York. Expect this to be a question/commentary during the debate.
Obama warns Dems against 'Tea Party mentality'
President Obama on Thursday warned Democrats against adopting a “Tea Party mentality” that could lead to deep divisions within the party and harm its chances of winning national elections.
Following the rise of the Tea Party and Donald Trump, Obama said infighting within the Republican Party is much worse than it is on the Democratic side.
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But he urged his party’s voters to be mindful of that danger in the midst of a heated primary battle between Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders.
“The thing Democrats have to guard against is going in the direction that the Republicans are much further along on, and that is this sense 'we are just going to get our way, and if we don’t, then we’ll cannibalize our own, kick them out and try again,' ” he said at a town-hall meeting with law students in Chicago.
In that scenario, Democrats could “stake out positions so extreme, they alienate the broad public,” Obama added. “I don’t see that being where the Democrats go, but it’s always something we have to pay attention to.”
Obama’s comments come amid a major dustup between Clinton and Sanders that has Democrats concerned about keeping their party unified.
Sanders on Wednesday accused Clinton of being not “qualified” to serve as president because of her willingness to use a super-PAC and support for the Iraq War and free trade agreements.
The president did not name Clinton or Sanders. But he offered a staunch defense of his incrementalist view of politics, which has sometimes come under fire from the Vermont senator.
"That’s how change generally happens,” he said, citing the example of his signature healthcare law.
“It’s not perfect. There is no public option, not single-payer,” he said. “If I was designing a system from scratch, it would have been more elegant. But that’s not what was possible in our democracy."
The president also sought to downplay the divisions between Clinton and Sanders.
He said the debate among Democrats is “is a little bit more about means, less about ends,” noting that both candidates broadly agree on issues like the need for universal healthcare and combating climate change.
Obama said he understood the populist sentiment that has driven Sanders’s candidacy. But he said the answer is not to abandon a compromise approach.
“The danger, whether for Democrats or Republicans, is in a closed-loop system where everybody is just listening to the people who agree with them,” he said.
“And that anybody who suggests there is another point of view ... well, then you must be a sellout or you must be corrupted or you must be on the take or what have you," he added. "That is not, I think, useful.”
Obama could be a unifying figure for Democrats in this fall's election.
His approval ratings are at 50 percent or higher in most opinion polls, making him the most popular figure in his party.
But the ongoing primary battle has kept Obama officially off the campaign trail, though he has used his bully pulpit to go after Trump and other GOP candidates.
In speaking to Democrats, the president played the role of party elder. He said has seen this type of mentality bubbling up among Democrats throughout his presidency and is well versed in home harmful it can be.
“A lot of Democrats supported me and still support me got frustrated is because a bunch of the country doesn’t agree with me or them and they have votes too. And they elect members of Congress. That’s how our democracy works," Obama said.
“If you don’t get everything you want, it’s not always because the person you elected sold you out," he continued. "It may just be because in our system, you end up taking half loaves."
Obama was speaking at an event at the University of Chicago Law School where he urged Senate Republicans to take up the nomination of his Supreme Court nominee, Merrick Garland.
Tried to warn ya'll. Got into heated, pitched, ad hominem wars with even Bernie supporters. Seen this shyt 6 years ago, and actually started getting nervous after the election when he went to kiss the ring of Joe Liberman, who got many kicks in on him with this run with McCain.Obama continues to tell on himself
Embarrassing
So all ya'll anti-capitalists need to stfu a little bit. You all keep voting for the corrupt, and building statues and pedestals for them, and wonder why you stay exploited. You haven't seen real capitalism for a long time, so stop pretending like you know what that is.
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nikkas out here confused.Tried to warn ya'll. Got into heated, pitched, ad hominem wars with even Bernie supporters. Seen this shyt 6 years ago, and actually started getting nervous after the election when he went to kiss the ring of Joe Liberman, who got many kicks in on him with this run with McCain.
This was something I really didn't want to be right on.
So all ya'll anti-capitalists need to stfu a little bit. You all keep voting for the corrupt, and building statues and pedestals for them, and wonder why you stay exploited. You haven't seen real capitalism for a long time, so stop pretending like you know what that is.
You're a very smart person. I say to no give up on the system, and find more auditors to make sure the people you vote for do right. Check anything they would do to monitor you and stay peaceful. We can all defeat this, but it takes the energy and intellect of the young, to override the faux feeling of safety and mental laziness of the old.nikkas out here confused.
I'm in my mid 20s and I haven't voted once in any election precisely for the reason that no matter who I vote for, heavy handed exploitation is on the way
Progressive movement gotta split. We can't have Democrats playing to the establishment then in the same breath trying to move towards more progressive ideals. One doesn't work with the other which is why there's such a split between Hillary and Bernie. Liberals can stay with the blue team and pretend like they care about shyt and continue to be pussies when it counts. In the next couple of years a tea party like movement sounds good as long as it's not run by retards like the tea party. Shaky liberalism needs to die because the GOP ain't fukking around anymore, they will do things by any means necessary.Obama's brought out his own berners before New York. Expect this to be a question/commentary during the debate.
Obama warns Dems against 'Tea Party mentality'
President Obama on Thursday warned Democrats against adopting a “Tea Party mentality” that could lead to deep divisions within the party and harm its chances of winning national elections.
Following the rise of the Tea Party and Donald Trump, Obama said infighting within the Republican Party is much worse than it is on the Democratic side.
ADVERTISEMENT
But he urged his party’s voters to be mindful of that danger in the midst of a heated primary battle between Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders.
“The thing Democrats have to guard against is going in the direction that the Republicans are much further along on, and that is this sense 'we are just going to get our way, and if we don’t, then we’ll cannibalize our own, kick them out and try again,' ” he said at a town-hall meeting with law students in Chicago.
In that scenario, Democrats could “stake out positions so extreme, they alienate the broad public,” Obama added. “I don’t see that being where the Democrats go, but it’s always something we have to pay attention to.”
Obama’s comments come amid a major dustup between Clinton and Sanders that has Democrats concerned about keeping their party unified.
Sanders on Wednesday accused Clinton of being not “qualified” to serve as president because of her willingness to use a super-PAC and support for the Iraq War and free trade agreements.
The president did not name Clinton or Sanders. But he offered a staunch defense of his incrementalist view of politics, which has sometimes come under fire from the Vermont senator.
"That’s how change generally happens,” he said, citing the example of his signature healthcare law.
“It’s not perfect. There is no public option, not single-payer,” he said. “If I was designing a system from scratch, it would have been more elegant. But that’s not what was possible in our democracy."
The president also sought to downplay the divisions between Clinton and Sanders.
He said the debate among Democrats is “is a little bit more about means, less about ends,” noting that both candidates broadly agree on issues like the need for universal healthcare and combating climate change.
Obama said he understood the populist sentiment that has driven Sanders’s candidacy. But he said the answer is not to abandon a compromise approach.
“The danger, whether for Democrats or Republicans, is in a closed-loop system where everybody is just listening to the people who agree with them,” he said.
“And that anybody who suggests there is another point of view ... well, then you must be a sellout or you must be corrupted or you must be on the take or what have you," he added. "That is not, I think, useful.”
Obama could be a unifying figure for Democrats in this fall's election.
His approval ratings are at 50 percent or higher in most opinion polls, making him the most popular figure in his party.
But the ongoing primary battle has kept Obama officially off the campaign trail, though he has used his bully pulpit to go after Trump and other GOP candidates.
In speaking to Democrats, the president played the role of party elder. He said has seen this type of mentality bubbling up among Democrats throughout his presidency and is well versed in home harmful it can be.
“A lot of Democrats supported me and still support me got frustrated is because a bunch of the country doesn’t agree with me or them and they have votes too. And they elect members of Congress. That’s how our democracy works," Obama said.
“If you don’t get everything you want, it’s not always because the person you elected sold you out," he continued. "It may just be because in our system, you end up taking half loaves."
Obama was speaking at an event at the University of Chicago Law School where he urged Senate Republicans to take up the nomination of his Supreme Court nominee, Merrick Garland.
THEY AIN'T PLAYING TO THE ESTABLISHMENT, THEY'RE BEING JUDGED BY THEM....Progressive movement gotta split. We can't have Democrats playing to the establishment then in the same breath trying to move towards more progressive ideals. One doesn't work with the other which is why there's such a split between Hillary and Bernie. Liberals can stay with the blue team and pretend like they care about shyt and continue to be pussies when it counts. In the next couple of years a tea party like movement sounds good as long as it's not run by retards like the tea party. Shaky liberalism needs to die because the GOP ain't fukking around anymore, they will do things by any means necessary.
fukk incrementalism and fukk their party. Obama's making a big mistake thinking just having decorum and intelligence is the way nowadays. Independents and a sizable portion of the Dems are ready too.