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for the record your post, while i dont disagree with it, IS speculation. you arent presenting facts

but lets be honest breh, it doesnt matter who my ass is voting for. "hilldawg" is prolly gonna win, goldman sachs is gonna keep raping us, people are still gonna get paid like shyt, and things are gonna go on as usual

im not rewarding the democratic establishment by voting for hillary clinton. the same establishment that takes everyone in your posts^^^^ vote for granted. fukk that
The problem is Trump hasn't presented any facts himself. It's a guessing game with him. The only thing concrete he's released is his tax and health care plans which are straight out the conservative playbook. Everything else is dependent on him "making deals," being strong, or using coded speak to hide true intentions. The emperor has no clothes. And I'm not saying vote for the Democrat either. And even if Bernie was the nominee he has some things to sort out his damn self.
 

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The problem is Trump hasn't presented any facts himself. It's a guessing game with him. The only thing concrete he's released is his tax and health care plans which are straight out the conservative playbook. Everything else is dependent on him "making deals," being strong, or using coded speak to hide true intentions. The emperor has no clothes. And I'm not saying vote for the Democrat either. And even if Bernie was the nominee he has some things to sort out his damn self.
i can only look at where politicians like hillary clinton have gotten us, and im not happy with it :yeshrug:

i dont have the answers
 

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Because they need those votes to win the presidency and Congress. Also their tax dollars pay for their shyt too. Whatever though, we must bow to these people without question.

And they can vote during the general election. However if you want to have a say in who the nominee of a political party is, you join that party. All primaries should be closed to registered democrats and republicans
 

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And they can vote during the general election. However if you want to have a say in who the nominee of a political party is, you join that party. All primaries should be closed to registered democrats and republicans
Cool, then don't use my tax dollars to fund them:ehh:

Until then the people have a right to disagree with a system that doesn't represent the whole of the electorate.
 
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And they can vote during the general election. However if you want to have a say in who the nominee of a political party is, you join that party. All primaries should be closed to registered democrats and republicans

If that's your stance then you need to also demand the democratization of the political process by removing barriers to third-parties. What you're saying makes more sense if we had a multitude of parties. But in a two-party system where people don't have much of a choice, that eliminates a lot of people from the process until the general election... which reduces the democratic process even more to voting once every few years :scusthov: Democracy needs to be much deeper than that.
 

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next time im going third party. but its not about hillary, its about the establishment

trump is a huge L for both the repub and democratic establishment

hillary clinton is also the most corrupt candidate in the entire race, so trump is the lesser of two evils. shes an absolute sociopath

and for the record, i fukkin agree with him when it comes to illegal immigrants and muslim immigrants. i dont give a shyt about either group, and they shouldnt be here. immigrants are taking labor and construction jobs from low skilled americans who BADLY need them all over the country, it isnt about picking fruit. and muslim immigrants should go to muslim countries where there values are compatible. im not about this open arms bullshyt the democrats are using to pander :scusthov: at least repubs have the balls to speak on it

You could've kept the bolded to yourself because it sounds racist and uniformed as fukk.....

Let me ask you something, are you a "low skilled American doing construction or hard manual labor"??? Because that talking point is very played out and wrong. In America most people of the working class are paid what they accept NOT really what they're worth. I'm more worried about an American loner or a white dude loosing his job going on a killing spree than a Mexican or arab.

Another BS talking point is "they come here and they hate America, they hate our values"...What the fukk are "American values"? Blacks don't have ANY allies in America. You mind your business, work hard and hope you can save for retirement and just live your life. This country "belongs" to no one. Everyone wants prosperity for themselves and their families...

Donald trump is a rich fukking troll and if he is president he will NOT "shake anything up". Him calling out the republican establishment doesn't make him right for the job. His ego is as big as his bank account. The fringe of the republican party who are poor, or at best middle class that have their hearts with trump CAN'T identify with him in anyway. They actually think he gives a damn about kitchen table problems facing americans regardless of their political stance.

As I previously stated, you get trump talking about REAL ISSUES and he looks bewildered and ignorant so name calling, mud slinging, and catchy disrespectful epithets towards his opponents are his talking points...

I do however agree with you about Hillary. She is not a sociopath, she just wants what she feels she should've gotten 8 years ago and will say or do anything to get there. She's an entitled opportunist. But if you think going with trump is better than her or Bernie then you've felt that way from the jump or you're trolling. WTF has she done to you? But again it's a cool talking point on here so keep cooking...
 

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You could've kept the bolded to yourself because it sounds racist and uniformed as fukk.....
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no, you want it to sound racist. its not racist to say that illegal immigration hurts this country, and ill make no apology for saying it

why dont you explain to us how it's a net positive?
 

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no, you want it to sound racist. its not racist to say that illegal immigration hurts this country, and ill make no apology for saying it

NO shade, but are you reading what you're posting? You said you "don't give a shyt about either group, you won't apologize for it, they're taking jobs and hurting the economy" Now you're saying I want it to sound it racist?...Wow, stop with the drug store, reverse psycho analysis.

Like I said before you sound ignorant and it's the same BS, extreme right wing rhetoric, talking points I've seen before...

Again I ask, as one of those "illegal Mexicans" taken a construction job from you? There are paths to citizenship. You said you WON'T apologize for your opinion, who ask you to do so? And in my opinion you sound like a ignorant, racist POS. But that's my opinion... So let's agree to disagree....
 

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no, you want it to sound racist. its not racist to say that illegal immigration hurts this country, and ill make no apology for saying it

NO shade, but are you reading what you're posting? You said you "don't give a shyt about either group, you won't apologize for it, they're taking jobs and hurting the economy" Now you're saying I want it to sound it racist?...Wow, stop with the drug store, reverse psycho analysis.

Like I said before you sound ignorant and it's the same BS, extreme right wing rhetoric, talking points I've seen before...

Again I ask, as one of those "illegal Mexicans" taken a construction job from you? There are paths to citizenship. You said you WON'T apologize for your opinion, who ask you to do so? And in my opinion you're talking points on the matter make you sound like a ignorant, racist POS. But that's my opinion... So let's agree to disagree....
 

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so an immigrant has to actively take a job away from me, in order for me to mention that issue :what: THATS your position?

get the fukk outta here :camby: i notice you made zero attempt to address how illegal immigration is a net negative for this country, because it's a fact
 

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