The Official Oakland Raiders Offseason thread

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[BucciMane]

I learned from BeliGOAT. I'm the anti- Swagnificent in my evaluations..

This looks like it's a cash problem, and not a salary cap issue and not wanting to pay Mack. the Raiders look like they put themselves in a position where they are somewhat cash-strapped, and if that's the position they are in, then getting to first round picks for Mack is great compensation. That doesn't absolve them of putting themselves into the situation, but being in the situation they seem to be in, that is as good of a return as you can ask for.

very few, if any players would get two first-round draft picks in return while also needing to be given a massive deal.

Was Mack turning that team from 1-7 to 5-3 or better?

Would you rather have him, with a mega contract, and a losing record, or more cap space into first round picks while you try and rebuild? he was not going to be the difference between this team making the playoffs and not making the playoffs this season..

Proven players absolutely more valuable in a vacuum. However, you have to factor in the salary cap and where the team stands competitively.

Were the Raiders a playoff team this year and next year with Mack and Cooper? I would say absolutely not, unless there were injuries to the Chiefs and Chargers that have not happened this year. Of course any team would rather have Mack than the picks if they were a contender, but the Raiders weren't and are not.

Not paying Mack that amount of money and getting two first rounds picks makes a LOT of sense.

1. If the Raiders give Mack that contract the way their current team is structured, do they make the playoffs? They have both the Chiefs and the Chargers in their own division. So, it's almost automatic they aren't winning that division, and would hae to get a wild card spot. One of those spots would likely be the Chargers. They weren't going to have a much better record with Mack.

2. If the Raiders were a contending team, then keeping Mack would have made sense, but getting two first round picks when your team is trash, and not having to dish out $20mil/year to a defensive player is not bad for the Raiders at all.

3. Show me the last time a team with a defensive player like Mack on a long term contract taking up the same percentage of cap space has won a Super Bowl? It is not common at all.


If the Raiders were a team that had real playoffs hopes, they may have kept him. But, being trash, having a new coach, and having to pay a defensive player (rarely are worth that much) that much money, I can absolutely see why he was traded. The Raiders may or may not hit on those picks, but they weren't making the playoffs with him as the team was constructed..

 

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I learned from BeliGOAT. I'm the anti- Swagnificent in my evaluations..

Respect bucci

I remember u been saying this

 

[BucciMane]

Respect bucci

I remember u been saying this

People are stupid.

Mack was/is elite. However, he is a defensive player, and paying defensive player that much money doesn't usually work out.

The Raiders were not going to win with him at that time. Yes, first round picks aren't guaranteed, but it was absolutely worth doing that trade when the team was not in contention and had a new front office. The Raiders needed/need to hit on those picks, but the trade itself was an A+ to me..

 

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[ryderldb]

I learned from BeliGOAT. I'm the anti- Swagnificent in my evaluations..

After the sting of losing Mack wore off, I was ok with the trade. The only thing that I didn't like was that the raiders still had to give up a 2nd rounder in the deal.

 

[Imgone8itch]

After the sting of losing Mack wore off, I was ok with the trade. The only thing that I didn't like was that the raiders still had to give up a 2nd rounder in the deal.

Facts but the money thing that is kinda iffy to me because if it’s the cash up front yes I agree but we got one extra first rd pick that year which right now now we wouldn’t have drafted ferell, also I hated giving up a second, we ended up getting a first for cooper. We got arnett and ferell because if we keep Mack and trade cooper we still get Abrams and Jacobs, we probably still draft maxx, we save money on nassb, Joyner and brown but overall we are still good but I still keep Mack the defensive line is the weakest link right now

 

[focusloco]

I watched the game at the Mandalay Bay on the strip...brehs the ENERGY was fukking crazy in that joint..place was silver and blacked out. ..Went down to the stadium after the game and partied with hundreds of Raiders fans down there and the strip...great night for Las Vegas and Raider Nation

 

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Still the number one team in LA

 

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[2Quik4UHoes]

Still the number one team in LA

When the Raiders win a bowl in Vegas. Certified in three cities

 

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