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you have to take into account the difference between him and the next best corner in the league.

revis is the best corner in the league no doubt. I don't think he's the 5th best player in the L though
 

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21st against the pass. D revis aint part of that?
and lol@urlacher being #5 where did I say anything like that Joe Sixpack? biggest homer on the board? :childplease: b/c I don't think revis is the 5th best player in the nfl?

That has nothing to do with the luxury of having building a defense around your corner.

That is unprecedented....and the PLAYERS, both retired and current, know that, I acknowledge it, while you don't.

Look at the last sentence and see who is out of touch here.

Revis can't make Eric Smith a good cover safety the same way Ware can't make Newman a good cover corner. Using overall numbers are dumb when ONE player doesn't impact the overall numbers in a sport called FOOTBALL.

This isnt' basketball homie.
 

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21st against the pass. D revis aint part of that?
and lol@urlacher being #5 where did I say anything like that Joe Sixpack? biggest homer on the board? :childplease: b/c I don't think revis is the 5th best player in the nfl?

the jets secondary is pretty bad outside of revis :comeon:


take him off that defense and there dead last in the nfl in pass defense, plus u have take into consideration they have no pass rush what so ever and was one of the leagues worse teams in sacks and pass hurries.
 

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:wtf: have you ever watch a steelers game?


matthews aint better than cam wake, your obviously a dolphins stanboy who dont know shyt about football.


a supposed to be top 5 pass rusher who is 26th in the nfl in sacks and he is better than somebody who led the league in sacks a few seasons ago and was dpoty?

matthews damn sure ain't better than cam wake, the guy has less QB pressure than Wake playing 150 more pass rush snap...

yeah I'm watching steelers game where opponents have to account for both woodley and harrison

meanwhile Cam Wake gets double teamed on every single snap being the sole focus of the other team last year and still manages to have 2nd most combined sacks, hurries & QB hits

Harrison is arguable, but in a pass rushing perspective, Woodley is NOT better than Wake

we're really gonna ignore those kind of stats

Cameron Wake of the Dolphins drew 13 of them (holding flags) this year. That was more than any other player by far. In fact, he drew eight on pass plays, which was more than any other player had on all plays, pass and run combined.

or the fact that he's produced more pressure per pass rushing snap than any player since 2009 ?
 

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revis is the best corner in the league no doubt. I don't think he's the 5th best player in the L though

its all opinion anyways...but I think they way they look at it is...Revis is far and away the best corner...which leap frogs him ahead of Demarcus Ware and JAred Allen because you could probably make a case for both being the best DE in football.
 

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the jets secondary is pretty bad outside of revis :comeon:


take him off that defense and there dead last in the nfl in pass defense, plus u have take into consideration they have no pass rush what so ever and was one of the leagues worse teams in sacks and pass hurries.

Cromartie was very good last season
 

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the jets secondary is pretty bad outside of revis :comeon:


take him off that defense and there dead last in the nfl in pass defense, plus u have take into consideration they have no pass rush what so ever and was one of the leagues worse teams in sacks and pass hurries.
you have to understand im not 'hating' on revis I just dont think hes the 5th best player in the NFL i said 10 would have been legit
 

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you have to understand im not 'hating' on revis I just dont think hes the 5th best player in the NFL i said 10 would have been legit

He is.

No other team in the NFL builds their defense around one corner.

If he's that unique, he HAS to be one of the best. The players recognize it. Why don't you?
 

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its all opinion anyways...but I think they way they look at it is...Revis is far and away the best corner...which leap frogs him ahead of Demarcus Ware and JAred Allen because you could probably make a case for both being the best DE in football.
im cool with that
i think allen is way better then ware though
 

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He is.

No other team in the NFL builds their defense around one corner.

If he's that unique, he HAS to be one of the best. The players recognize it. Why don't you?
being number 10 isn't considered one of the best reb? really?
 

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matthews damn sure ain't better than cam wake, the guy has less QB pressure than Wake playing 150 more pass rush snap...

yeah I'm watching steelers game where opponents have to account for both woodley and harrison

meanwhile Cam Wake gets double teamed on every single snap being the sole focus of the other team last year and still manages to have 2nd most combined sacks, hurries & QB hits

Harrison is arguable, but in a pass rushing perspective, Woodley is NOT better than Wake

we're really gonna ignore those kind of stats



or the fact that he's produced more pressure per pass rushing snap than any player since 2009 ?

holding penalties is your argument breh :stopitslime:


u still have not proved how he is a top 5 pass rusher, all your doing is posting a bunch of numbers which dosent prove anything.

and i could tell u dont watch too many steeler games because woodley was a better pass rusher than harrison last season, jus and was the better player overall. stop pulling up these random ass numbers which dosent prove anything.


is cam the best pass rusher in the afc east yes
 

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you have to understand im not 'hating' on revis I just dont think hes the 5th best player in the NFL i said 10 would have been legit

would u agree he is the best defensive player in the nfl?
 

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being number 10 isn't considered one of the best reb? really?

Dog....do you know how much of a luxury it is for a player to cover 1/3 of the field?

No other player in the league can do that.

He's the best defender in the league. The distance between him and the guy next on the list is greater than the gap between 1 and 2 in all other positions in the league.

Even Demarcus WAre said Revis was the best defensive player in the league.
 

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would u agree he is the best defensive player in the nfl?
over the past few years yes
last year I wouldn't have a problem if someone said pat willis was the best, but yes revis is the best player on D in the L
 

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holding penalties is your argument breh :stopitslime:


u still have not proved how he is a top 5 pass rusher, all your doing is posting a bunch of numbers which dosent prove anything.

and i could tell u dont watch too many steeler games because woodley was a better pass rusher than harrison last season, jus and was the better player overall. stop pulling up these random ass numbers which dosent prove anything.


is cam the best pass rusher in the afc east yes

lol wtf have you read any of the things I've posted ? A bunch of number which doesnt prove anything ?

More pressure than any player last season doesn't prove anything ?
Averages more pressure per snap than any player since coming into the league doesn't prove anything ?
Numbers are showing he arguably does more with less around him than both Woodley & Harrison

what are YOU proved to tell me he isn't a top 5 pass-rusher

the guy should've been in consideration for DPOY in 2010 had he not played for such a shytty Dolphins team
 
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