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The Official NBA 2K17 Thread
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Anybody know the caps this year.
I always make an athletic pass first pg
Jaylen Tatum
Superstar
BROWARD
#thankyoukobe
I had the best pg in mypark 
Darth Nubian
I bought my first Ki from my baby momma brother
The dribbling looks stiff and dumb, why take out those signature size ups and moves, all they had to do was polish them up
They didn't take out signature size ups. You can now branch out of them at more points. They probably aren't going to be as effective because the signature size ups aren't going to pull the defense into animations like last year.
Sonny Corinthos
Superstar
The regular body types don't look bad at all
Everyone does, try being original for once
Think I'll make a PF this year.
Hi everyone! My name is Ben Bishop, and I’m a Senior Producer here at Visual Concepts. I spend most of my time working on all things MyCAREER, so I’m here to fill you in on the new and exciting changes we made for the mode in NBA 2K17.
You’ve probably heard about The Prelude by now, but if you haven’t, check out the trailer, or just try it out. It’ll be available on Xbox Live and the PlayStation Network on September 9, and it’s completely free! The Prelude covers the college portion of MyCAREER, and has a ton of great content. If you want a head start on your career, or even just to get a taste of what the game is like this year, I promise it’ll be worth your time. But the intent of this blog is to cover everything ELSE you’ll find in MyCAREER, so let’s get started.
Player Creation
Before we get into any of the main feature details, we should start at the beginning – Player Creation. We completely revamped the way you create your player this year, because in NBA 2K17, it’s more important than ever.
First off is the concept of archetypes. You’re not just choosing a position anymore. Now you also choose what type of a player you want to be, and this, in turn, dictates your starting attributes, your ratings cap in each of our 10 attribute categories (up from 6 in 2K16), plus which badges you can upgrade.
From choosing an archetype, you move on to many of the typical creation decisions, like height, weight, and wingspan. The key to remember in 2K17 is that THESE THINGS MATTER. How you shape yourself from the very beginning has a huge impact on what type of a player you will become. Throughout the creation process, we do our best to illustrate exactly what your various physical changes will do to your player’s attributes. For example, you can see here when adjusting height, a taller point guard will lose a little bit in things like speed and shooting ability, but gain in things like dunking and rebounding.
It’s all up to you. Our main intention with this is to create a wider variety of player types than ever before, each offering a different style of gameplay and a completely unique experience in the mode. Playing in the NBA as a Sharpshooting PG is totally different than playing as a Paint Protecting C, and this holds true in NBA 2K17 in a big way. My favorite part about this is the amount of replayability it adds, not just for the way the story unfolds around you, but in how much extra it can offer you in related modes like MyPARK and 2K Pro-Am.
The Story
Speaking of the story, we might as well dig in. In NBA 2K16, we took a rather different approach. Spike Lee’s Livin’ Da Dream narrative was very linear, focused almost exclusively on the off-the-court trials and tribulations of a young, up-and-coming NBA star. This year, we wanted to bring the emphasis back on the court to the game of basketball, and with a much more dynamic and interactive story element.
In our early brainstorming meetings, one of the ideas that resonated most with us was the concept of a dynamic duo. Seeing what two young stars can do as they rise up together is very intriguing, whether it’s Steph and Klay, Durant and Westbrook, or even going back a bit to pairs like Kobe and Shaq, Stockton and Malone, or Jordan and Pippen.
And so Justice Young was born. He’s a second round pick on your team that comes in with a bit of a chip on his shoulder, having been passed over and second-guessed for most of his basketball career. But Justice is a hard-worker and a great athlete, and if you show the same devotion to practice and working on your game that he does, he soon becomes an important figure in the fast-moving NBA world that’s opening up in front of your eyes.
Denver Levins is another noteworthy addition to the team in your rookie year. He’s an undrafted player that spent time in Europe and the D-League, and since he doesn’t have the pedigree of someone like MyPLAYER, he’s mostly just happy to be there. More than anything, Denver brings fun to the team. His sense of humor is evident from the very beginning, and he helps give MyPLAYER an outlet and someone to relax with when the pressures are mounting.
I won’t spend too much time getting into the rest of the characters here. It’ll be more exciting for you to discover them on your own. But rest assured, we’ve got some of the expected ones – your agent, the assistant coach, the team’s trainer – and some potentially unexpected ones too – a beat reporter, your girlfriend, your barber. As MyPLAYER deals with yet another transition – new teammates, a new city, new coaches – for the third year in a row (high school, college, and now the NBA), all of these characters play important roles in helping him finding his way.
One other important goal for us this year was to continue to improve the quality of the actors. As you can see in the screenshots, Justice is played by Michael B. Jordan. Having an actor of his caliber was amazing, and he set the tone from the very beginning for the rest of the cast. In NBA 2K17, we made it a point to cast seasoned actors in every role, and I’m sure you’ll recognize some of the other names too, from Hannibal Buress as Ice the Barber, to Matt Walsh as your college coach, Hemsley Adson.
The other piece to that puzzle was finding someone who could act as the driving force behind the story, which led us to bring on Aaron Covington as writer/director. Aaron was a writer for the movie Creed, so teaming him up with Michael B. Jordan was a natural fit. And beyond that, he’s a hardcore NBA fan and a longtime NBA 2K gamer, and that made a huge difference in what we were able to capture this year.
Those details aside, probably the biggest difference from NBA 2K16 is the way this year’s story unfolds. The way you play the game and the decisions you make off-the-court will change the way you experience the narrative. If you’re a gym rat like Justice, the two of you will form a strong bond right away. If you’re more outspoken in press conferences and when talking with the media, it will have ramifications down the line. Even our new text messaging system (more on that below) plays an important role, as how and when you choose to do things, as well as the way you respond in personal conversations, will help to dictate what is going on around you over the course of the season.
Orange Juice
Orange Juice? Really? I’m sure that’s what you’re all wondering. And as strange as it sounds, Orange Juice is an important part of MyCAREER this year. Orange Juice represents the chemistry between MyPLAYER and Justice Young. As their relationship develops, Orange Juice becomes a nickname for the two of them, and a key element in the story. Think of the Splash Brothers, or Showtime. There’s a little more to it, but I’ll let you discover that as you play the game.
Perhaps even more exciting though, is what it signifies on the court. As MyPLAYER and Justice continue to work together off the court, it has a real impact in what happens during games. When the two of you are locked in, you have the opportunity to utilize dual player controls for the first time ever in MyCAREER. Not only can you tell Justice to do things like cut to the basket, take a shot, or isolate, you can also switch over and control him entirely.
Again, this is a totally different way to play the game in MyCAREER. It really adds an exciting twist to what is already a greatly enhanced gameplay experience. We have had so much fun around the office finding ways to work the two-man game within the offense, and then hearing the characters react and interact after the game to a great (or not-so-great) performance only adds to the immersion. And of course, if that doesn’t seem to be your thing and you just want to focus on MyPLAYER, that’s certainly still something you can do. But I really think you’ll enjoy the new perspective it brings to MyCAREER gameplay, and I can’t wait for everyone to be able to try it.
Off-Court AI
One of the biggest changes in MyCAREER this year is our new Off-Court AI system. In NBA 2K16, we introduced the ability to choose between practice, connections, and endorsements on your off-days. This year we took it to a whole new level. Now many different things will be scheduled throughout a given off-day, and it’s up to you to decide what you want to do during each period of time.
The practice gym is always open, so putting in work is never a bad idea. Maybe you want to take up some of your time earning extra VC making an appearance for a local endorsement company. Or maybe you’ve connected with Karl-Anthony Towns recently, and he’s in town and wants to do something. Cultivating that relationship could be very beneficial, both in terms of earning fans and other rewards, and in connecting with other players around the league. But time is a valuable commodity, and you can’t do everything. It’s up to you to decide what’s most important for your MyPLAYER. And our Off-Court AI system will be constantly evaluating your play and your relationships with players, endorsement companies, and other people around the league to determine what opportunities will become available to you next.
Text Messages
The main form of communication in MyCAREER with the various people you interact with is text messaging. In past years, this type of communication was very primitive, and usually one-way. This year, the conversations are completely interactive. You decide what to say and how each conversation will unfold. As you build relationships with players around the league, they’ll be in regular communication with you, setting up events, commenting on your play, and even occasionally stopping by to hang out when they’re around.
Endorsements
Endorsements are a crucial part of what you do off the court, and this year we put a ton of effort into creating a more realistic system that will give you at least a little bit of a taste of what it’s like for an NBA star to decide who he wants to associate himself with.
First off, and one of the changes we’re most excited about, is the way that shoe deals work. Instead of waiting weeks and weeks for shoe companies to come around, in NBA 2K17, you make the decision right at the beginning of your career, just like a real NBA rookie would. But it’s not an easy choice to make. Each company offers different benefits. Some will give you more swag right away, while others will require you to work harder to move up the ladder. Your draft position plays a big role in this, so the better you do in college, the more likely you’ll be able to jump right into a cash deal or even a custom colorway deal, rather than just a simple merch deal.
As your star continues to rise, more companies will come calling. And this is completely dynamic in that it’s all based on the way you play. A company like Mountain Dew might be looking for a flashier player, while a company like Spalding is more interested in players that exhibit strong ball handling abilities. If you fit either of those criteria, expect those companies to reach out sooner rather than later. And this concept extends to players too, by the way. Steph Curry will connect with you sooner if you make a lot of deep threes (or sign with Under Armour). Kobe Bryant will take an interest if you put in a lot of extra work in your MyCOURT or at the Practice Gym. And so on, and so on.
Below is an example of what an endorsement contract offer might look like. You can see that sometimes you will have the opportunity to earn additional incentives based on your play, along with your regular appearance rewards. In some cases, the deal you sign will be exclusive, locking you in with that company, but preventing you from signing on with a competing company. You also have the ability to negotiate for things like more VC or fewer appearances, and it really becomes a game within the game as you work with your agent to navigate the waters and fit all of your commitments into your busy schedule.
Live Practice and Doin’ Work
Obviously your play on the court is the core of MyCAREER mode. Always has been, and always will be. And a big part of that is putting in work in your down time to make yourself a better player. With that in mind, we decided to expand our Live Practice system from last year to include what we call the Doin’ Work meter. Filling up the Doin’ Work meter will earn you progress towards additional upgrade slots, which will allow you to fully maximize your MyPLAYER’s abilities. If you want to be a 99 overall, and truly one of the best of the best, you’re gonna have to put in the time and earn your way there.
On that note, one of the things we wanted to make sure of was that the time you spend on the court working on your game always counts for something. So now whether you’re in the middle of a Team Practice, working on your shot in the Practice Gym with Justice, or even just shooting around solo in your MyCOURT, the Doin’ Work meter is always there tracking your progress and letting you know that your time and effort is not going to waste.
Besides Doin’ Work, the suite of drills available in Live Practice has greatly expanded. You’ll see many of the favorites from 2K16 returning, but we added quite a few more to go with them. One of the main themes with these was finding ways to create drills that are not just fun, but that also help teach you how to be more successful in games. That means you’ll see new drills centered on things like ball movement, setting screens, and the pick-and-roll, to name a few.
We’ve also expanded the alcove just off the practice court that last year housed the Gatorade Reaction drills. Now you can also do things like a ladder agility drill, bench press, squats, and free weights, along with some carryovers from last year in the box and vertical jumps. Again, everything matters here. You gotta put in the work if you want to become a star!
MyCOURT
MyCOURT is back, and bigger and better than ever. Like in 2K16, it once again acts as the hub of the mode. This is your home base, the place you come back to between games to upgrade your player, check stats and standings, hang out with your friends, display your awards and accolades, and so much more.
In NBA 2K17, you can now earn 3 different courts, unlocked as rewards as you progress through the mode. All 3 are fully customizable, with a wide range of court floors, wall murals, and other accessories available to allow you to create something that suits the personality of you and your MyPLAYER best.
Additionally, your MyCOURT is now fully connected to the rest of the mode. We have a wide variety of story scenes that take place there to help bring the story, your off-court events, and the ability to work on your game all together in one place.
And perhaps one of the coolest features in the entire mode this year is that you can now get MyCOURT visitors. Not just your online friends from the real world (although, yes, that’s still very much an option), but players you’ve built relationships with in your career. Early on, Denver and Justice will stop by to hang out and get some work in (Protip: Spending time Doin’ Work with other players is more valuable and will move that meter up more quickly), and eventually that will expand to your teammates and other connections you’ve made around the league.
In one of my very favorite experiences so far in 2K17, I had just come back from a Team Practice, and the Timberwolves were up on the schedule the next day. I had connected with Karl-Anthony Towns previously, and since he was in town for the game, he sent me a text letting me know he was free that afternoon and wanted to stop by. I agreed, and after shooting around for a bit, he challenged me to a game of 1-on-1.
Now, with me being a 6’3” PG, and Towns being a 7’ C, it was already shaping up to be an interesting match-up. But KAT is no typical big man. The guy can move his feet, and he’s a great defender. So I wasn’t going to jet past him for easy lay-ups the way I envisioned. He actually started off by backing me down in true post-scorer fashion, and I simply couldn’t stop him. I finally got him to miss after 3 straight baskets, and then got 3 of my own to tie it up. On the next possession, I used some dribble moves to leave him in the dust, but he recovered much more quickly than I expected, and caught up and blocked what was supposed to be my flashy dunk to rub it in his face. And then he got the ball back and scored the next 2 baskets to win the game. Ouch.
It was really a unique experience though, and the kind I’ve never had in our game before. Just seeing an NBA star like Karl-Anthony Towns showing up at your own private, customized court is cool in itself, but being able to shoot around with him and get some valuable work in, as well, is a whole extra level of fun.
Additional Notes
There’s so much to talk about here, and I feel like I’m only scratching the surface, so let me just throw out a few more notes on things I didn’t get a chance to cover in-depth before I finish up:
There really is an unbelievable amount of content in MyCAREER this year – certainly more than we’ve ever done before. While you will generally always have the opportunity to do things like team up with Justice, learn how to survive and adjust to the long NBA season, and sign endorsement deals, the how, when, and why will be different, and there will be plenty of other things you won’t experience at all in just a single playthrough.
- Remember, how you play on the court and what you do off the court MATTER. In fact, one of the very first big story branches occurs in the Prelude. Play well enough there, and you’ll get story elements less successful players won’t.
- You have already, and will continue to hear from our gameplay team on all the changes they made to gameplay, but I have to say they really outdid themselves this time. The changes to shooting and physicality make such a big difference, and playing as a big man in MyCAREER has never been more fun.
- On that note, listen to your Coach! Team Practices, in particular, are important not just for making your MyPLAYER better, but also in keeping your standing in the rotation. And our new Smart Coach system is constantly watching and evaluating both you and your team, so use the nuggets of information it’s dropping, and work hard on those drills in practice to make your play on the court that much stronger.
- We did our best to make every system in the mode as intelligent and relevant as possible. Pay attention to what’s going on around you, and think carefully about the decisions you make. Occasionally, they will have long-term ramifications that you won’t realize until later on down the road.
- Context is important too. While certain players or endorsement companies might be more interested in a specific style of play, where and when you do things makes a difference. For example, a posterizing dunk on LeBron James in the 4th quarter of a tied game that’s on national TV (yes, those are concepts we track) will count a lot more in your favor than a posterizing dunk on a player from the end of the bench on a small market team in a game that’s a total blowout. So if you have a penchant for coming up clutch in key moments, that’ll put you on the fast track to bigger and better things.
- Don’t ignore your text messages! Not only will they offer you opportunities to build relationships with other NBA players, but they are your direct avenue to endorsement contracts, and some of the conversations you have will directly impact the story unfolding around you.
- I can’t say enough how cool it is the way you get immersed in the story. As mentioned, having scenes that take place in your MyCOURT makes a big difference, but you’ll also find a lot of content in the Practice Gym (go to practice!), as well as regular post-game reactions from MyPLAYER and Justice as you follow them seamlessly off the court, down the tunnel, and into the locker room. From sideline interviews with David Aldridge, to remote interviews post-game with Shaq and Kenny back in the studio, there’s always something going on to keep the world around you feeling alive and aware. Hats off to both our presentation team and our MyCAREER engineers and designers. They did an unbelievable job making all of this happen.
- Lastly, I know I used this word a lot here, but one of the biggest themes in MyCAREER is that we want you to have fun. 2K16’s story was definitely slanted towards the more dramatic and emotional moments a young NBA player might face, so for NBA 2K17, we wanted to be closer to the other end of the spectrum. And hopefully we’re able to give you a little bit of an idea of what being on the path to stardom in the NBA might be like.
One of our favorite things here at the office is to see all the YouTube videos and reactions from people on social media and message boards as they play through the mode, and this year should offer the widest variety of experiences yet. Everything from the overarching story, to choosing different archetypes, to dual player controls and all the huge changes to gameplay, to forging your own path via the multitude of off-court decisions and finding out which endorsement deals best suit your MyPLAYER, will make for completely unique stories from each person who plays the game. And we can’t wait for you all to try it out and let us know what you think. Thanks for reading!
- Ben Bishop
More NBA 2K17 MyCAREER Details
During the NBA 2K17 community event, the one item that was to remain under a strict embargo was any discussion about the new MyCareer mode.
After last year's Frequency Vibrations MyCareer story presented by Spike Lee, the NBA 2K team was focused on ways to improve the game's most played mode, and Jeff Thomas, VP for Visual Concepts, was ready to share all that is new this year in MyCareer.
As you likely know by now, on September 9 The Prelude will be available as a free download. Players can begin their MyCareer 11 days before the full release of NBA 2K17, and you'll be able to play a significant amount of MyCareer leading up to when you'll declare for the NBA Draft and start your NBA career.
The Prelude will allow you to create your character, begin your unique MyCareer storyline, and make choices about things like where to go to college.
As you continue through The Prelude, you'll play up to four of your college games, all the while making an impact on your draft stock. If you're thinking four games is way too short, Thomas anticipated this and said, "[MyCareer is] more than four college games, it's a great college experience." So for instance, early on in The Prelude you'll attend your school's own "Midnight Mania" game. More situations like this are peppered throughout MyCareer, the vast majority appearing well beyond what you'll see in The Prelude's small sampling.
One interesting twist on The Prelude is that no matter what, you can only play the mode through one time. It's all or nothing -- if you performance suffers, you might be lucky to be picked up late in the second round. The reason the NBA 2K team did this was so that not everyone ended up being the first pick in the draft come September 20 when the game is released and you connect your MyPlayer to the retail game.
(To clarify: I believe you can indeed do other MyCareer characters if you're unhappy with your first one, but this free version of The Prelude is the one that's a one-time deal.)
MyCareer Retail Version Includes Unique Storylines
Once you are in the retail version of the game, you can enter the NBA Draft to find out where your NBA legacy will begin.
One of the big changes in MyCareer that the development team at 2K Games wanted to make was to allow for more unique storylines to develop in each MyPlayer's story. Thus, instead of everyone living the same scripted storyline like with Frequency Vibrations last year, now you'll be able to play through a series of branching decisions and actions that can lead you down different paths as you develop your own unique legacy of greatness, or perhaps even mediocrity (that'll be my character, at least).
New Schools
This year, players will have a total of 10 schools to sign with, some being repeats, some being new. The schools included are: Oklahoma, Illinois, Georgia Tech, Michigan State (boo!), Wake Forest, UConn, Louisville, Arizona, Georgetown and Kansas.
Prelude Continued, Featuring Kobe Bryant And Michael B. Jordan
When you start The Prelude for the first time, you'll see that it features Kobe Bryant and Michael B. Jordan. From what I recall -- and admittedly this part is a bit hazy as I stopped noting and just enjoyed the show for a few minutes here -- Kobe talks you through some of the basics of MyCareer and what it takes to become a NBA player. Toward the end of this intro montage, Kobe teases that if anyone has a better career than his, he'll have to lace 'em up again.
The NBA 2K17 MyPlayer Backstory
Next, there is a montage of your high school locker room and school hallway, and you're shown some highlights that make up your high school highlight reel at Lower Valley High where you've become a high school All-American. Your highlight reel alone has garnered over one million views.
This montage transitions into you now shooting hoops in your high school gym with your head coach mere days after your senior season's conclusion. You seem to be a happy and confident senior who knows he has a bright basketball future ahead of him. Your coach, who also is aware of your talents and who it's made clear has a very good relationship with you, wants you to stay humble and remember the fundamentals: "I want to see more likes on videos of you making a good chest pass," your coach says (obviously coach doesn't understand how YouTube and Facebook work).
After this scene plays out, MyCareer cuts to a sports show called :24 announcing your choice of college.
Unique MyCareer Starting Points
Next, you're given a choice in terms of the exact starting point where you'd prefer to start your college career. I didn't get a very long look at this screen, but it is just as it sounds, different starting points for your pre-NBA MyCareer player.
In the demo shown to me, your player started during his freshman year at the "Midnight Mania" event. The action started with a loud countdown from your school's passionate fan base as the players began to walk out at midnight to be introduced for the first time, including that hot new All-American freshman -- that would be you.
At this point, the MyCareer montage video stopped, and we began to get glimpses of what else the mode had to offer.
Player Creation Focused on Individualism, MyCareer Expands on RPG Elements
I wasn't exactly clear on when -- whether it's before you start the mode or after you're already a HS All-American -- but at some point you will, like last year, create your player's appearance, play style and the like. We were told that the NBA 2K development team put a lot of focus on individuals, so MyCareer should not be turning into a mode where all people end up being the same kind of player.
Specifically, you'll start by choosing your archetype, such as a "Stretch Big," "Post Scorer," "Paint Protector," etc. You can make five of your play style badges Gold while the other badges you earn will be Bronze (thanks to @Shakedown2012 for tweeting that clarification). These options weren't discussed in too much detail (there was a lot for 2K to cover), and the details covered here are based entirely on the images that were shown during this particular section of the player creation process.
Thomas continued to discuss how MyCareer this year is much more focused on being an RPG as opposed to the same storyline being played through like in NBA 2K16.
Prez, Your Supporting Cast And Getting Closer To The Game
In contrast to this desire for uniqueness, you will be limited to the nickname "Prez," the pre-determined nickname for your character. The reason a nickname is predetermined and used is because it allows for the development team to be more creative and realistic in creating dialogue for the actors, and the like.
Speaking of actors, there are a handful of actors on-board this year for MyCareer, but one that was discussed with some detail is Hannibal Buress' character who runs The Main Street Barbershop. This possibly means new hairstyles, perhaps? It wasn't made clear to me one way or another (yet it was my most frequently asked question on Twitter @mikelowe_OS), but with a strong focus being placed on player uniqueness, I'd be willing to wager this is something we'll see expanded on with NBA 2K17.
In addition, while last year a lot of the MyCareer story was happening off the court -- and there's still some scenes that play out there as well in NBA 2K17 -- this year MyCareer, "takes you much closer to the game of basketball," said Thomas.
Dynamic Duos
Another new twist is you can now control and switch between two characters in what's being called Dynamic Duos. Similar to the system used in Grand Theft Auto V, you'll now have the option to play as two teammates and also make decisions for each character off the court as well. One cool tidbit I saw during this Dynamic Duo gameplay demo were little "tweets" appearing visually over spectators after a dunk during a crowd cut scene simulating the fans actually tweeting out their reaction to a big play.
MyCourt, Doing Work, Deeper Connections, More Endorsements, Tiered Shoe Deals
MyCourts can now include stunning looking murals of, for example, Lakers greats. Like other areas of MyCourt, murals are customizable and are quite impressive looking -- a very nice touch to add to your MyCourt.
Another new feature in MyCareer is "Doing Work" which is a tracking system/meter, inspired by Kobe Bryant while actually in-studio at 2K. Doing Work allows your MyPlayer to go into shootarounds to gain coveted upgrade spots. Instead of maxing out at an 88 or 89 overall, now you can earn these upgrades to increase your overall through Doing Work.
Your MyCareer connections now go deeper and will show up at your MyCourt where you can Do Work with them on drills, and so on. You'll hear a knock at your (virtual) door, and the connection will be there to work with you on a three-pointer mini-game, for instance.
You can choose different time slots to go Do Work, so early morning you might be the only one out on the court, while other times the whole team will be there along with your head coach. You'll also be able to work on your physique and physical attributes by using items around your gym like a bench press.
Lastly, endorsement opportunities for MyCareer this year include Mountain Dew, KIA, Nike, Under Armour, Jordan, Gatorade, Foot Locker, Adidas Tissot, Stance and more. Once you're drafted, you'll have four shoe companies approach you to sign you to a shoe deal. You will have to make a tough decision here though, as not all shoe contracts will be the same -- another example of how each MyCareer experience is different. A tier one shoe contract might unlock just one shoe, where a tier two or tier three deal can unlock an entire shoe catalog.
Note: I reached out to 2K Games on Thursday to inquire about the numerous Twitter questions I had coming in asking about new hairstyles and tattoos. As of Thursday evening, I have not heard back just yet. I will update this thread in the comments below once I have anything to report to you all.