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[The ADD]

The key thing is Performance Enhancing

the posted the pics of Jon with muscle on, not even realizing those pics are before he fought OSP, and he didn't come in that big against him, also he was suppose to fight DC and OSP was last minute, and he didn't test positive then.

When Anderson Silva fought Nick Diaz you could look at his arms and see the difference, he didnt even look like that at 205

it's obvious who's on roids you can tell by their performances.

Hendrick all of a sudden is a completely different fighter, not even remotely close to the physique he had against GSP
something obviously is different, he stopped using.

Rory Mcdonald, lack of aggression, lack of explosion in his movements, completely different fighter, all of a sudden. Obviously stopped using.

Jon Jones physically looked the same he always has against OSP, fought exactly the same. same power, same speed, same everything.

the last person he finished was chael sonnen, so him not finishing OSP is due to his approach to the fight.

If Jon Jones was on steroids, who would be devastating these dudes, break orbital bones, knocking people out, he already his more athletic than his competition so he would seriously hurting people.

Now if Jon Jones was knocking people out, and then all of sudden looked like he did against OSP, you would see a difference in his performance maybe he stopped using because of USADA.

or if knocked OSP in a devastating fashion with a single blow, that would be a departure from what we've seen of his capabilities, and there would be evidence he has enchanced his performance. Or he could've just improved his punching technique, you would still need proof like a positive test to make the connection.

Well that's a short view of Performance Enhancing, blood doping doesn't add muscle but it's still PE.

 

[Roman Brady]

'But the substance that he was on, it was a pill that you take when you're coming off of steroids. But this thing is apparently in other things. Jon took something else.' - Dana

Dana White: 'It's looking like Jon Jones did not' knowingly take drug flagged by USADA

If he gets 6 months for this I wonder if the haters are still going to refer to him as a roider

 

[LinusCaldwell]

Dana now like about his earlier Jones comments. Jones doesn't even like the dude... He really probably doesn't like the dude now

 

[storyteller]

Watching this CM Punk special, I respect dude's work ethic and really goin' for it but he ain't even close to ready in this. I hope this ish was filmed months ago...he's in trouble if not.

 

[Master Teacher]

Well that's a short view of Performance Enhancing, blood doping doesn't add muscle but it's still PE.

Do you even read what I said

I said there was nothing different in his PERFORMANCE

He answered shown increased speed, increased power, increased stamina, key words PERFORMANCE ENHANCING

I didn't say anything about ADDING MUSCLE

Only time a mentioned muscles in my post is when I said people were showing the picture of Jon bulked up as some kind evidence he was doping
so you are basically saying the same thing I said.

They said he tested for estrogen blockers, which could be a wide variety of things, it is a vague description, they didn't name the exact thing, which you can pinpoint where it could've possible came from.

If you drink too much coffee you can test positive for cocaine, doesn't mean you were sniffing lines.

Are yall on here programmed to argue or is it how you get your rocks off

 

[Master Teacher]

Well that's a short view of Performance Enhancing, blood doping doesn't add muscle but it's still PE.

Do you even read what I said

I said there was nothing different in his PERFORMANCE

He answered shown increased speed, increased power, increased stamina, key words PERFORMANCE ENHANCING

I didn't say anything about ADDING MUSCLE, I pointed out that Jon's body looked no different than he always looked.

Only time a mentioned muscles in my post is when I said people were showing the picture of Jon bulked up as some kind evidence he was doping, when he wasn't even fighting and was walking around bigger.
so you are basically saying the same thing I said.

They said he tested for estrogen blockers, which could be a wide variety of things, it is a vague description, they didn't name the exact thing, which you can pinpoint where it could've possible came from.

If you drink too much coffee you can test positive for cocaine, doesn't mean you were sniffing lines.

Are yall on here programmed to argue or is it how you get your rocks off

 

[The ADD]

Do you even read what I said

I said there was nothing different in his PERFORMANCE

He answered shown increased speed, increased power, increased stamina, key words PERFORMANCE ENHANCING

I didn't say anything about ADDING MUSCLE, I pointed out that Jon's body looked no different than he always looked.

Only time a mentioned muscles in my post is when I said people were showing the picture of Jon bulked up as some kind evidence he was doping, when he wasn't even fighting and was walking around bigger.
so you are basically saying the same thing I said.

They said he tested for estrogen blockers, which could be a wide variety of things, it is a vague description, they didn't name the exact thing, which you can pinpoint where it could've possible came from.

If you drink too much coffee you can test positive for cocaine, doesn't mean you were sniffing lines.

Are yall on here programmed to argue or is it how you get your rocks off

I read just fine.

You made mention of Andy and Hendrix's physiques so implying you meant muscle isn't a far reach. If you are going to say you didn't say muscle in terms of them then feel free to hang on to that ledge.

The fact remains you have a myopic view of what PE means. If you take something banned that helps you recover easier that allows you to practice more than that can and does fall into the PE category. How you execute on the night of the fight isn't the standard for PE.

 

[Master Teacher]

I read just fine.

You made mention of Andy and Hendrix's physiques so implying you meant muscle isn't a far reach. If you are going to say you didn't say muscle in terms of them then feel free to hang on to that ledge.

The fact remains you have a myopic view of what PE means. If you take something banned that helps you recover easier that allows you to practice more than that can and does fall into the PE category. How you execute on the night of the fight isn't the standard for PE.

I mention Anderson's physique because it's changed.
his arms are larger and looked weird, he didn't look like that for the fights after Diaz either.
It's a clear sign, he got popped for D bol it was obvious because of the drastic change in his physique, its obvious he took it to help recover from his leg

Hendricks body deflated all of a sudden, he lost explosion in his movements, you see a clear difference in his ability all of sudden, it's obvious he stopped using something

That's what I pointed out. If you take PEDS and train to gain muscle, you will gain muscle, if you train for stamina you will enhanced stamina, if you train for speed, you will get enhanced speed.

There's no evidence of Jon Jones in cage performances. I just pointing out clear cases where you can see the difference in the person's performance.

There is a clear difference with Vitor witout roids and without it, night and day

It doesn't take a rocket scientist

Jon Jones looks the same as he did before he was even in the UFC the way he moves the way performs, it's consistent.

If he took PEDS there would be a huge leap in his perfomances, he's already more dangerous than his opponents, he would be wiping guys out.

It's just a fact of reality.

 

[LinusCaldwell]

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[THEREALBRAND]

Watching this CM Punk special, I respect dude's work ethic and really goin' for it but he ain't even close to ready in this. I hope this ish was filmed months ago...he's in trouble if not.

I respect anybody that's chasing their dreams. But given his level of experience Punk should be fighting, an inexperienced 35 year-old family man with a real job, in a rec center on a Saturday morning. It's criminal that the fight even got sanctioned. I hope Herb Dean or somebody that isn't scared to stop a fight early is reffing, because Gall might really hurt that boy.

 

[curz]

Pretty dope Shad interview, gets really deep. Lowkey Stann is the best interviewer in the biz.

 

[joeychizzle]

I think Teixeira is either gonna sub Johnson or Johnson is gonna slump Teixera. Or it'll be a back and forth affair like Kongo VS Barry :goddamnisaygoddamnmayne:

 

[8====D]

I think Teixeira is either gonna sub Johnson or Johnson is gonna slump Teixera. Or it'll be a back and forth affair like Kongo VS Barry :goddamnisaygoddamnmayne:

Rumble deserves this

 

[RubioTheCruel]

Alvarez vs the winner of Diaz/McGregor II?

I'm guessing this is the plan(with UFC hoping McGregor wins). I don't see any way Conor ever fights another bout at 145.

On another note, Khabib's twitter is pure fukkery

 

[LinusCaldwell]

I'm guessing this is the plan(with UFC hoping McGregor wins). I don't see any way Conor ever fights another bout at 145.

On another note, Khabib's twitter is pure fukkery

Smh so Khabib can't get a title fight or RDA? Who fights RDA now? Khabib should steam roll Edson