Essential The Official MMA Thread

[Mr.Logic]

How the fukk is Lawler a tougher fight than Bispring??

Bispring punches harder, is bigger and stronger, has better movement, has a higher fight IQ

Yall gotta be fukking kidding me with this shyt

GSP has almost a zero percent chance of beating Bispring without wrestling. He could definitely circle around Lawler and pick him apart for 5 rounds if he wanted to.

Lawler just puts his face out there and moves forward in straight line...GSP wll jab him to DEATH...

Lawler is slow with very little production...Carlos Condit out-struck him by a pretty wide margin...

Lawler been SLUMPED by Nick Diaz " a type weak puncher"...

 

[Mr.Logic]

I agree with Dana, that was a b*tch move...

 

[curz]

Lawler just puts his face out there and moves forward in straight line...GSP wll jab him to DEATH...

Lawler is slow with very little production...Carlos Condit out-struck him by a pretty wide margin...

Lawler been SLUMPED by Nick Diaz " a type weak puncher"...

nikkas hate Bispring so much they disregard his skills

Meanwhile these same people gas up guys like Cerrone

 

[Mr.Logic]

nikkas hate Bispring so much they disregard his skills

Meanwhile these same people gas up guys like Cerrone

Which doesn't make sense...When you look at Bisping's professional career, I think he has the same percentage of wins as Anderson Silva, about 80%...Anderson has a 60% finish rate, and Bisping has a 55% finish rate...

Michael Bisping is a Higher Echelon fighter...Dude's numbers are COMPARABLE to the GOAT...Plus, I think Michael Bisping fought less bums than Anderson Silva (not to take anything from Silva, he did his thing)...

So, the Bisping hate is baseless...It is NOT supported by the numbers, and in fighting the numbers hold MAJOR weight, because there is no one to save you inside the Octagon except the referee...

 

[Guy Incognito]

Which doesn't make sense...When you look at Bisping's professional career, I think he has the same percentage of wins as Anderson Silva, about 80%...Anderson has a 60% finish rate, and Bisping has a 55% finish rate...

Michael Bisping is a Higher Echelon fighter...Dude's numbers are COMPARABLE to the GOAT...Plus, I think Michael Bisping fought less bums than Anderson Silva (not to take anything from Silva, he did his thing)...

So, the Bisping hate is baseless...It is NOT supported by the numbers, and in fighting the numbers hold MAJOR weight, because there is no one to save you inside the Octagon except the referee...

get the fukk outta here with your bullshyt ass post

 

[Mr.Logic]

get the fukk outta here with your bullshyt ass post

I am NOT making this up, this is EMPIRICAL EVIDENCE not EMOTIONAL REACTION...

If Bisping is not as good as Silva, how do you explain their similar numbers?

 

[Amare's Right Hook]

Nevermind, new contract

 

[Amare's Right Hook]

Riri and Connor

 

[The Infamous]

According to Meltzer and TMZ, Zuffa is still looking at both offers and a deal has not been finalized. TMZ is saying there is still a chance Zuffa ends up not selling the UFC.

 

[Triangularbirds]

If Bisping is not as good as Silva, how do you explain their similar numbers?

I'd like to see Bisping's title defense streak numbers please, or just winstreak numbers compared to Silva's.

I'll be waiting, thanks.

 

[jackswstd]

According to Meltzer and TMZ, Zuffa is still looking at both offers and a deal has not been finalized. TMZ is saying there is still a chance Zuffa ends up not selling the UFC.

It's a risky move on their part. Owning an NFL team is a different beast than owning the UFC so it's only natural there would be some trepidation.

 

[FaTaL]

It's a risky move on their part. Owning an NFL team is a different beast than owning the UFC so it's only natural there would be some trepidation.

do they have a arrangement with the nfl or something? getting a nfl team is very difficult even if you have lots of money

 

[jackswstd]

do they have a arrangement with the nfl or something? getting a nfl team is very difficult even if you have lots of money

As far as I know no. Everyone was saying they're selling because they want an NFL team.

 

[The ADD]

As far as I know no. Everyone was saying they're selling because they want an NFL team.

The way it stands now they would have to divest in the casino business. Not sure how that would work.

 

[Mr.Logic]

I'd like to see Bisping's title defense streak numbers please, or just winstreak numbers compared to Silva's.
I'll be waiting, thanks.

(1) You are just picking a statistic that favors Silva, but that statistic is NOT a good one to compare fighters...

(2) Anderson Silva was given a title fight after 1 win in the UFC against Chris Leben...He won the title from Rich Franklin and defended it 10 times...40% of those title defenses were against 2 fighters, Rich Franklin (2) and Chael Sonnen (2)...

And then He was beaten CONVINCINGLY twice by Chris Weidman...

(3) Anderson Silva vs Chael Sonnen 1 is the reason why I started watching the UFC, and I fcuks with Silva (he is the reason I started following the UFC)...However, I am not going to let that blind me to his suspect record...

(4) Max Halloway is on a 9 fight win streak against Top 10 opponents, when is he going to get a title fight? Silva got one after beating Chris Leben...1 fight...Could Silva had gone 9 fights against all the Top 10s before a title shot? We will never know...

What is the point? Winning streaks and title defenses don't mean sh@t because opponents are careful selected based on the personalities the fans like and the story-lines the UFC can sell...Therefore, not all winning streaks are equal...

(5) Here is another reason why winning streak is not a good statistic in fighting...Chris Weidman CONVINCINGLY beat Anderson Silva twice...He is better than Anderson Silva regardless of what Silva's winning streak and title defenses indicate...

Silva can beat as many consecutive guys as the UFC selects for him and he agrees to fight, but when he faces Weidman, that streak will STOP...And if he faces Weidman first, he will not even have a 2 fight winning streak...

(6) Conclusion, I would NOT select winning streaks and title defenses as a measuring stick, because not all fighters get title shots the same way, and fighters with long winning streaks have consistently been beaten by fighters with shorter wining streaks...

The best way is to make the fight and see who wins...If we can't make the fight, then we have to look at the overall record in the promotional division...

Silva and Bisping have VERY SIMILAR overall records, therefore, I DO NOT believe that Silva is that much better than Bisping...I think match-making is a BIGGER determinant of winning streaks than the fighter's actually skill...

Case in point, you give Silva Weidman first, and there is PROBABLY no winning streak for Silva...He loses that fight 9/10 times...Easily...This has been proven...