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[The Infamous]

sure he was thats why when he got to america (where they actually test) his physique practically stayed the same and his career didnt skip a beat. Whereas all the so called pride greats all suddenly floundered

He was on TRT. Nice try.

 

[Roman Brady]

He was on TRT. Nice try.

you got receipts for that

 

[The Infamous]

you got receipts for that

http://www.sherdog.com/news/news/Rampage-Jackson-Not-Apologizing-for-Testosterone-Use-41203
http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2012/3/1...-jackson-testosterone-replacement-therapy-trt

 

[Roman Brady]

http://www.sherdog.com/news/news/Rampage-Jackson-Not-Apologizing-for-Testosterone-Use-41203
http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2012/3/1...-jackson-testosterone-replacement-therapy-trt

we are talking about pride, him using TRT that zuffa paid for could be down to anything from laziness, legitimately needing it due to health issues and or pass steroid usage

 

[The Infamous]

we are talking about pride, him using TRT that zuffa paid for could be down to anything from laziness, legitimately needing it due to health issues and or pass steroid usage

If a top athlete is using TRT it's because of past PED use.
Laziness? Legitimate health issues?

 

[Roman Brady]

If a top athlete is using TRT it's because of past PED use.
Laziness? Legitimate health issues?

yeaaaaah? there is a drug problem in mma and many have the "well everyone else is doing it" take on it.You never read the statistics of testosterone dropping significantly in your 30s? k

 

[The Infamous]

yeaaaaah? there is a drug problem in mma and many have the "well everyone else is doing it" take on it.You never read the statistics of testosterone dropping significantly in your 30s? k

Dropping significantly after 30? It drops 1-2% per year after the age of 40 (source is in the video below). That is a very small amount.

Here is Dr. Craig Perlman (certified Endocrinologist) talking about TRT in MMA:



He says the odds of fighters being legitimately on TRT for medically reasons is extremely low. Top athlete with low testosterone (very likely) means past PED use.

 

[The Infamous]

'But but but Testosterone drops significantly in your 30s'

'But but but it can be due to laziness'

 

[The Infamous]

If you want to give Dr. Don Catlin a laugh, ask him what he thinks of the use of therapeutic-use exemptions (TUEs) for testosterone in the sport of mixed martial arts. Ask the 73-year-old anti-doping pioneer and International Olympic Committee member if he thinks there’s ever a situation where pro fighters -- even those in their 40s -- should be given permission to use testosterone, and then sit back and listen to his low chuckling response.

"That’s a joke," Catlin laughed. "Forget it. It’s a joke."

The IOC has tested over 10,000 athletes and has only given out two TRT exemptions. One of them was to an athlete who had no testicles.

I think in all the years I’ve done it, we’ve given two. One was a kid who didn’t have any testicles because he had a terrible accident ten years ago or something. It just doesn’t happen."

http://www.mmafighting.com/2012/2/1...-some-experts-say-were-not-fighting-the-right

 

[Roman Brady]

'But but but Testosterone drops significantly in your 30s'

'But but but it can be due to laziness'

was rampage a gym rat? Yeah laziness in the sense of cutting corners to gain an athletic edge to compete with the pack. What do you think the quote "well everyone is doing it" was about Or can't you read

 

[Roman Brady]

Dropping significantly after 30? It drops 1-2% per year after the age of 40 (source is in the video below). That is a very small amount.

Here is Dr. Craig Perlman (certified Endocrinologist) talking about TRT in MMA:



He says the odds of fighters being legitimately on TRT for medically reasons is extremely low. Top athlete with low testosterone (very likely) means past PED use.

That's just one dudes assessment every Dr has their take
http://www.healthline.com/health-slideshow/low-testosterone-causes

 

[The Infamous]

That's just one dudes assessment every Dr has their take
http://www.healthline.com/health-slideshow/low-testosterone-causes

Practically every doctor/medical professional will tell you that low T levels for a professional athletes is very, very likely due to past PED use. It isn't a matter of assessment or opinion. Get out of here with that bullshyt

 

[The Infamous]

That's just one dudes assessment every Dr has their take
http://www.healthline.com/health-slideshow/low-testosterone-causes

Older men (over 65 years of age) primarily suffer from low T. NOT professional athletes. They wouldn't be professional athletes if they legitimately suffered from Hypogonadism (causes low T).

You can't be this dumb.

 

[The Infamous]

If you want to give Dr. Don Catlin a laugh, ask him what he thinks of the use of therapeutic-use exemptions (TUEs) for testosterone in the sport of mixed martial arts. Ask the 73-year-old anti-doping pioneer and International Olympic Committee member if he thinks there’s ever a situation where pro fighters -- even those in their 40s -- should be given permission to use testosterone, and then sit back and listen to his low chuckling response.

"That’s a joke," Catlin laughed. "Forget it. It’s a joke."

The IOC has tested over 10,000 athletes and has only given out two TRT exemptions. One of them was to an athlete who had no testicles.

I think in all the years I’ve done it, we’ve given two. One was a kid who didn’t have any testicles because he had a terrible accident ten years ago or something. It just doesn’t happen."

http://www.mmafighting.com/2012/2/1...-some-experts-say-were-not-fighting-the-right

@Roman Brady, Still waiting for a response to this post.

 

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