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[jackswstd]

Honda and Cat passed their drug tests.

 

[Amare's Right Hook]

Honda and Cat passed their drug tests.

Ready for UPS

 

[krackdagawd]

MMA fight between a 6 & 7 year old:

 

[Kenny West]

The HW division is absolutely pathetic. If Arlovski beats Browne, he's the most deserving contender for the title. You cannot name a more deserving fighter.

What about JDS? If Werdum beats Cain (big IF) another win should be enough.

But if Werdum loses might as well let Cain maul AA

 

[jackswstd]

All these fighters throwing shots at the GOAT better hope they're clean as a whistle.

 

[blackestofpanthers]

All these fighters throwing shots at the GOAT better hope they're clean as a whistle.

People throwing shots at jon jones?

 

[jackswstd]

People throwing shots at jon jones?

I meant Anderson

 

[blackestofpanthers]

I meant Anderson

He's no GOAT. Not his fault but he reigned during a weak middleweight era. Jon jones has a better resume already.

 

[jackswstd]

He's no GOAT. Not his fault but he reigned during a weak middleweight era. Jon jones has a better resume already.

when his career is over we can argue about it. Jones ain't done yet.

 

[Amare's Right Hook]

Uchi Mata

 

[blackestofpanthers]

when his career is over we can argue about it. Jones ain't done yet.

Already has the greater resume
He doesn't need to be done to know he is greater. When someone has been surpassed then that's it. Especially once jones beats rumble it won't be any question about who is the GOAT.
No idea why people are so reluctant to give jones the GOAT status when he has the resume even though he is fairly young, yet a lot of mma people will argue in different situations about how the sport is so young. The sport is so young therefore GOATs can change within 6 years.

 

[The Infamous]

Anderson's statement regarding his failed drug test:

IN RESPECT TO MY FANS

I will not say anything about who I am or what I went through to get here. What matters to me now is the respect from those who have followed my career. I bled, struggled and fought because I love it and because I always wanted to honor the flag of the country I love so much. I don't know what to apologize for, because I am still waiting for the results and analysis from the specialists that are working to reveal the truth. Everything that I took since my injury are being analyzed. I look for the truth as much as all those who were surprised with the results. I always played clean, I was never a cheater. In eighteen years of my career, I never had a problem with exams. In and out of the Octagon I never slipped in compliance with the principles that always guided me.
With much honor and dignity I defended my country where ever I fought. I never used any substances to better my performance in my fights. I love what I do and I would never risk what I took so long to build. I think that the hurry some people have to condemn me is unfair. The time it takes to destroy a reputation is infinitely less than that is taken to build it. I am the one who is most eager to settle this situation. I want those who have always supported me to know that I am still fighting for all the sad happenings of this situation to be cleared.

 

[Roman Brady]

Already has the greater resume
He doesn't need to be done to know he is greater. When someone has been surpassed then that's it. Especially once jones beats rumble it won't be any question about who is the GOAT.
No idea why people are so reluctant to give jones the GOAT status when he has the resume even though he is fairly young, yet a lot of mma people will argue in different situations about how the sport is so young. The sport is so young therefore GOATs can change within 6 years.

one underlining reason could be style points, you ever heard of the big O? Not the anime the baller Oscar robertson? To my knowledge he was statistically better than Jordan but guess who everyone will remember? Very much like stuncan Robertson was very workman like and just got his but it was very mechanical. Whereas when jordan was on court he was like poetry in motion. Anderson falls into the latter dude was like a ballet dancer out there and he called his shots too. Sometimes Jones looks really gangly and awkward though it breds results its just not like water for chocolate and can look flukey. So while an arguement could made that Jones is the most complete fighter I am not ready to say GOAT just yet just my 2 cents. Maybe when his reign clocks 7years +

 

[blackestofpanthers]

one underlining reason could be style points, you ever heard of the big O? Not the anime the baller Oscar robertson? To my knowledge he was statistically better than Jordan but guess who everyone will remember? Very much like stuncan Robertson was very workman like and just got his but it was very mechanical. Whereas when jordan was on court he was like poetry in motion. Anderson falls into the latter dude was like a ballet dancer out there and he called his shots too. Sometimes Jones looks really gangly and awkward though it needs results it's just not like water for chocolate, just my 2 cents

I don't rate jordan higher than oscar. I don't think much of jordan at all . The Anderson and jordan comparison is spot on when you realize both won in weak eras/divisions. Jordan won in the expansion era and after magic got hiv, kareem retired, bird was old and hurt, isiah and the pistons weren't the same. Anderson dominated a very weak middleweight division.
Also jones just has the much better resume, it really isn't close. If anderson didn't choke and lose in pride and actually fought a prime hughes then I'd rank him higher.

 

[Roman Brady]

I don't rate jordan higher than oscar. I don't think much of jordan at all . The Anderson and jordan comparison is spot on when you realize both won in weak eras/divisions. Jordan won in the expansion era and after magic got hiv, kareem retired, bird was old and hurt, isiah and the pistons weren't the same. Anderson dominated a very weak middleweight division.
Also jones just has the much better resume, it really isn't close. If anderson didn't choke and lose in pride and actually fought a prime hughes then I'd rank him higher.

I like your consistency but I wasn't trying to change your mind just shedding light on a reason why many are reluctant to hand Jones the keys.

But for arguement sake isn't that (Jordan) weak era statement a myth? Yeah Kareem, bird and magic got old but the league had a plethora of legends. Malone, Stockton, dream, Shaq, barkley and so on. All a team needed was 1 or 2 of these with serviceable Kenny Smith types and you were set. The individual talent you could build a team around was too rich for that era to be called weak. Championships won in a weak era would've been San An 99, kobe/shaq Lakers 3peat and Detroit's pistons in 04.


Ppl say Silva dominated a weak division but did he not dominate lhws too? Did he often go the distance against lesser talents like erm someone else? Were the sonnens,marquarts,lutters,hendos and so not stylistic nightmares to the wrestling averse anderson? Facts like that tell a bigger story than rankings or facing xchamps, in this case he faced ranked fighters with stylistic advantages that were ex/champions

Ps when has the division been live? Franklin's time? Are we going to use now where the division's champion is feasting on opponents at the avg age of 35? Before gus Jones's reign was largely won on the backs of a Quinton, machida, shogun, vitor, Rashad, the youngest here being the last guy who was 33. Did the LHW division not get old?