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I think they did, its just that the "base" would not have supported them. ANY moderate on the Republican ticket could beat Obama.

So why is formerly moderate Romney losing? You just disproved your own point, how can you win if your base won't support you? Any Republican would have had to veer right.
 

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So why is formerly moderate Romney losing? You just proved your own point, how can you win if your base won't support you? Any Republican would have had to veer right.
I don't think Romney's a moderate. The views he expressed at that private fundraiser were from 2011, I believe. I don't think there was any base pressure then. Dude really believed that shyt... and thus is not a moderate IMO.
 

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So why is formerly moderate Romney losing? You just proved your own point, how can you win if your base won't support you? Any Republican would have had to veer right.

Couple of reasons:

1. Romney himself is an AWFUL candidate and comes off as a snobby rich guy that can't relate to normal people. He doesn't have half the charisma of Obama.

2. He's pretending to be farther right than he really is. If you look at how he was as governor (pro-choice, believed in global warming, set up socialized healthcare, moderate on economic issues) he was a completely different politician. He let his base drag him so far right that he doesn't appeal to moderates. I don't think he really had to.

3. Being a Mormon makes it harder for him to appeal to the evangelical wing of his party.

4. He panders to Neocons. The problem with that is that most people remember how bad the war in Iraq went and don't really want a war with Iran (or anybody else).

5. Again, he unnecessarily lets the base force him to take hardline anti-immigration positions, which hurt his chances with the Latino vote. That's an increasingly important demographic.

Strictly speaking though, this election should've been an easy one for the GOP just based on the unemployment rate. Historically, the incumbent pretty much always loses if the unemployment rate is over 7.5% or so. Obama may be the first president to win despite unemployment being >8%.
 

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So why is formerly moderate Romney losing? You just proved your own point, how can you win if your base won't support you? Any Republican would have had to veer right.
Same thing I was thinking. Barack is about to take down moderate Mitt like he took down moderate McCain. John Huntsman couldn't beat Obama either. Those are the only moderate Republicans I can name...

The republican party is fractured and broken and racist. Until they fix that they will never win another national election unless the Dems fukk up royally...
 

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Same thing I was thinking. Barack is about to take down moderate Mitt like he took down moderate McCain. John Huntsman couldn't beat Obama either. Those are the only moderate Republicans I can name...

The republican party is fractured and broken and racist. Until they fix that they will never win another national election unless the Dems fukk up royally...

Do you think the GOP would return to sanity quickly in a presidential race and get behind a moderate if the Dems nominate a middle aged white guy next time? Just curious.
 

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Do you think the GOP would return to sanity quickly in a presidential race and get behind a moderate if the Dems nominate a middle aged white guy next time? Just curious.
Hmmm interesting point. Like if Clinton was running again would the GOP have to "act normal" and toss out all the Tea Party bullsh!t? Like their violent reaction to the black president made them lose their minds?

To be honest, probably. As long as the candidate wasn't some crazy old hippie or a Kennedy or something, it would have to be an intellectual debate instead of an emotional one...
 

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Do you think the GOP would return to sanity quickly in a presidential race and get behind a moderate if the Dems nominate a middle aged white guy next time? Just curious.

Excellent question
 

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Hmmm interesting point. Like if Clinton was running again would the GOP have to "act normal" and toss out all the Tea Party bullsh!t? Like their violent reaction to the black president made them lose their minds?

To be honest, probably. As long as the candidate wasn't some crazy old hippie or a Kennedy or something, it would have to be an intellectual debate instead of an emotional one...

Yeah like the emotions and hate will still run pretty high if the Dems go with Hillary. But if they go Biden or Andrew Cuomo or something probably not.
I think BO Art of Warred Romney early by passing a healthcare bill modeled after his and by only proposing job programs traditionally that have had bipartisan support. Now they look stupid calling BO a socialist and foreign. It seemed smart when he was just doing healthcare early in his 1st term, but BO was thinking long range to this election.
 

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Hmmm interesting point. Like if Clinton was running again would the GOP have to "act normal" and toss out all the Tea Party bullsh!t? Like their violent reaction to the black president made them lose their minds?

To be honest, probably. As long as the candidate wasn't some crazy old hippie or a Kennedy or something, it would have to be an intellectual debate instead of an emotional one...
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