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The OFFICIAL MICHIGAN TEAM 136 THREAD: THE CONQUERING HEROES
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there will be more. more transfers. there's always a handful at the start
Ed MOTHEREFFING G
Chances make champions
damn he was over at Spice tree, braeburn, and international coppin rocks then going to practice
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Coli Prophet
Just made the DJ Durkin hire official ..
And Wheatley's supposedly interviewing right now ...
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Hail!!
http://www.mlive.com/wolverines/index.ssf/2015/01/jim_harbaugh_will_begin_creati.html
Absolute must fukking read these kids are in for wake up call
ANN ARBOR -- At first, older players on the roster thought it was all a bit ridiculous.
Jim Harbaugh had just taken over Stanford's football program in 2007, and suddenly, the team was being judged on an entirely different level.
On an absurd level.
Everything was charted. Everything was out in the open. If a player underperformed in a lifting drill, it was plastered on the walls of the locker room for everyone to see. Slacked off on a sprinting exercise? Same thing.
There was nowhere to hide, and no one really knew why.
And then, they figured it out.
"It all started in winter conditioning, two guys would go through the same drill at the same time and every single drill we did in winter conditioning had a winner and a loser," says Ben Muth, who was an all-conference offensive tackle for Harbaugh at Stanford. "And they'd post those stats in the locker room, and they'd be there for everyone to see. It'd be, 'hey, these guys are winning, these guys are losing. Where are you?'
"For some guys it was a big shock. The default answer was 'oh, this is stupid, it's a 20-yard shuttle, so what if I lost it?' Well, that's why we won one game the year before. Oh, a 20-yard shuttle doesn't matter? Well, when we're down 17 to Oregon State, maybe you realized it all mattered."
For Michigan, this process will begin at some point this week, when Harbaugh puts forth his winter conditioning plan to prior to the start of spring practice.
But once practices begin, the competition only increases.
At Stanford, Harbaugh broke down practice film in conventional ways, and then went back and did so again in non-conventional ways. He charted every special teams drill, the stuff no one wants to do. He logged participation numbers for each player.
And once again, he tossed them up on the walls of the locker room for everyone to see. If you were slacking, or choosing to sit out a drill, everyone knew it.
It was one of many motivational tactics, and it worked.
"We didn't have like a line where you'd line up and be next in line (for a special teams drill), it would be one of those 'get in there when you wanted to go' type things," Muth recalls. "And then two weeks later, he posts this list with how many special teams drills you competed in. He didn't tell anyone he was going to do that. But it was a message of 'these guys want to be out there practicing and getting better.'
"And it was obvious. Some guys were hanging in the back, they didn't want to take those reps. But he started keeping track of random stuff like that, and guys noticed."
At Stanford, Harbaugh had strength and conditioning coach Shannon Turley put the players through his workout regiment during the offseason, as coaches are not allowed to have on-field contact with players during that time. Over the weekend, Harbaugh made a push at Turley, but the well-respected trainer ultimately opted to remain at Stanford -- where he's been for the past eight years.
Harbaugh still has to assemble an official strength and conditioning staff, but at the same time, the workout culture and the constant, never-ending competition in every corner of practice all comes from the head coach's mind.
He tells his players he's never been sick a day in his life. He says he never takes off major holidays. He insists he drank more milk during his formative years than any other person in recorded history. He once told a player he used to time himself while tying his shoes in the locker room, because he never wanted to be late to practice.
"I mean, hell, the guy was sick at his press conference the other day, I saw it," Muth laughs. "But if you ask him in a year, 'when was the last time you were sick,' he wouldn't tell you 'the Michigan press conference.'
"He just believes this stuff."
At first, all of this seems insane. But after a while, former players say this relentless behavior starts to rub off. The players who learn quicker see the field, the ones who don't sit the bench.
Period.
"He demanded competing with everything we did, and when I say everything, I mean absolutely everything," says J.T. Rogan, who played running back for Harbaugh at San Diego. "If your shirt was untucked, if you could've gotten to your next rep quicker, he found out. And he'd make some sort of odd comment about it, and you'd notice. And he just hammers this stuff, and he lives it.
"And he's looking for that blowback. You see those really talented guys who are skating by, and then you get the guys who aren't really talented and skating by. And he looks for those guys right away. The 'locker room lawyers,' those guys who say the 'oh, he told us we only had four sprints left and we had to do four more, what the heck?' He finds those guys, and he goes after them. ... He wants to build that mental resolve and toughness. And by the time he was done with us, I can honestly tell you we were in a place where we never thought we'd lose a game."
Part of Harbaugh's initial mission when he takes a job is to hammer this culture into the brains of his players. He anticipates resistance, and has a counter for it.
He wants players to compete. He singles out winners, and he singles out losers. He keeps detailed lists of how much each player has improved year-over-year in specific drills, exercises and random non-game statistics. So if a player comes to him upset he's not playing more, Harbaugh simply points to his chart let's it talk for him.
Former players say the constant push for competition drives everyone in the locker room to ultimately get themselves on Harbaugh's 'winners' list.
And once that's achieved, on-field victories begin to roll in.
"We had a team meeting once and he told us 'you guys are all on my team and I love you all, but there will always be a special spot in my heart for those of you who perform on the field on Saturday,' " Muth recalls. "That might come off as favoritism, but when you're in there, it was the truth. He played favorites to the guys who worked the hardest and performed the best. And he didn't hide it. He treated people the way they deserved. If you worked and were accountable, he respected you and you got more of a leash. But if you weren't, he held you accountable and he'd push you to be accountable."
"Some of the guys who had been there a while brushed it off at first, 'this is stupid, it's pointless' or whatever.' But some guys, they were like, 'well, hell, I don't want to be the low man on the point board.' They went to work. And we started winning."
And with that I'm assuming spring game is gonna be either Apr 11 or 18, I just took off both. I hope it's gonna be the 18th tho then I could swing by Denver to check out the scene
the 20th should be hot
Maizeandbluekid
Early 2010's OG
You get the feeling that Harbaugh will re-install the mentality that has been sorely missing for years. It's a mentality that Bo employed that, in the words of John U. Bacon was like this:
"I will treat you all the same... like dogs!"
Lookin' forward to it.
"I will treat you all the same... like dogs!"
Lookin' forward to it.
NigerianDonDada
FFOE
the staff Harbaugh is putting together is just 
I ate at that red robin a week ago
Signed, Sealed, Delivered.
Should be announced tomorrow morning.
GOAT staff is being assembled
HNIC973
R.I.P Bandana P
ANN ARBOR -- Just about anybody who has been around Jim Harbaugh and D.J. Durkin long enough has heard about the basketball story.
During his time at Stanford, Harbaugh hit the basketball court with his young defensive ends coach -- 15 years his junior -- for a friendly game of one-on-one.
About 90 minutes later, the friendliness stopped and the blood started pouring.
Elbows. Shoves. Forearms. Shoulders. Just about everything but actual, you know, basketball.
"It took like an hour and a half, and it ended 4-3 or whatever," recalls former Stanford offensive tackle Ben Muth. "Neither of them would call a foul. Someone did in the first five minutes, the other guy made fun of him, so it was on from there.
"It was like that James Caan 'Rollerball' movie, basically a fight to the death."
Whether or not Durkin is bringing his blood-soaked sneakers with him to Ann Arbor remains to be seen, but the fiery Youngstown, Ohio native who -- like his old coaching mentor -- lives on energy and intensity is, in fact, bringing his coaching whistle and recruiting hat with him to Michigan.
A source close to the situation confirmed Tuesday afternoon that Durkin will in fact be a member of Harbaugh's coaching staff next year. Michigan has not made any hire official at this point, though Scout.com and 247sports report that Durkin will serve as Harbaugh's defensive coordinator.
Additionally, Sports Illustrated confirmed that Greg Mattison -- Brady Hoke's defensive coordinator over the past four seasons -- has agreed to stay on Harbaugh's staff and work under Durkin. Mattison has been recruiting for the Wolverines since Harbaugh was hired, and has consistently told recruits he plans to be in Ann Arbor in 2015.
As for Durkin? He's just 36, but he's already packed in plenty of high-level coaching experience with some of the top minds in the game. He was a graduate assistant for Urban Meyer at Bowling Green -- his alma mater -- from 2001-02. He joined Harbaugh in 2007 and remained at Stanford for three seasons, coaching defensive ends and special teams.
Meyer hired Durkin back at Florida in 2010, and two years later -- with Will Muschamp at the helm -- Durkin was promoted to defensive coordinator, leading the Gators to a top 10 national ranking in total defense.
How was he able to rise so fast?
He never stops.
"He always found a way," Muth recalls. "We really didn't have much speed out there at all at Stanford early on, and he still found a way to put together some really solid special teams groups.
"And we had some good position coaches. Our defensive line coach (Lance Anderson), our offensive line coaches (Chris Dalman, Tim Drevno), David Shaw. All obviously really good. But Durkin, he might've been the best position coach we had."
The year before Durkin got to Stanford with Harbaugh (2006), the Cardinal had 14 sacks as a team. Two years later, Stanford registered 33 sacks. Durkin unleashed eventual Cardinal star Shayne Skov on special teams, where he created enough havoc to eventually break in as a starting linebacker.
And while Muschamp certainly gets plenty of credit for his efforts as a defensive mind at Florida, Durkin's Gator defense was a top 10 unit in 2013 and a top 10 unit again, prior to postseason play, in 2014.
He also served as the team's interim head coach once Muschamp was fired. New Gators coach Jim McElwain opted not to keep Durkin, and a handful of players weren't exactly thrilled.
"I think he's an amazing coach," safety Keanu Neal told The Gainesville Sun last month. "I hate that he's leaving, but it is what it is, it's part of the business. But he's been the same. He's been coaching his tail off, like he would have if he had a job. I'm surprised that he's doing that. He's really doing a good job."
Harbaugh's known as an intense coach, and so is Durkin. It's his calling card, both on the field and off it.
He's had success developing players and calling defenses, but he's been a high-level recruiter for years -- in multiple regions of the country.
"I know he takes care of his players on and off the field, he's a great guy at heart," says four-star 2015 linebacker Roquan Smith, a Georgia native who will take a visit to Michigan -- because Durkin's there. "He's great at developing guys and doing all he can for them, I know that."
Durkin was named the national recruiter of the year by Rivals.com in 2012. That season alone, he was credited with signing five Top250 prospects, including a pair of five-star players. At Stanford, he was credited for recruiting eventual NFL players Trent Murphy and Ben Gardner during his final season.
On Tuesday, shortly after word of his hire broke, Durkin reportedly offered South Carolina pledge Damon Arnette,secured a visit from Smith and spoke with Louisiana defensive end Jalen Bates.
He's recruited the west coast, the southeast and the midwest.
And more often than not, he does it like Harbaugh: With great intensity.
"There's a reason why (Harbaugh) goes back to the well to get assistants on his old staffs," said former San Diego star and Stanford staffer J.T. Rogan. "He's always trying to surround himself with the best, the brightest and the smartest people.
"He keeps tabs on all of that stuff."
http://www.mlive.com/wolverines/index.ssf/2015/01/dj_durkin.html
During his time at Stanford, Harbaugh hit the basketball court with his young defensive ends coach -- 15 years his junior -- for a friendly game of one-on-one.
About 90 minutes later, the friendliness stopped and the blood started pouring.
Elbows. Shoves. Forearms. Shoulders. Just about everything but actual, you know, basketball.
"It took like an hour and a half, and it ended 4-3 or whatever," recalls former Stanford offensive tackle Ben Muth. "Neither of them would call a foul. Someone did in the first five minutes, the other guy made fun of him, so it was on from there.
"It was like that James Caan 'Rollerball' movie, basically a fight to the death."
Whether or not Durkin is bringing his blood-soaked sneakers with him to Ann Arbor remains to be seen, but the fiery Youngstown, Ohio native who -- like his old coaching mentor -- lives on energy and intensity is, in fact, bringing his coaching whistle and recruiting hat with him to Michigan.
A source close to the situation confirmed Tuesday afternoon that Durkin will in fact be a member of Harbaugh's coaching staff next year. Michigan has not made any hire official at this point, though Scout.com and 247sports report that Durkin will serve as Harbaugh's defensive coordinator.
Additionally, Sports Illustrated confirmed that Greg Mattison -- Brady Hoke's defensive coordinator over the past four seasons -- has agreed to stay on Harbaugh's staff and work under Durkin. Mattison has been recruiting for the Wolverines since Harbaugh was hired, and has consistently told recruits he plans to be in Ann Arbor in 2015.
As for Durkin? He's just 36, but he's already packed in plenty of high-level coaching experience with some of the top minds in the game. He was a graduate assistant for Urban Meyer at Bowling Green -- his alma mater -- from 2001-02. He joined Harbaugh in 2007 and remained at Stanford for three seasons, coaching defensive ends and special teams.
Meyer hired Durkin back at Florida in 2010, and two years later -- with Will Muschamp at the helm -- Durkin was promoted to defensive coordinator, leading the Gators to a top 10 national ranking in total defense.
How was he able to rise so fast?
He never stops.
"He always found a way," Muth recalls. "We really didn't have much speed out there at all at Stanford early on, and he still found a way to put together some really solid special teams groups.
"And we had some good position coaches. Our defensive line coach (Lance Anderson), our offensive line coaches (Chris Dalman, Tim Drevno), David Shaw. All obviously really good. But Durkin, he might've been the best position coach we had."
The year before Durkin got to Stanford with Harbaugh (2006), the Cardinal had 14 sacks as a team. Two years later, Stanford registered 33 sacks. Durkin unleashed eventual Cardinal star Shayne Skov on special teams, where he created enough havoc to eventually break in as a starting linebacker.
And while Muschamp certainly gets plenty of credit for his efforts as a defensive mind at Florida, Durkin's Gator defense was a top 10 unit in 2013 and a top 10 unit again, prior to postseason play, in 2014.
He also served as the team's interim head coach once Muschamp was fired. New Gators coach Jim McElwain opted not to keep Durkin, and a handful of players weren't exactly thrilled.
"I think he's an amazing coach," safety Keanu Neal told The Gainesville Sun last month. "I hate that he's leaving, but it is what it is, it's part of the business. But he's been the same. He's been coaching his tail off, like he would have if he had a job. I'm surprised that he's doing that. He's really doing a good job."
Harbaugh's known as an intense coach, and so is Durkin. It's his calling card, both on the field and off it.
He's had success developing players and calling defenses, but he's been a high-level recruiter for years -- in multiple regions of the country.
"I know he takes care of his players on and off the field, he's a great guy at heart," says four-star 2015 linebacker Roquan Smith, a Georgia native who will take a visit to Michigan -- because Durkin's there. "He's great at developing guys and doing all he can for them, I know that."
Durkin was named the national recruiter of the year by Rivals.com in 2012. That season alone, he was credited with signing five Top250 prospects, including a pair of five-star players. At Stanford, he was credited for recruiting eventual NFL players Trent Murphy and Ben Gardner during his final season.
On Tuesday, shortly after word of his hire broke, Durkin reportedly offered South Carolina pledge Damon Arnette,secured a visit from Smith and spoke with Louisiana defensive end Jalen Bates.
He's recruited the west coast, the southeast and the midwest.
And more often than not, he does it like Harbaugh: With great intensity.
"There's a reason why (Harbaugh) goes back to the well to get assistants on his old staffs," said former San Diego star and Stanford staffer J.T. Rogan. "He's always trying to surround himself with the best, the brightest and the smartest people.
"He keeps tabs on all of that stuff."
http://www.mlive.com/wolverines/index.ssf/2015/01/dj_durkin.html
HNIC973
R.I.P Bandana P
the intensity is about to get turned up we'll see who survives.No more of the Wins and losses are just a statistic ass losers in this program
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Coli Prophet
ANN ARBOR -- Just about anybody who has been around Jim Harbaugh and D.J. Durkin long enough has heard about the basketball story.
During his time at Stanford, Harbaugh hit the basketball court with his young defensive ends coach -- 15 years his junior -- for a friendly game of one-on-one.
About 90 minutes later, the friendliness stopped and the blood started pouring.
Elbows. Shoves. Forearms. Shoulders. Just about everything but actual, you know, basketball.
"It took like an hour and a half, and it ended 4-3 or whatever," recalls former Stanford offensive tackle Ben Muth. "Neither of them would call a foul. Someone did in the first five minutes, the other guy made fun of him, so it was on from there.
"It was like that James Caan 'Rollerball' movie, basically a fight to the death."
Whether or not Durkin is bringing his blood-soaked sneakers with him to Ann Arbor remains to be seen, but the fiery Youngstown, Ohio native who -- like his old coaching mentor -- lives on energy and intensity is, in fact, bringing his coaching whistle and recruiting hat with him to Michigan.
A source close to the situation confirmed Tuesday afternoon that Durkin will in fact be a member of Harbaugh's coaching staff next year. Michigan has not made any hire official at this point, though Scout.com and 247sports report that Durkin will serve as Harbaugh's defensive coordinator.
Additionally, Sports Illustrated confirmed that Greg Mattison -- Brady Hoke's defensive coordinator over the past four seasons -- has agreed to stay on Harbaugh's staff and work under Durkin. Mattison has been recruiting for the Wolverines since Harbaugh was hired, and has consistently told recruits he plans to be in Ann Arbor in 2015.
As for Durkin? He's just 36, but he's already packed in plenty of high-level coaching experience with some of the top minds in the game. He was a graduate assistant for Urban Meyer at Bowling Green -- his alma mater -- from 2001-02. He joined Harbaugh in 2007 and remained at Stanford for three seasons, coaching defensive ends and special teams.
Meyer hired Durkin back at Florida in 2010, and two years later -- with Will Muschamp at the helm -- Durkin was promoted to defensive coordinator, leading the Gators to a top 10 national ranking in total defense.
How was he able to rise so fast?
He never stops.
"He always found a way," Muth recalls. "We really didn't have much speed out there at all at Stanford early on, and he still found a way to put together some really solid special teams groups.
"And we had some good position coaches. Our defensive line coach (Lance Anderson), our offensive line coaches (Chris Dalman, Tim Drevno), David Shaw. All obviously really good. But Durkin, he might've been the best position coach we had."
The year before Durkin got to Stanford with Harbaugh (2006), the Cardinal had 14 sacks as a team. Two years later, Stanford registered 33 sacks. Durkin unleashed eventual Cardinal star Shayne Skov on special teams, where he created enough havoc to eventually break in as a starting linebacker.
And while Muschamp certainly gets plenty of credit for his efforts as a defensive mind at Florida, Durkin's Gator defense was a top 10 unit in 2013 and a top 10 unit again, prior to postseason play, in 2014.
He also served as the team's interim head coach once Muschamp was fired. New Gators coach Jim McElwain opted not to keep Durkin, and a handful of players weren't exactly thrilled.
"I think he's an amazing coach," safety Keanu Neal told The Gainesville Sun last month. "I hate that he's leaving, but it is what it is, it's part of the business. But he's been the same. He's been coaching his tail off, like he would have if he had a job. I'm surprised that he's doing that. He's really doing a good job."
Harbaugh's known as an intense coach, and so is Durkin. It's his calling card, both on the field and off it.
He's had success developing players and calling defenses, but he's been a high-level recruiter for years -- in multiple regions of the country.
"I know he takes care of his players on and off the field, he's a great guy at heart," says four-star 2015 linebacker Roquan Smith, a Georgia native who will take a visit to Michigan -- because Durkin's there. "He's great at developing guys and doing all he can for them, I know that."
Durkin was named the national recruiter of the year by Rivals.com in 2012. That season alone, he was credited with signing five Top250 prospects, including a pair of five-star players. At Stanford, he was credited for recruiting eventual NFL players Trent Murphy and Ben Gardner during his final season.
On Tuesday, shortly after word of his hire broke, Durkin reportedly offered South Carolina pledge Damon Arnette,secured a visit from Smith and spoke with Louisiana defensive end Jalen Bates.
He's recruited the west coast, the southeast and the midwest.
And more often than not, he does it like Harbaugh: With great intensity.
"There's a reason why (Harbaugh) goes back to the well to get assistants on his old staffs," said former San Diego star and Stanford staffer J.T. Rogan. "He's always trying to surround himself with the best, the brightest and the smartest people.
"He keeps tabs on all of that stuff."
http://www.mlive.com/wolverines/index.ssf/2015/01/dj_durkin.html
This is coming together beautifully.