The OFFICIAL MICHIGAN FOOTBALL TEAM 140 THREAD: THE TEAM! THE TEAM! THE TEAM!

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We don’t have to play the what if, but the fact is those things fukked us, and that can happen to any coach, the point was we were in positions to win vs getting our doors blown off the hinges, and MSU came on right when we fell off, because nikkas were ready to run Carr off, and dantonio is that dude, he ain’t no slouch, no one is happy with losing to osu but we have to be realistic and recognize osu has way more talent, a successful run of how many great qbs and two hof coaches back to back most programs don’t get that, so until nikkas ready to start paying for talent we not going to get it like osu, and truth be told it was a different big ten when we were getting them, but we are on the right track and i feel like we are in a position to get there. You all keep trying to run harbaugh out we might get two more trash coaches and we back trying to play the catch up game again

I’ll also leave this for you all who keep forgetting them 5-7 years

trust, i dont want to go back to the days of this

We used to actually sit back and gas ourselves that this was gonna compete for the chip and while we are light years ahead talent wise from them days its starting to remind me of Carr days where we have all this talent on the field but its not translating to W's. I get its 9-10 a year but the ones that truly count and truly matter

edit: there was supposed to be a pic of the depth chart from '08 in there it wont load oh well u get the point

 

[DropTopDoc]

trust, i dont want to go back to the days of this

We used to actually sit back and gas ourselves that this was gonna compete for the chip and while we are light years ahead talent wise from them days its starting to remind me of Carr days where we have all this talent on the field but its not translating to W's. I get its 9-10 a year but the ones that truly count and truly matter

edit: there was supposed to be a pic of the depth chart from '08 in there it wont load oh well u get the point

I get the frustration i want to beat osu so bad i can taste it, and start competing in the playoffs, but a lot of people don’t realize what Alabama, Ohio State, Clemson, Oklahoma, and uga are doing is an anomaly, in this modern era, you talking about programs that consistently get stars/superstars/generational talent and to sustain success and get New staff, and not fall off, we are starting to get there, but this ain’t a video game you don’t get the hot shot new coordinator or hc and shyt turns around, there’s no way in hell folks thought chip would be a bust at UCLA, or Frost would be struggling at Nebraska, or locksly would be getting baptized week in and out, and those were all hot names with what they did at previous schools, meanwhile we getting 10 wins and traditional powerhouses are struggling to get that

 

[eastside313]

trust, i dont want to go back to the days of this

We used to actually sit back and gas ourselves that this was gonna compete for the chip and while we are light years ahead talent wise from them days its starting to remind me of Carr days where we have all this talent on the field but its not translating to W's. I get its 9-10 a year but the ones that truly count and truly matter

edit: there was supposed to be a pic of the depth chart from '08 in there it wont load oh well u get the point

False. Brady hoke left a team that set the Michigan record for nfl draft picks.

 

[eastside313]

We don’t have to play the what if, but the fact is those things fukked us, and that can happen to any coach, the point was we were in positions to win vs getting our doors blown off the hinges, and MSU came on right when we fell off, because nikkas were ready to run Carr off, and dantonio is that dude, he ain’t no slouch, no one is happy with losing to osu but we have to be realistic and recognize osu has way more talent, a successful run of how many great qbs and two hof coaches back to back most programs don’t get that, so until nikkas ready to start paying for talent we not going to get it like osu, and truth be told it was a different big ten when we were getting them, but we are on the right track and i feel like we are in a position to get there. You all keep trying to run harbaugh out we might get two more trash coaches and we back trying to play the catch up game again

I’ll also leave this for you all who keep forgetting them 5-7 years

Funny how Michigan state has managed to win big ten titles and beat Ohio state. I guess they paying for friggin Brian lewerke.

 

[DropTopDoc]

Funny how Michigan state has managed to win big ten titles and beat Ohio state. I guess they paying for friggin Brian lewerke.

Stop, He had a lot of talent on those teams, getting players we traditionally would have got had we not had rich rod and Fred Flintstone as our hc and had a lot go his way, in those games, hell one could say he stole said victories, let’s not act like he throttled osu, he got by, and it is what it is, also osu ain’t invested in beating MSU like Michigan. Man we could argue all day, my point is, we are getting better slowly but surely, don’t act like we were ripping off national championships year in and out, and times are a changing, osu is ahead of us in the arms race, so don’t expect us to just knock them off easily, and don’t expect the next coach to do it either, it’s a lot of hot shots out there, with bigger names and more talent still struggling to get our consistency, no one is saying be content but let’s not act like we clip harbaugh and tomorrow we turn into Alabama

 

[eastside313]

Stop, He had a lot of talent on those teams, getting players we traditionally would have got had we not had rich rod and Fred Flintstone as our hc and had a lot go his way, in those games, hell one could say he stole said victories, let’s not act like he throttled osu, he got by, and it is what it is, also osu ain’t invested in beating MSU like Michigan. Man we could argue all day, my point is, we are getting better slowly but surely, don’t act like we were ripping off national championships year in and out, and times are a changing, osu is ahead of us in the arms race, so don’t expect us to just knock them off easily, and don’t expect the next coach to do it either, it’s a lot of hot shots out there, with bigger names and more talent still struggling to get our consistency, no one is saying be content but let’s not act like we clip harbaugh and tomorrow we turn into Alabama

Brady hoke recruited top flight talent he just couldn’t coach. Ironically harbaughs best coaching at Michigan was when he had Brady hokes players. MSU did not get all the top players Michigan wanted. They were just coached well.

So if i up those threads from when harbaugh was hired will you be in there saying oh we should be ready to beat Ohio state and win the big ten in 7 or 8 years?

 

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False. Brady hoke left a team that set the Michigan record for nfl draft picks.

He coached 11-14 yielding draft classes of 3-2-3-3 the class you are referring to is 2017 with 11. If you want to give credit 3 years out, weird flex but ok

(ive been waiting years to use that phrase)

and i do agree sparty does find a way to a big win here and there

 

[Whips-n-Chains]

Stop, He had a lot of talent on those teams, getting players we traditionally would have got had we not had rich rod and Fred Flintstone as our hc and had a lot go his way, in those games, hell one could say he stole said victories, let’s not act like he throttled osu, he got by, and it is what it is, also osu ain’t invested in beating MSU like Michigan. Man we could argue all day, my point is, we are getting better slowly but surely, don’t act like we were ripping off national championships year in and out, and times are a changing, osu is ahead of us in the arms race, so don’t expect us to just knock them off easily, and don’t expect the next coach to do it either, it’s a lot of hot shots out there, with bigger names and more talent still struggling to get our consistency, no one is saying be content but let’s not act like we clip harbaugh and tomorrow we turn into Alabama

Lurkin' thru y'all thread. The leaders on those MSU teams that were the most successful in '13,'14,'15 probably didn't even have michigan offers. Conner Cook, Jeremy Langfor, Trae Waynes, Darqueze Dennard, Max Bollough, Bennie Fowler, Tony Lippet likely had zero attention from UM. Hoke brought in top 5 classes IIRC, he was just a lousy coach. You might mention Malik McDowell that had 2 successful years at MSU and held a Michigan offer but was clearly not a leader. Talent has never been the issue with Mich the last 15 years...it's been coaching and unrealistic expectations. It's better to fly under the radar than to be overhyped and have inflated egos.

Our game this year will be like the Iowa/UM game last week unless MSU or MI can formulate some sort of offense.

OSU is beatable if you can keep your defense off the field and not give up 4-5 home runs like we did.

 

[DropTopDoc]

Brady hoke recruited top flight talent he just couldn’t coach. Ironically harbaughs best coaching at Michigan was when he had Brady hokes players. MSU did not get all the top players Michigan wanted. They were just coached well.

So if i up those threads from when harbaugh was hired will you be in there saying oh we should be ready to beat Ohio state and win the big ten in 7 or 8 years?

You can up them i know i wouldn’t say anything foolish as we automatically will be winning shyt, if anything i know, it’s like oh this new chick is better than the old, then you realize you gotta put in work with her too to get the best results and though the old had its bright spots, you know you are in a better position period

 

[DropTopDoc]

Lurkin' thru y'all thread. The leaders on those MSU teams that were the most successful in '13,'14,'15 probably didn't even have michigan offers. Conner Cook, Jeremy Langfor, Trae Waynes, Darqueze Dennard, Max Bollough, Bennie Fowler, Tony Lippet likely had zero attention from UM. Hoke brought in top 5 classes IIRC, he was just a lousy coach. You might mention Malik McDowell that had 2 successful years at MSU and held a Michigan offer but was clearly not a leader. Talent has never been the issue with Mich the last 15 years...it's been coaching and unrealistic expectations. It's better to fly under the radar than to be overhyped and have inflated egos.

Our game this year will be like the Iowa/UM game last week unless MSU or MI can formulate some sort of offense.

OSU is beatable if you can keep your defense off the field and not give up 4-5 home runs like we did.

At one point you all were a D line and DB factory, and had a couple decent WRs and RBs so again let’s not pull away from the point y’all ate good off our bad years

 

[Whips-n-Chains]

At one point you all were a D line and DB factory, and had a couple decent WRs and RBs so again let’s not pull away from the point y’all ate good off our bad years

...but how many of those players had offers from UM my friend? we only 'ate' in the sense that we beat you consistently, there's not doubt that had do do with the coaching issue's you've been dealing with. It has NOT been from MSU recruiting players that typically would have gone to UM. Our biggest difference makers were not UM offered athletes, sans a short list like Malik McDowell.

Our best players those years were Connor Cook a 2* QB and Darqueze Dennard a 2* CB...had nothing to do with out recruiting mich b/c of michigan's lean years. Y'all easily out recruited us each year.

Just curious what you think we 'ate' off of UM? Beating y'all 7 of 8 or whatever it was clearly didn't help us out recruit y'all...so how did we eat?

 

[smitty22]

I get the frustration i want to beat osu so bad i can taste it, and start competing in the playoffs, but a lot of people don’t realize what Alabama, Ohio State, Clemson, Oklahoma, and uga are doing is an anomaly, in this modern era, you talking about programs that consistently get stars/superstars/generational talent and to sustain success and get New staff, and not fall off, we are starting to get there, but this ain’t a video game you don’t get the hot shot new coordinator or hc and shyt turns around, there’s no way in hell folks thought chip would be a bust at UCLA, or Frost would be struggling at Nebraska, or locksly would be getting baptized week in and out, and those were all hot names with what they did at previous schools, meanwhile we getting 10 wins and traditional powerhouses are struggling to get that

You’ll never know what that tastes like again in your lifetime, but I’ll treat you to a tasty Thurman Burger as a consolation prize.

 

[DropTopDoc]

You’ll never know what that tastes like again in your lifetime, but I’ll treat you to a tasty Thurman Burger as a consolation prize.

I’ll take it, but best believe we coming for y’all

 

[eastside313]

He coached 11-14 yielding draft classes of 3-2-3-3 the class you are referring to is 2017 with 11. If you want to give credit 3 years out, weird flex but ok

(ive been waiting years to use that phrase)

and i do agree sparty does find a way to a big win here and there

I was just pointing out that you saying we are Currently light years ahead talent wise isn’t true. One could argue that by what we’ve seen the first month of the season, the talent level is down from when harbaugh got here.

 

[eastside313]

You can up them i know i wouldn’t say anything foolish as we automatically will be winning shyt, if anything i know, it’s like oh this new chick is better than the old, then you realize you gotta put in work with her too to get the best results and though the old had its bright spots, you know you are in a better position period

Come on now doc we were all in those threads talking national title within 3-4 years. Not one Michigan fan in this thread thought we would be here 5 years later and still ain’t won chit.

if the new chick is prettier but in reality she has shown me that she is just as clueless as the last broad then she gotta go to. Not gonna sit around and wait for 7 years for her to get a clue.