The Official Lucha Underground(Season 2)on El Rey Discussion

[Bryan Danielson]

I got one, pic should be around somewhere. I wore it backwards for the pic. It says perros del mal (his triple a stable) , on the front. And cero miedo on the back. Reason I purchased the shirt. It was thru ebay tho.

But you right. Hopefully they do start making more merchandise or for different superstars. I guess since it's a small company they don't have the resources to make everyone a shirt. I don't know how the cost and production of shirts works or if they figure the investment isn't there until the viewers increase.

Atleast they have a women's section, right @Milk N Cookies

Dont most "indie" wrestlers do they own shirts though?

I know I have a friend thats a wrestler and I know for a fact for years all his merchandising... he kinda handles himself. At his shows when they have like intermissions or after shows, he most cases has a table and sells his shyt

 

[mannyrs13]

Dont most "indie" wrestlers do they own shirts though?

I know I have a friend thats a wrestler and I know for a fact for years all his merchandising... he kinda handles himself. At his shows when they have like intermissions or after shows, he most cases has a table and sells his shyt

Yeah you may be right. I think I read something about it in Daniel Bryans book. Don't know how it works with LU or any independent show. I've only been to wwe events.

 

[Bryan Danielson]

Yeah you may be right. I think I read something about it in Daniel Bryans book. Don't know how it works with LU or any independent show. I've only been to wwe events.

Yea.... as far as I know... most indie guys distribute and sell they own shyt..... thats why they be coming and leaving shows with them big bulky bags and suitcases

 

[Vic Damone. Jr]

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[HollywoodP]

If there aint at least 3 of these wrestlers on WWE's radar they need to fire Johnny Ace or whoever the fukk is talent relations nowadays.

Pentagon would be a monster in the WWE.
Ricochet would be a fun cruiserweight plus he's best friends with Apollo Crews
Cage is the prototypical type of guy Vince looks for...and he can do a moonsault ( at that Steiner Screwdriver...that shyt made me yell out loud)
Angelico is smooth and don't care about his own well being...he could be the next Jeff Hardy

And I instantly regret looking at the rest of the roster on Wikipedia...Shows who's holding which belt...and its a fukkin spoiler.

 

[mrken12]

If there aint at least 3 of these wrestlers on WWE's radar they need to fire Johnny Ace or whoever the fukk is talent relations nowadays.

Pentagon would be a monster in the WWE.
Ricochet would be a fun cruiserweight plus he's best friends with Apollo Crews
Cage is the prototypical type of guy Vince looks for...and he can do a moonsault ( at that Steiner Screwdriver...that shyt made me yell out loud)
Angelico is smooth and don't care about his own well being...he could be the next Jeff Hardy

And I instantly regret looking at the rest of the roster on Wikipedia...Shows who's holding which belt...and its a fukkin spoiler.

WWE have been trying hard to get Angelico for a while. I'm not sure about which other wrestlers they were trying to bring in.

 

[Bryan Danielson]

If there aint at least 3 of these wrestlers on WWE's radar they need to fire Johnny Ace or whoever the fukk is talent relations nowadays.

Pentagon would be a monster in the WWE.
Ricochet would be a fun cruiserweight plus he's best friends with Apollo Crews
Cage is the prototypical type of guy Vince looks for...and he can do a moonsault ( at that Steiner Screwdriver...that shyt made me yell out loud)
Angelico is smooth and don't care about his own well being...he could be the next Jeff Hardy

And I instantly regret looking at the rest of the roster on Wikipedia...Shows who's holding which belt...and its a fukkin spoiler.

You know like... non of that would ever happen right?

From what I read Pentagon Jr doesnt speak english.... we see how well that worked for Sin Cara.... plus ultimately they'd either stick him with a tag team or have him job to the stars. Eventually his career will just be a series of occasional jobber 3 man tag matches where he's already in the ring when we come back from commercial.

Ricochet.... see Adrian Neville currently.... want further insight of his future and his ceiling..... See Evan Bourne

Cage? Vets like Austin or Y2J will get in his head and between them and the E writers they'd tell him "work the BIG MAN GIMMICK". We'd see them moonsaults and Steiner Screwdrivers like we saw the Pepsi Plunge. They would probably strip him down completely..... See Mason Ryan. Ryback kinda already has the spot filled for a guy like him anyway

Angelico? I think since he's tall, has a look (dude looks like a non retarded Dean Ambrose with Alex Shelley/Seth Rollins hairstyle..... though they'd changed that gimmick), and is a daredevil. He'd be something that they'd probably showcase. Just use him for his aerial shyt, make him a Hardy-lite guy. He actually may be someone that could potentially be successful. But the thing is, in LU he's doing something spectacular practically every time he's on TV, I can see the E stripping him of that and making him save it for the few sporadic ppv's he may make the cut on (RR, SSeries, TLC). But in them 3 minute tv matches.... he probably not gonna be able to do enough to get properly over with the crowd. His potential..... see The Brian Kendrick.

Na man.... please let these guys cook properly where they at now

 

[llt23]

Much as I'd love to see Lucha Underground stars get that WWE money it prob would just be a waste of their talent to go there. What I'd rather see is LU get bigger and get on a channel that people actually get.

 

[HollywoodP]

You know like... non of that would ever happen right?

From what I read Pentagon Jr doesnt speak english.... we see how well that worked for Sin Cara.... plus ultimately they'd either stick him with a tag team or have him job to the stars. Eventually his career will just be a series of occasional jobber 3 man tag matches where he's already in the ring when we come back from commercial.

Ricochet.... see Adrian Neville currently.... want further insight of his future and his ceiling..... See Evan Bourne

Cage? Vets like Austin or Y2J will get in his head and between them and the E writers they'd tell him "work the BIG MAN GIMMICK". We'd see them moonsaults and Steiner Screwdrivers like we saw the Pepsi Plunge. They would probably strip him down completely..... See Mason Ryan. Ryback kinda already has the spot filled for a guy like him anyway

Angelico? I think since he's tall, has a look (dude looks like a non retarded Dean Ambrose with Alex Shelley/Seth Rollins hairstyle..... though they'd changed that gimmick), and is a daredevil. He'd be something that they'd probably showcase. Just use him for his aerial shyt, make him a Hardy-lite guy. He actually may be someone that could potentially be successful. But the thing is, in LU he's doing something spectacular practically every time he's on TV, I can see the E stripping him of that and making him save it for the few sporadic ppv's he may make the cut on (RR, SSeries, TLC). But in them 3 minute tv matches.... he probably not gonna be able to do enough to get properly over with the crowd. His potential..... see The Brian Kendrick.

Na man.... please let these guys cook properly where they at now

Nah I agree...I want them where they are at... for now. And I pretty much agree with you...I know they aren't coming in with their current characters...I don't think Ricochet or Angelico would be some megastars on the main roster right away but I'd love to see what they can do in NXT. I get the comparison to Sydal...but there were reasons he wasn't pushed to the moon, he fukked up a few times. They're both super young and super talented...besides WWEs shytty midcard booking I like to be optimistic and think one of them could break out eventually (Neville still has time as well). And I know your right about Pentagon but if Lucha Underground ever folds I'm realistically not going to watch AAA. I'd love to see his fukkery in WWE. Not really a fair comparison to make to Mistico...who had alot more issues than not speaking english. And I know Cage aint gonna be doing moonsaults and Steiner Drivers in the WWE (nor would I want him to), but he's got a great non boring moveset beyond those moves, he's jacked up and athletic as hell. He's already been in their developmental system...I'd be shocked as fukk if they haven't already been in contact with him at one point or another about bringing him back. He's still raw, but i'd much rather have him than Ry-berg. Aside from us fantasy booking the future or us not wanting WWE to poach them...the point I was trying to make, is that the talent LU currently has should be...and most likely is...drawing the attention of the machine that is World Wrestling Entertainment.

 

[Lucha Vandross]

Ivee is currently killing the wrestling tights game.

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[Bryan Danielson]

Nah I agree...I want them where they are at... for now. And I pretty much agree with you...I know they aren't coming in with their current characters...I don't think Ricochet or Angelico would be some megastars on the main roster right away but I'd love to see what they can do in NXT. I get the comparison to Sydal...but there were reasons he wasn't pushed to the moon, he fukked up a few times. They're both super young and super talented...besides WWEs shytty midcard booking I like to be optimistic and think one of them could break out eventually (Neville still has time as well). And I know your right about Pentagon but if Lucha Underground ever folds I'm realistically not going to watch AAA. I'd love to see his fukkery in WWE. Not really a fair comparison to make to Mistico...who had alot more issues than not speaking english. And I know Cage aint gonna be doing moonsaults and Steiner Drivers in the WWE (nor would I want him to), but he's got a great non boring moveset beyond those moves, he's jacked up and athletic as hell. He's already been in their developmental system...I'd be shocked as fukk if they haven't already been in contact with him at one point or another about bringing him back. He's still raw, but i'd much rather have him than Ry-berg. Aside from us fantasy booking the future or us not wanting WWE to poach them...the point I was trying to make, is that the talent LU currently has should be...and most likely is...drawing the attention of the machine that is World Wrestling Entertainment.

I feel you and I actually respect that.

I guess in terms of seeing these cats as close to what they actually are or can be. Going back to what you said in terms of if LU folded...... then I think I'd rather see these guys go to TNA. Still with all the hate TNA may get with some booking decisions and overall storylines. When it comes to ring action they never been on that politically "you can't do this" or "you need to tone your style down so you dont overshadow *insert heavily pushed main event guy*" shyt.

Lots of cases guys can go there and be their gimmick (I mean Danials brought Curry Man to TNA.... that shyt would NEVER fly in the E). Also, its well proven that more guys get a better chance and opportunity to shine there whether you like them or not;

Bobby Lashley being the world champ and BLACKs being strong heels and headliners of the show, other minorities not being in stereotype gimmicks, guys dont get buried as consistently or as bad, etc

I think one of the main positives of LU is they make their whole roster look strong but treating EVERYONE with an overall level of respect, where in the E they LOVE to make it clear who are the top guys and who are the curtain jerkers. The too many times push who they want to push verse really who the fans want to see pushed, and ultimately they play too many dangerous games because they are too petty.

It still puzzles me how they never capitalized on Fandango when he was over, how they fukked up Ryback, the shyt the did with Wade, and then they sabotage of Ceasaro then in the same vein put the blame on him like its his fault (that brass ring bullshyt).

I respect the optimisim... but I just cant trust this company. Seen more guys ruined by them than made in the last 15 years.

 

[Here Comes the Pain]

Pentagon vs prince puma was dope

Ivelisse is just

She looking better each week.

 

[John Reena]

WWE had The Mack, Ivelisse, Catrina, Ricochet aka Prince Puma, Johnny Mundo, and Cage pass thru their doors n let em go.

 

[y que]

any guesses as to who matanza cueto is gonna be when they finally reveal him?

 

[TheGodling]

any guesses as to who matanza cueto is gonna be when they finally reveal him?

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