Sometimes, you have to be the perfect victim to win the narrative. UNRWA had several members who were involved in the October 7th attacks.
What did you think was going to happen in the fall out?
The Official Israel-Gaza Thread
What did you think was going to happen in the fall out?
King Kreole
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Ok so you do agree with Trump's position and actions. I actually respect you more than the other HL Centrists and Libs because you actually own the end results of your position. You don't pretend to be a humanitarian or operating out of morality or believe in the inherent worth of non-American human life, you're a pure nationalist who will defend the actions of the government as long as they're not doing leftist stuff. You're just honest about it while the other HL Centrist and Libs live in contradiction.
I’m an american. I wanted Americans to preserve their interests before handling external affairs of a conflict they didn’t start.
You should be happy. You got the outcome you wanted.
No, he and others like him thought Trump would win, but Dems would maintain the house or senate and be able to block him or some other perfect scenario where he could talk about the what ifs and failures of capitalism without actual harm.
It’s the same thing they did in 2016. They wanted the ideological purity of “criticizing” democrats while enjoying the cover of democrats being in power. They wanted to “steel man” being contrarian democrats. It’s the perfect grift.No, he and others like him thought Trump would win, but Dems would maintain the house or senate and be able to block him or some other perfect scenario where he could talk about the what ifs and failures of capitalism without actual harm.
Now, they have to actually get to work and put points up on the board.
Oh yeah, everyone they endorsed failed to win a primary or reelection as the squad is shrinking.
Whats really funny is that in countries with parliaments or alternative voting systems, these people would actually be forced to make compromises and vote for a particular party because they dont get to hide behind attacking democrats while ignoring their own political endeavors. You can’t pretend to be a Green Party or Communist in the UK. You don’t get to criticize some bigger party thats unelectable. You have a bevy of options. You support your nuanced niche party or get out of the way.
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King Kreole
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I don't know why you keep saying this. Why should I be happy with Trump's actions, I'm in favor of Palestinian rights and international humanitarian organizations. You guys were the ones saying the Palestinians should be ethnically cleansed from Palestine and UNRWA/UN are terrorist organizations. Trump is following your desires, not mine.
King Kreole
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Another complete fabrication pulled from the ass of a poster untethered from reality.
King Kreole
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Labour won with the smallest popular vote percentage in UK history. Green Party got 1.8M votes for 6.8% of the total vote share, doubling the previous best electoral performance in its history.
But I don't see what your point has to do with left leaning people criticizing the neoliberal party while sometimes voting for them and sometimes not.
It’s even worse for him in particular because it’s well documented how he was bending over backwards to make intellectual arguments as to why Trump would be good for black people and within two weeks he’s terrorizing minorities across the globe.No, he and others like him thought Trump would win, but Dems would maintain the house or senate and be able to block him or some other perfect scenario where he could talk about the what ifs and failures of capitalism without actual harm.
I suppose he could get the vindication smooth mind said was coming depending on how trumps meeting with net and yahoo goes.
King Kreole
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This poster is a walking example of why Trump's EO abolishing the Department of Education would be so disastrous. The last thing this country needs is even more remedial morons incapable of temporal reasoning.
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Live Updates: Trump Says Palestinians Have ‘No Alternative’ but to Leave Gaza
Welp
Trump going all in with the expulsion of Palestinians from Gaza.
I was told it cannot get any worse
https://www.nytimes.com/live/2025/02/04/us/trump-administration-rfk-jr-gabbard/trump-netanyahu-meeting-israel-gaza?smid=url-share
Trump says he wants Jordan and Egypt to take in Palestinians from Gaza.
President Trump declared on Tuesday that Palestinians had no choice but to leave Gaza because of the devastation wrought by Israel’s war with Hamas after the terrorist attack of Oct. 7, 2023, suggesting that they be given a new homeland.
Mr. Trump made the comments to reporters shortly before hosting Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu of Israel at the White House to talk about the next stage of a cease-fire in the Gaza war. Speaking in the Oval Office while signing executive orders, Mr. Trump said he wanted Jordan and Egypt to take in the Palestinians.
“They have no alternative right now” but to leave, Mr. Trump said of Gazans. “I mean, they’re there because they have no alternative. What do they have? It is a big pile of rubble right now.” He added: “I don’t know how they could want to stay. It’s a demolition site. It’s a pure demolition site.”
Mr. Trump seemed to indicate that he wanted to find a permanent new homeland for the Palestinians rather than reconstruct Gaza. “If we could find the right piece of land, or numerous pieces of land, and build them some really nice places with plenty of money in the area, that’s for sure,” he said. “I think that would be a lot better than going back to Gaza.”
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President Trump and Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu of Israel at Mr. Trump’s Mar-a-Lago estate in Florida in July.Credit...Doug Mills/The New York Times
While the president framed the matter as a humanitarian imperative, the notion of clearing Palestinians out of Gaza is an explosive one in a region that has endured generations of warfare over questions of homelands and forced migration. Neither Egypt nor Jordan want to take in large numbers of Palestinians, given the burden and fears of instability, nor is it clear that Gazans would willingly abandon the enclave they have spent years defending, even with the destruction.
Hamas, which has run Gaza for most of the past two decades and is now trying to reestablish its control there, quickly rejected Mr. Trump’s idea as well. Sami Abu Zuhri, a senior Hamas official, said that the president’s statement about no alternative but leaving was “a recipe for creating chaos and tension in the region.”
“Our people in Gaza will not allow for these plans to come to pass,” he said in a statement distributed by Hamas. “What is needed is the end of the occupation and the aggression against our people, not expelling them from their land.”
Mr. Trump’s meeting with Mr. Netanyahu will be his first in-person meeting with another world leader since returning to power two weeks ago. The two are expected to discuss negotiations for the second phase of the fragile cease-fire with Hamas, Iran’s efforts to build a nuclear weapon, new arms shipments and hopes for a deal to normalize relations with Saudi Arabia.
The meeting, which is part of a multiday visit to Washington by Mr. Netanyahu, is meant to demonstrate the close ties between the two leaders. More than a year of war between Israel and Hamas severely strained the relationship between the Israeli leader and President Joseph R. Biden Jr.
Mr. Trump and Mr. Netanyahu had forged a close partnership during the president’s first term but fell out toward its end over a number of issues, including the Israeli leader’s willingness to congratulate Mr. Biden on his victory in the 2020 election, which Mr. Trump to this day insists he won. Mr. Trump and Mr. Netanyahu have sought to smooth over their rift, and the president told reporters last weekend that he was looking forward to the meeting.
“The discussions on the Middle East with Israel and various and sundry other countries are progressing,” the president said, adding that Mr. Netanyahu would be “coming on Tuesday, and I think we have some very big meetings scheduled.”
But Mr. Netanyahu will be going into his meeting at odds with Mr. Trump on several important issues, according to analysts. Those are likely to include the questions of how to confront Iran’s nuclear ambitions and how quickly to end the war in Gaza.
The Trump administration has made clear that it wants to see all of the hostages held by Hamas returned and then move on to a grand bargain involving Saudi Arabia that formalizes relations with Israel. All of that hinges on an end to fighting in the Palestinian enclave.
With Mr. Netanyahu’s right-wing government in jeopardy if the war ends with Hamas still in control in Gaza, and with no other plan for the area in place, analysts expect the Israeli prime minister to try to delay moving to the next stage of the deal, which calls for a permanent cease-fire.
Edward Wong and Adam Rasgon contributed reporting.
