Essential The Official Football (Soccer) Thread - We are SO back, the Premier League returns!

[Kunty McPhuck]

anyone else thinks Messi has become a luxury player over the past few years?

what other top team can he go and play the way he does and have the whole team cater to how he plays? He doesn't run off the ball or move off the ball, he can't stick to his og position because he usually shifts in, but that becomes a problem for the cm trying to to his job and the rb hardly has anyone to pass it forward to. since he doesn't have a work rate off the ball he can't be in midfield.

He's been a luxury player since Pep left/around the time he scored 91 goals. H

Valverde had the right idea when he went to 2 up top, but Suarez was done by that stage, the mobility was already declining. Messi like C dot needs workers alongside him.

The problem is Barca are too attached to the 433, but Messi needs a partner up front and he has to play as the SS. With one hard working winger and a Benz/Firmino type of worker as the CF. So basically you're left with 442 or some variant of 352 to fit him. Because the midfield diamond doesn't work either for Barca or Argentina

 

[mastermind]

Nah, Barca much like the Spain team got found out in the early 10's. Both Chelsea and Inter laid the blueprint and then Bayern put them to the sword. They never evolved as a team, stood still and went backwards. Yeah MSN led them to a title that one year, but every season since, in the KO stages, theyve been bullied and that goes back to Chelsea and Inter. And Barcas away performances haven't been that stellar over the last decade in the CL if we're keeping it reality.

Yup. Pep hasn’t had success in Europe since then as well.

It’s not a style of play suited for CL success.

 

[mastermind]

anyone else thinks Messi has become a luxury player over the past few years?

what other top team can he go and play the way he does and have the whole team cater to how he plays? He doesn't run off the ball or move off the ball, he can't stick to his og position because he usually shifts in, but that becomes a problem for the cm trying to to his job and the rb hardly has anyone to pass it forward to. since he doesn't have a work rate off the ball he can't be in midfield.

He is the last #10

 

[TobiOT]

Couple of hours before the final Quarter final match, I need to watch that Bayern massacre again

They should used the Bayern goal music

 

[Montez]

anyone else thinks Messi has become a luxury player over the past few years?

what other top team can he go and play the way he does and have the whole team cater to how he plays? He doesn't run off the ball or move off the ball, he can't stick to his og position because he usually shifts in, but that becomes a problem for the cm trying to to his job and the rb hardly has anyone to pass it forward to. since he doesn't have a work rate off the ball he can't be in midfield.

City.
Inter.

Both teams desperate to make big splashes. Inter because of the slower pace. I wouldn't touch Messi for the exact reasons you mentioned. At least Real were smart to get up from Cronaldo but with Messi it's damn near impossible.


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[null]

They have both handed some of the biggest beat downs of all time. 4 World cups and it should have been more but for some shyt luck(been in more finals than Brazil) and has scored massive amounts of goals. Germany has always been spectacular at football.

unfortunately not .. consistency, few weaknesses, cover all the basics. no fantasy.

the best ever german player is a defensive midfielder / defender. even the Bomber's legacy is questioned because his lack of artistry...

the best Argentinian or Brazilian or Croatian or Spanish or .... do I have to spell it out for you?

 

[SmarkMero]

 

[null]

If you're on about honours then yeah. Just like United weren't near Liverpool until the latest couple of decades. Other than that i have no idea what you are on about.

I guess you don't count Spanish Nationalism vs Catalan Nationalism as a rival thing

congrats.

yes honours and performances ...

 

[TobiOT]

Chris Smalling might go from Roma to Newcastle

Edit* Roma still want him.

 

[TobiOT]

 

[NoGutsNoGLory]

unfortunately not .. consistency, few weaknesses, cover all the basics. no fantasy.

the best ever german player is a defensive midfielder / defender. even the Bomber's legacy is questioned because his lack of artistry...

the best Argentinian or Brazilian or Croatian or Spanish or .... do I have to spell it out for you?

no fantasy? how the fukk do you think goals are scored? They are relentless.

 

[The axe murderer]

Couple of hours before the final Quarter final match, I need to watch that Bayern massacre again

They should used the Bayern goal music

they have highlights of it on this porn site

Spoiler

Barcelona vs Bayern Munich 2−8 (14/08/2020) #Anal #Gangbang #Humiliation JOKE!!! (14.08.2020) on SexyPorn

 

[null]

no fantasy? how the fukk do you think goals are scored? They are relentless.

American... ?

And yes "Fantasy"... twice over.

 

[010101]

no fantasy? how the fukk do you think goals are scored? They are relentless.

putting it over the line is the fantasy ya diiiiiiiiigg*

 

[Montez]

Citeh 3
Lyon 1