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TobiOT said:



Maguire did that fukkery and Greece and is still our captain. :unimpressed:


In otherwords, the Arsenal All Or Nothing Amazon doc about to be :ohlawd:


Martin Odegaard is the strong favorite.
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Eh, Laca and Gabi I'd say. But we don't know what happens in the dressing room/training.

I agree with the decision. You can't be captain and have these disciplinary issues. It's a bad look.
 
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His latest breach wasn't particularly egregious imo. Especially to be dropped from the team plus loss of armband. I guess all past infractions added together make it a bad look.

He doesn't seem captain material anyway....too chilled.

Ozil Auba about to sit on the bench earning a fat packet while sending subliminal social media shots at Arteta
 
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Odegaard makes sense as the new captain. He's a good guy, a p*ssy and goes hiding like the manager. Ramsdale would be my choice.

Sad thing about Aubameyang is we bought him 3 years too late.

Auba isn't a great example but you can't keep falling out with highly paid players and be at a big club.

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His latest breach wasn't particularly egregious imo. Especially to be dropped from the team plus loss of armband. I guess all past infractions added together make it a bad look.

He doesn't seem captain material anyway....too chilled.

Ozil Auba about to sit on the bench earning a fat packet while sending subliminal social media shots at Arteta
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Loan him to Italy for the rest of the season.
 
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If Tierney wasn't injury prone, he would be my first choice for captain. I think him & Gabriel should be our leaders.

I don't want to see that armband anywhere near Laca or Xhaka though...I already think Arteta isn't the man to take Arsenal forward but if he makes either of them the captains, he needs to go. We were actively trying to sell both of them in the summer and Laca is leaving this summer.
 
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:why::why:

We can't defeat this guy.
This time, Aubameyang was granted permission to travel to France on Wednesday on the condition that he returned that night, in order to report for training on Thursday.

Aubameyang did not return on Wednesday. Instead, he caught an early flight on Thursday morning before reporting to London Colney. Sources suggest he was on time for training, but as far as Arsenal were concerned, the infraction had already occurred.

The problem was compounded by confusion regarding the COVID-19 protocols. Aubameyang underwent a test in France prior to returning to the UK and believed that would be sufficient for him to resume training immediately on Thursday. Under current guidance, however, a PCR test is required with isolation until receiving a negative result, precluding you from going anywhere (including place of work) in the meantime.

Some have suggested that the intricacies of the testing implications could have been better communicated to Aubameyang by the club: since the start of the pandemic, footballers have operated under a number of different protocols, sometimes even permitted to travel freely thanks to elite sport exemptions. Such an exemption would not, of course, be applicable when travelling to deal with a personal matter.

The club, however, believe the parameters within which Aubameyang’s trip were permitted were very clear, and that he simply failed to meet them. Aubameyang was told not to report to London Colney for Arsenal’s training session on Friday. Instead, he trained at home in order to maintain his fitness.

In his pre-match press conference on Friday, Arteta made no mention of any issues with the club captain. When asked if the player was lacking confidence, he said: “Obviously, when a player is not scoring it’s affecting his confidence, it’s affecting the mood and probably the belief. But you have to rebel against this situation, don’t accept it and feel sorry for yourself.”

Then, shortly before kick-off on Saturday, Arteta revealed that Aubameyang would be absent due to a disciplinary breach. There was an expectation that the manager would address the situation more fully in his post-match press conference, but when the moment arrived, he would not be drawn.

For some at Arsenal, Saturday was a display of strong management from Arteta. He took a clear, principled stance on a situation, and was effectively vindicated by a positive result. All players are expected to meet the same standards of behaviour — there are no exceptions made for captaincy or star status.

For others around the club, the affair was an unnecessary case of airing dirty laundry in public. If it feels like this kind of incident happens too often at Arsenal, it may simply be because we hear more about it. There are disciplinary issues at football clubs all over the country, but in most cases the sanctity of the dressing room is preserved. Arsene Wenger was not averse to obfuscating about a player’s absence in order to keep matters private.

It would appear that, in this instance, Arteta felt that approach was not appropriate. There are many factors to consider in such a situation. Why lie, when the matter might well become public at a later date? But providing a small amount of information, without full context, also leads to speculation. A lack of clarity means the nature of Aubameyang’s indiscretion is subject to rumour and gossip.

Since then, however, the player has struggled to show his best form — albeit in a team falling short of expectations. He scored 10 goals in 29 league appearances last season, comfortably his lowest tally in a full season at Arsenal. In 2021-22, he has just four league goals in 14 league games.

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There are those around Arsenal who will attest to Aubameyang being a popular figure with players and staff, but the opinion is not universally shared. Others feel that even though concessions have been made for him, he has not always toed the line. They argue that while Arteta has shown a willingness to bend the rules for Aubameyang, the player still manages to break them.

Despite Aubameyang’s broad popularity, there are certainly those within the Arsenal camp who question his suitability for the captaincy. He was given the role by Unai Emery, after Granit Xhaka was stripped of the captaincy following his on-field fallout with fans during a game against Crystal Palace. Although influential within the squad, he is not a stereotypical leader — and while accusations about his wider commitment or attitude appear unfounded, punctuality is clearly not a strong point.

In his own playing career, Arteta captained Arsenal. He was professional to the extreme, but suffered no fools and was not universally liked. Aubameyang is a very different kind of skipper: much more affable, but somewhat less disciplined. Aubameyang is frequently described as a gregarious but emotional character — one that may require particular managerial sensitivity. Aubameyang has worked with a variety of well-regarded managers: Wenger, Unai Emery, Thomas Tuchel, Jurgen Klopp. With the notable exception of one incident with Tuchel, when he was dropped for “internal reasons”, he has largely enjoyed positive relationships with his coaches.

Arteta’s man-management skills have been called into question before. Aubameyang is not the first player to fall foul of his “non-negotiables” — the very phrase implying a degree of inflexibility. It’s an admirable egalitarian principle, but the reality is that dressing rooms are comprised of different personalities, who sometimes need different approaches. Arteta is still at the beginning of his managerial career, and it’s inevitable that establishing behavioural boundaries will come via a degree of trial and error. Only time will tell us whether he has handled this incident successfully or not.
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Trajan said:
Arteta seems like he lurches from leniency to draconian measures to claw back control
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I know it's not going to be discussed much because we're crap but Arteta is developing a track record of poor man management.
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I thought he turned a corner this season but in the last month I've been disappointed with his man management again.

Clubs need discipline but his methods get undermined by his actions as long as Xhaka walks in and out of the team.
 
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Trajan said:
His latest breach wasn't particularly egregious imo. Especially to be dropped from the team plus loss of armband. I guess all past infractions added together make it a bad look.

He doesn't seem captain material anyway....too chilled.

Ozil Auba about to sit on the bench earning a fat packet while sending subliminal social media shots at Arteta
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We don't know if there's other issues. :manny: it's also not his first time even this season.

I just think it's a burden he never wanted to carry.
 
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