Essential The Official Football (Soccer) Thread - Put My Fries in the Ten Bag

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Gilver said:
I think we end the window having signed two CBs and a left back. I think the left back will depend on sales depending on who it is, we've been linked with the lad from Fenerbache Ferdi Kadıoğlu(looked good at the Euros), Kerkez(expensive) and Chilwell(hmm no thanks) so far.

If AWB goes we could look at a right back too but not heard/seen any movement on that.

We want Ugarte for midfield, any further CM signings will hinge on Casemiro's future.

There's rumours of another attacker in addition to Zirkzee as well but again, sales needed.
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To be honest, I’m just happy that we’re doing multiple deals at once. :pachaha:
 
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Jalether said:
Facts.

The sneijder WPOTY snub in particular was a travesty.

Also Look what's happened to goalkeeping as well, the first and most important stats/factor for judging and rating them nowadays isn't their pure goalkeeping skills but their
ability to play out from the back. GK's like Petr cech,Peter schmeichel,Buffon et al would struggle to play for a big team nowadays
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The standard of goalkeeping has always been poor. Even many of the greats of yesterday's era weren't all-round keepers. Forget the footballing ability of the modern keeper. The only real improvement has been the overall athleticism and keepers becoming taller. It was fairly common for keepers to be 5'10-6'1in the good old days. Jordan Pickford in the 70's-90's would be considered a tall keeper. Look at Donnarumma he's 6'5 and has no command of his area or of his defence. He won't leave the line when its a cross or high ball. And this has been an issue for keepers for decades. You can watch goals from the 80-00's and see many low/near post shots go in or the keeper has poor positioning let alone the concentration. And these are the keepers who are just below the elite level guys back then.

When you watch goals from the old World Cup Euros or CL archives you really get to see just how poor the goalkeeping levels were.
 
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@Liu Kang whats up with this Ligue 1 TV contract situation? I saw they about to get less than they got 20 years ago with Canal telling them to eff themselves.
 
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mastermind said:
@Liu Kang whats up with this Ligue 1 TV contract situation? I saw they about to get less than they got 20 years ago with Canal telling them to eff themselves.
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It's a mess like many things in the country right now. I don't know all the specifics but overall it's full of arrogance and ego and it goes like this

Ligue 1 has steadily gotten higher rights (they are split into lots to maximize value) over the years and the historical broadcaster was Canal+. They greatly helped building the brand when it was still called Division 1. But for the past 15 years or so, they've been at odds while still being partners.

Ligue 1 always wanted more and Canal+ always low balled them. Ligue 1 always had this dream of getting 1B/year. In 2014, when Bein Sports launched, they thought they could but Hollande intervened to split the rights with Canal+ which ended up being around 750M/year.

Since 2018 though, it's broken because that's when Mediapro bought 80% of the rights for 2020-2024 for 820M ! And 20% remaining (better matches) for Bein/Canal+ was 330M and that totaled at 1.15B/year. Canal+ at the time valued the whole thing at 800M and that price was already overvalued.

However Mediapro was a shaky entity (not even a broadcaster, just a broker) which already failed in Italy and at that time, Saada (head of Canal+) had a famous interview where he ran the numbers live to say that was unsustainable and Mediapro would fail in 2 years.



He and most people who had look at them were right as Mediapro failed right at the time Covid hit. So at that time (2021) Canal+ told them to redo a tender and we can save you but at the actual value of around 600M/year for the whole domestic rights.

Then Amazon made an offer of 200M for Mediapro's part (down from 800 lol) and to spite Canal+, Ligue 1 accepted. Canal+ had keep that remaining 20% at the original inflated price they agreed. They sued but lost. There was also a remaining 50 for another broadcaster but the total was 600M then as well.

So in 2023, the Ligue still dreamed of the billy though hoped for 800M and launched their tender with that in mind even though the actual value was probably around 650M. And that was while tv rights for every other leagues decreased a lot.

But now, Messi, Neymar and Mbappé left the Ligue so there's no superstar anymore. Also :
- Qatar and Bein doesnt want to invest much in PSG and Ligue 1 as well
- Canal+ don't care any more
- Ligue 1 dreamed of Apple but that was just a dream
- after Covid, the league was almost bankrupted and accepted a deal with CVC where they would give them 1.1B cash in exchange of 13% of all future revenue... for life...
- All in all, nobody really likes Ligue 1 like that any more.

So DAZN came and valued the 80% rights lot for 375M and overall 500M for all rights.

Ligue 1 president obviously thinks this is too low as clubs budgeted for 800M rights. So he has this idea of creating its own platform with Warner where he somehow would reach 2M subscribers at 30€/month (just for Ligue 1 lol)

For comparison, Bein Sports is 15/month and has La Liga, Buli, NBA, WTA tour, Euro etc..

Pure arrogance the whole debacle.
 
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