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this nikka said Pogba isnt world class :russ:

I said he is a very good player, but not WC. You acting like I said he Carlton Palmer with a greenlight?

It goes to show how influential the media is now. We saw what he did at Juve, Euro 2016 and the lasy WC. When guys say things like this I'm not even sure where to take the conversation.

:stopitslime: Mou Sissoko was better than Pogba in the Euros. Sissoko vs Germany and Portugal, better than anything Pogba did in that tournament.
 

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I'm not big on arguing about football breh. I think Pogba just like Bale is inconsistent and extremely temperamental. But he's undoubtedly world class.
Rather can you suggest to us what some of :pachaha:your favorite players, current and bygone are, favorite legendary teams, coaches, documentaries etc instead of arguing about what month a football genius declined in
 

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I'm not big on arguing about football breh. I think Pogba just like Bale is inconsistent and extremely temperamental. But he's undoubtedly world class.
Rather can you suggest to us what some of :pachaha:your favorite players, current and bygone are, favorite legendary teams, coaches, documentaries etc instead of arguing about what month a football genius declined in

Phuck off, dont do that, after posting multiple walls of text and videos. :camby:

I highlight Dec 2005, because that was when or just after the Real Madrid game, he never ever came close to even hitting half of those heights again of dominating big games, that was his Magnum Opus. 2006 was:scust:.

Why you want to know my favourite players and teams for breh? Is it a subtle trap? You thinking I'm on:mjpls: because I'm not stanning Pogba and Dinho like that.
 
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Juninho is a low hanging fruit tho coz that cracker was an alien. I can explain the above mentioned techniques, i still have no idea what and how Juninho made a football change 4 different directions mid air ... :patrice:..I'm still gobsmacked by his technique. Remember what he did to Barcelona/Valldez when he was at Lyon 2009..:pachaha:



Mihajlovic an ass hole, ALL great footballers are self absorbed kunts tho :yeshrug:

Juninho's technique until this day baffles me. Some of his kicks made no sense
 

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Robben been a great player but I don't think he been the best anything, ever.
 

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Arjen Robben when fully fit was THE best player in the league af age 20 in 2005. I know this coz i watched the whole damn season.

This should end all debate. The Damian Duff, Robben Blitz Krieg is still talked about to this day.

Dinho showing signs of aging by the end of 2005???

This was end of 2005 and he got a standing ovation.

Also do you remember the no-look pass in 2006 CL semi final vs AC Milan at the San Siro to set up Giuly's goal which took Barca to the final?

There was no decline. People forget that the 2006 Arsenal team is in the Top 3 of the greatest modern football teams to not win a CL along 2003 Juve and 2000-2004 Valencia.

I really think you're letting Thierry Henry's legend blind you here. 2005 Gerrard was fire, Henry is GOAT but boy i have never seem a winger as explosive and lethal with the cut in as 2005 Robben. He won multiple plauer of the month awards that injury riddled season.

Also do you not consider that 2005 Chelsea team the best in EPL history, their demolition job of Barcenola in that first half is still one of the most electrifying games of football I've ever watched, including Barca's comeback.

What i find extremely difficult about discussing football with the newer fans is that they're not only not knowledgeable and show no innate desire to learn football, i truly believe most newer fans use football strictly as a melodrama. They've swapped super hero movies and all that goofy stuff they watched as kids like Dragon Ball Z/WWF for football. The nauseating "Messi vs Ronaldo" debates, any assertion of someone being the GOAT and they've never even watched a highlights package of Maradona at Napoli, 89/90 Van Basten, 2005 Adriano, prime 1996/97 Ronaldo Fenomeno so many players who's primes however short or long were just gifts from the ancestors. Remember 2003 Nedved? Imagine Modric and Gareth Bale all in one player with the BMT of Drogba.


Im going on a tangent but if you know you know. Pusssssh.

whose mans is this
 

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:yes:

That Baggio miss at the WC :damn:

Stan Collymore and the Spice Boys :pachaha:

That Tony Yeboah goal :krs:

On my birthday too :banderas:

He scored another banger vs Wimbledon as well that season.

And while we're on Mr Yeboah, he has one of the GOAT stories about him, too.

Coventry City forward Peter Ndlovu has accused Leeds United hero Tony Yeboah of sleeping with the Zimbabwe's manager’s wife during the 2006 African Cup of Nations as an act of revenge.

Writing in his monthly column for footyhighlights.com, Ndlovu – who scored 39 goals in 176 Premier League games during his 1991-1997 stint at Highfield Road – claimed that the incident took place after he had helped his Zimbabwe side to a shock 2-1 win over Ghana, a result which saw neither side progress to the next stage of the competition.

Ndlovu wrote: “We had just played our final group game, ending on a high by beating a strong Ghana side but still crashing out of the tournament.

“At the hotel that night we decided to have a few drinks and toast to our victory. I had invited my friend, who I can’t name for legal reasons (fans of English football will remember him from his highly successful period with Leeds United), along as he had been watching the match.

“The lads started giving my friend a lot of stick for his country’s loss, especially our head coach. My friend was taking it quite gracefully but, as a proud Ghanaian, I could sense his patience was wearing thin. Nevertheless, the drinks kept flowing and so did the jokes.

“It came to the end of the night and some of the lads had disappeared to bed, most notably our coach and my friend. Now during the whole tournament the manager had personally entered the hotel rooms of our most lazy players (Benjani was the worst) and pulled them out of bed in the morning to get ready for training so myself and a couple of the other lads decided to repeat the routine on him.

“We got the keys from reception and seven of us bundled into his hotel room at 4 a.m. To our horror it was not our coach who we found in bed, it was my friend. The worst part was that he was having sex with the coach’s wife!

“I quickly rounded the boys up and ushered them out of the room, frantically hoping to keep a lid on the situation. After all, it was I who invited him to the party! We found the coach in one of the hotel bathrooms. He had had far too much to drink and crashed out.

“The next morning, at breakfast, I quizzed my friend about what happened and he delivered a line which I will remember all my life: ‘When a man insults my country, I insult him by taking his woman’.

“Our manager did eventually find out about the incident and I think he separated from his wife for a period. The last I heard though was that they are back together and he’s now coaching in the USA.”

Although Yeboah – a legend at the Elland Road club where he scored 33 goals in 62 appearances between 1995 and 1997 – has since denied Ndlovu’s claims but as of yet has not sought to take the matter any further.

Yeboah has since been quoted as saying: “I must say with all sincerity that these allegations are completely false and not good for my image.”



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But all this stuff as a guy who watched this so-called golden era is a bunch of revisionist bullshyt. Example Zidane didn't do nothing at Madrid once Del Bosque left, he had zero motivation fof all the crappy politics, but when he decided to turn on the magic he would, ala 2006 WC after 3 mediocre years at Madrid.
So when people talk about eras it's just weird.

The best passer of a footballer that time was none of these so-called legends like Xavi, it was the Portuguese maestro Rui Costa.
His genius is summed un in one play in 2003 vs Real Madrid a massive massive game at the San Siro.


Other immensely celebrated and loved players were Henriik Larsson who came off the bench in the 2006 CL Final in Paris and did what Deco and Xavi could not do all game, unlock the Arsenal defence.


Juventus is and was the most electrifying team to watch play football followed and tied the art that was AC Milan from.
There's no such thing as the dominance of this and that player coz Samuel Etoo won Barcelona the 2006 and 2009 Finals in Paris and Rome but in revisionist history it was Messi.

I simply do not subscribe to the notion that because capitalistic greed, mass marketing and overall media hype etc have created pathetic ethic in football that has lead to a demise in not only the quality of footballers, the standard of coaching, the atmosphere in the stadiums, the overall discussions and culture etc that doesn't necessarily make the mid 2000s a golden era. That era is simply how football is and should be.

Something i would greatly caution Americans from is equating 80s Celtics /Lakers, 90s Pistons, Bulls, Knicks etc NBA
with football. And using all those American talking points like "eras of dominance"... The CL is just too damn hard and you need to much luck for you to start talking about "dominance" Madrid required extra time twice, and a penalty shootout to win 2 (both against Atletico). Barca 2009 Iniesta miracle with "That Norwegian Ref" was tons of luck, no dominance at all in that semi vs Chelsea, we all know the 2005 Milan choke and the 2006 AC Milan 2nd leg game where Shevchenko's goal and away goal was called offside, there was no team "dominating" world class teams were battling it out to death and after 5 years some had 1 CL title, others had 2,others had 0,others had treble seasons but i do not remember any team being dominant.

Football is a soooooooooo big and deeply entrenched and the talent pool was always always real deep. There's really no eras if you watched back then. Even Madrid were lucky as hell in 1998,more a Juve choke.
I wish i could explain it better but certainly don't use American sports mentality coz that's one of the biggest problem in football now.




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Phuck off, dont do that, after posting multiple walls of text and videos. :camby:

I highlight Dec 2005, because that was when or just after the Real Madrid game, he never ever came close to even hitting half of those heights again of dominating big games, that was his Magnum Opus. 2006 was:scust:.

Why you want to know my favourite players and teams for breh? Is it a subtle trap? You thinking I'm on:mjpls: because I'm not stanning Pogba and Dinho like that.
Breh come on. Who are some of your favorite players. You just told me the player of the decade declined in his prime and the best winger of the decade was meh. :mjcry:

My favorite striker that time was actually Crespo coz he made every finish look like art:wow:
whilst still being just as devastating/Prolific as Shevchenko, Inzaghi, Trezeguet, Ruud etc


Who are your personal favorites. If they're legitimate i won't go in, if they're suspect you getting all the smoke. I'm talking keepers, CB (Nesta) CDM (Makalele) CM (Ballack) CAM/10s (Rui Costa/Guti/Pablo Aimar/Pirlo) LW/RW and of course CFs so we can tell where your tastes or lack thereof :troll:
 

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Is there any people who watched early to mid 90's football :skip:



:stopitslime:

Sancho can clearly play in Spain. Stones, Trent, Winks, also.

Patrick Roberts :skip:

If Vinny Samways can have a decent career in Spain, then so can others.

Bonucci isnt a great defender, tbh. Lovely passer of a ball, but he is what 3rd, 4th best in his own team. Doubt he even makes it top 15 of I've seen from Italy and that includes 2 of his current teammates.

Fair. About all those but I think Sterling outclasses those guys. And if its about watching the game the Bonnuci imo brings something more to Juve (not so much Milan lol) than just defending. Georgio is the better defender that's for sure. But he brought intelligence and toughness.

But what I WILL say is that while I agree that stats are something people are much too obsessed with (part of the reason why as much as I love Lacazette, I think Giroud fit what Dechamps was trying to do more) I think that constantly shytting on them just makes people look old, tired and ungrateful. Without superfans the sport wouldn't STILL be growing, more and more black faces (especially in America) would'nt be getting into it. I'm not gonna slam people because they value different things in their footballers. The same thing happens to every sport under the sun...:manny:
 

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Remember watching early 00’s Dinho on the Arabic Al Jazeera Sports ( bein’s predecessor). Classic commentary and classic era.
 
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