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Watched the replay of this morning's show. I like how :skip: steady mentioned Ginobili got fouled at the end throughout the show, but never brought up how he traveled :laugh:
 

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:salute: the legend michael eric dyson. one of my idols


:wtb: but leave them damn sports comparisons to the experts dyson, aint no damn kobe a better "player" than jordan.

if you want to say kobe had a better pain threshold fine. but jordan by 91 mastered how to win. kobe never reached that level.

By '91 The Bulls had been together for a few years and were solidly built in the mold of the 80's teams. They benefitted greatly from that. Jordan didn't master anything, he just had the superior teams at that said time. If Chicago didn't get Rodman they would have never 3Peated a second time. People like to pretend Jordan won by himself, but it's total bullshyt. He played with the best SF of the 90's. The best defensive PF of the 90's. One of the most celebrated foreign players. Jordan had help out of the ass.
 

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today's guests:
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Will they speculate about Aaron Hernandez? Probably insufficient info to say much.

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Once again the media takes pressure off Duncan.

Steven A saying he's playing with house money:comeon:. If he loses its someone else fault but if he wins then catapults him up the great list. That nicca Duncan wants to win just as badly as anyone else on that court.
 
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Once again the media takes pressure off Duncan.

Steven A saying he's playing with house money:comeon:. If he loses its someone else fault but if he wins then catapults him up the great list. That nicca Duncan wants to win just as badly as anyone else on that court.

How can you tear down a dudes legacy for what he does at the end of his career :what:
 

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By '91 The Bulls had been together for a few years and were solidly built in the mold of the 80's teams. They benefitted greatly from that. Jordan didn't master anything, he just had the superior teams at that said time. If Chicago didn't get Rodman they would have never 3Peated a second time. People like to pretend Jordan won by himself, but it's total bullshyt. He played with the best SF of the 90's. The best defensive PF of the 90's. One of the most celebrated foreign players. Jordan had help out of the ass.

no offense, but what the hell are you saying that has to do with what i stated? who said jordan won anything by himself? who said he didnt have help? and are you attempting to tell me jordan had a better roster than kobe?

im talking individual players. jordan by 91 developed how to score and let the game come to him, rather than look like he was jacking up a ton of shots hoping to get hot and win the game. jordan knew when to take over and when to fall back. when to facilitate and when to dominate. when to allow the double to come and get open shots for guys, and when to say fukk the double team and score anyway.

and in reality, i hate making this debate because scottie is one of favs of all time, but yall continue to talk of scottie like he was a superstar 2nd option next to jordan on the level of shaq or gasol and bynum next to kobe, or kareem next to magic, or mchale next to bird or even healthy wade next to lebron.

scottie was more a utility guy who did the little shyt. defend, assist run the offense etc. he was more loul deng than he was a healthy wade as far as his role. not saying scottie was on the level of deng he def was a star but as far as roles, jordan was still relied upon to carry a ton of the scoring. it wasnt like it was so many games in the season he could step back and let scottie get busy like them other dudes could do.

and rodman was a great defender, and great rebounder but was a liability on offense which meant teams could send the double to jordan, and kukoc was a liability on defense so teams would go at his position. you would have to had watched the bulls in the 90's to know this.

but i was talking about individual play. nobody talking about jordon doing anything by himself. jordan knew when to take over and fall back. especially by time he got the 2nd 3 peat.
 
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