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New York knicks and phoenix suns stan
Who he fighting?
ChocolateGiddyUp
Superstar
its crazy without the gloves fukkery which was the official reason for the L, there was a high chance he would have been killed in the final roundAll that referees fault
malbaker86
Gators
unfukkin real...everybody involved in that fight - doctor, referee, corners - don't deserve to be out there again. it was an awful match that never should've gotten to that level.
Charles Martin Begins Comeback From Shooting, KO Loss April 25
By Keith Idec
Charles Martin’s comeback officially will begin April 25 in Tunica, Mississippi.
BoxingScene.com has learned that the former IBF heavyweight champion likely will face Byron Polley in a non-televised, 10-round fight at Fitzgeralds Casino & Hotel. Martin’s return will take place on the undercard of an FS1 “Toe-To-Toe Tuesdays” telecast that’ll feature former American Olympian Oscar Molina (13-1-1, 10 KOs) and Georgia’s Levan Ghvamichava (17-3-1, 13 KOs) in the 10-round main event.
The 30-year-old Martin (23-1-1, 21 KOs) hasn’t fought since England’s Anthony Joshua (18-0, 18 KOs) dropped him twice and knocked out Martin in the second round to take the IBF title last April 9 at O2 Arena in London. The 37-year-old Polley, a journeyman from St. Joseph, Missouri, is 30-20-1 (13 KOs, 3 NC).
The left-handed Martin had planned to fight last fall, but was shot in the right forearm during an unsolved August 2 incident in downtown Los Angeles. According to published reports, an unknown assailant shot Martin, who was a passenger in a car, and fled the scene.
Martin underwent emergency surgery to treat his wound, but hasn’t discussed the incident publicly. According to the police report, Martin looked down at a pool of blood and said, “I said to myself, ‘I gotta get outta here. I’m gonna die. I’m gonna bleed to death. I have to pay respect to the cops. They saved my life.’ ”
Martin declined to discuss the shooting, how it has affected him or his upcoming fight with BoxingScene.com.
He is focused on getting back in the ring to begin putting what began as a promising 2016 behind him. Martin has hired Javan Hill to train him at the new Kronk Gym in Detroit.
Hill, a nephew of late legend Emanuel Steward, also trains WBC light heavyweight champion Adonis Stevenson (28-1, 23 KOs) and former WBC super middleweight champion Anthony Dirrell (30-1-1, 24 KOs).
Hill is trying to help a rusty Martin regain the form that enabled him to get into position to fight for the IBF title. Martin won the then-unclaimed championship in January 2016, when Ukraine’s Vyacheslav Glazkov (21-1-1, 13 KOs) suffered a serious knee injury in the third round of their title fight and couldn’t continue at Brooklyn’s Barclays Center.
Martin won the IBF title Tyson Fury relinquished after the embattled Brit upset Wladimir Klitschko by unanimous decision in November 2015 in Dusseldorf, Germany.
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The axe murderer
For I am death and I ride on a pale horse
Damn didn't know about the shooting
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malbaker86
Gators
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Burns got a solid chin
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Andre Ward's Perspective on Role Race Plays in How He is Covered
By Keith Idec
NEW YORK – Andre Ward answered the loaded question thoughtfully and honestly.
Race is always a sensitive subject, particularly for star athletes taught to avoid such potentially controversial conversations with the media. Ward joked that he had hoped to get “in and out” of an interview session with a small group of reporters Monday morning without discussing that provocative topic.
When Ward was asked if he thinks “this industry views African-American fighters” differently, the easy answer would’ve been, “Yes.” It’s a complicated matter, though, and if you should anything about Andre Ward by now, it’s that the unbeaten light heavyweight champion generally doesn’t do easy.
Not at the negotiating table. Not in court. Not when assessing the public’s perception of him.
So, seated at the head of a long, rectangular table in a Manhattan hotel ballroom, looking at the faces of mostly white reporters, Ward went into enlightening detail on this often-divisive issue.
Ultimately, the cerebral boxer believes branding someone a racist simply because you don’t like something he or she wrote, or said on television or radio, about you is an irresponsible, dangerous game to play. However, Ward acknowledged there have been times when patterns of what Ward considered unfair and/or incomplete reporting has made him wonder whether race really was at the root of some criticism.
“That’s a tricky subject because do I see things at times that make me scratch my head? Absolutely,” Ward said. “I’ve got two eyes, two ears and I’ve watched the history of the sport. But where I have to stop myself is I can’t judge another man or woman’s intentions. And that’s where it’s tricky. I can’t say, ‘You’re this,’ or ‘You don’t like black fighters.’ I could be dead wrong. Maybe I perceived an article or perceived a question [incorrectly]. So I try to keep myself honest.
“I see things that I scratch my head about, things that sometimes are blatant that I don’t like. But then I try to come back to neutral and say, ‘But you don’t fully know.’ I can’t judge a person’s intentions. So I try to keep it there. I try to keep a balanced view, where I see things and I do have an opinion. But I do reserve the right to be wrong. I may be wrong. So if you’re gonna go down that road, you’ve gotta have some tangible proof. It can’t be just your opinion because in that case, then you kinda stir up the pot and it’s like, ‘OK, what next? You said this. Now where’s the proof?’ That’s a pretty strong coat to put on somebody.”
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The 33-year-old Ward (31-0, 15 KOs) brings a well-rounded perspective to this complex subject because the Hayward, California, native was born out of an interracial relationship.
“And again, I’ve talked to you guys about this before,” Ward continued. “You know, my father was white and my mother was black. So I know both sides. I know about the rejection from both sides. I know about the challenges from both sides. So I feel like I can talk about it. But I’ve gotta be careful if I talk about it, to know what I’m talking about.”
Race undoubtedly has become a simmering subplot in Ward’s evolving rivalry with Russia’s Sergey Kovalev, who Ward will fight again June 17 at Mandalay Bay Events Center in Las Vegas. That’s evident everywhere from our own forums and comment sections at BoxingScene.com to heated debates on social media and elsewhere on the Internet.
Though it has become beyond obvious that they genuinely don’t like each other, Ward and Kovalev themselves haven’t turned theirs into a racial rivalry. Their handlers talked more about the United States-Russia rivalry as they’ve promoted their HBO Pay-Per-View rematch this week during a press tour that stopped in New York, Oakland and Los Angeles.
Ward does feel, however, that Kovalev (30-1-1, 26 KOs), for a reason he didn’t identify, has generally been afforded a benefit of the doubt in defeat that he would not have been granted had he lost. The former undisputed super middleweight champion doesn’t think he has been given enough credit, either, for getting off the canvas in the second round against the hard-hitting Kovalev, regaining his composure, taking control of their 12-round fight in its second half and finding a way to win the IBF, WBA and WBO 175-pound championships from Kovalev on November 19 at T-Mobile Arena in Las Vegas.
The 2004 Olympic gold medalist’s take on how he feels many boxing fans and media haven’t given him much margin for error in or out of the ring was what led a black reporter to ask Ward the aforementioned question about how Ward feels race has affected the way he is covered.
“To be able to do what I did, man, it really took my game to another level physically, but also mentally,” said Ward, who is commonly considered one of the top three fighters, pound-for-pound, in boxing. “To know you can go through something like that and come from behind – I don’t think I’ve ever had to come from behind like that in a professional fight. So to do that, and I think that’s gotten lost in all of this. I feel like certain fighters would’ve got the, ‘Oh, my God! It was the greatest comeback in boxing history!’ But because I don’t always get that kind of response, it keeps me grounded. And I think what some may think is hurting me, those types of responses are really helping me. I haven’t had a chance to rest on my laurels. I’ve enjoyed the victory and enjoyed my belts, but my mind is steady working. I’m in great shape right now.
“And like I told you guys before the fight, they said, ‘Why do you have to win? What do you have to do?’ I said, ‘I have to win. Why? Because I won’t have a soft cushion to fall on. I won’t get the benefit of the doubt. And I’m not complaining, but I’m being honest with you.’ I said, ‘But if he does [lose], they’ll justify it and he’ll get the benefit of the doubt.’ And you see that. Have your opinion about the decision, but it’s extra stuff that comes on top of that. That’s why he wasn’t able to dig deep, because he knows he has a soft cushion to fall on. When you know you’re gonna hit that hard concrete, you do everything you can to stay up.”
Well played Ward. That commen section tho
He answered as tactfully as possible. Dudes just wanna bytch for bytching's sake
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The axe murderer
For I am death and I ride on a pale horse
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Gutknecht Will Never Fully Recover From Injuries in Groves Fight
By Per Ake Persson
Eduard Gutknecht, who was seriously injured in the fight against George Groves in November, will never make a full recovery, writes German website boxenplus.de.
Julia Gutknecht, Eddie´s wife and the mother of their three children, indicates that the message from the doctors is that the damage to the brain is severe and that it's a miracle that Eddie even survived.
The former fighter is now in a wheelchair, in need of constant care and so far he is unable to speak. There is hope for improvements but not for a full recovery. He is still hospitalized and in rehabilitation.
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In the fight with Groves, he lost a twelve round unanimous decision although many felt the referee should have stopped the contest in the earlier rounds. Gutknecht collapsed in the dressing room following the bout and was taken to hospital where he underwent surgery for swelling to the brain.
Gutknecht turned pro with Spotlight Boxing back in 2006 and got his big break in 2009 when he beat Karoly Balzsay. When Spotlight / Universum folded, Eddie was signed up by Sauerland Event and fought some big fights.
In 2014 Sauerland and Gutknecht parted ways and he retired but came back later that year and signed with Wiking Boxteam in 2015 and then fought then WBA light heavyweight champ Juergen Braehmer and later Groves in what was his final fight.
There was a benefit show in December in Bielefeld staged by Wiking Boxteam, but apparently there is a big need for more help and the Gutknecht family and Wiking have since parted ways
