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Terence Crawford isn't some random up n comer. He's solidified in the sport as the Lineal/RING/WBA/WBC Champion at a division Manny is willing to drag up 2 divisions to face the much easier, less drawing, Lomachenko at.....and he's ranked #5 P4P and has the same management and promoter as Pacquiao has. Arum wants to make the fight. Roach/Koncz are already on record saying they refuse to let Pacquiao face him. If that isn't a blatant duck, then what is.:yeshrug:
Only nikka blatently ducking is Buscuits. Last legit contender anyone cared about that he faced and Lost one sided was Porter almost 2 years ago. aint made no noise since... and its funny how you wanna call Pac out for not fighting Crawford, last I checked Crawford was in Broners division not Pacquiao's.. But we both know that underachieving c00n dont want no smoke with either one frfr

As far as Pac blatently ducking, Arum and Pacquiao have both stated they willing to make the Crawford fight as well as the Lomachenko fight.. its not one and not the other...BOTH.. never once said they want to make a fight with Lomachenko OVER Crawford...

Broner is just a bigger name than RING/WBC/ABC champion.. this is literally the only reason that fight is being entertained.. more people would rather watch a c00n get his ass beat






For some odd reason though, I feel like if Terence Crawford was exactly who he is today, but he was a PBC fighter instead of a TR fighter, and Floyd was still active instead of Pacquiao, you wouldn't be saying Floyd can "do whatever he wants" as he avoids Crawford for the 2nd time in a row........but instead is entertaining dropping down to fight with Robert Easter Jr at 140:jbhmm:



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:stopitslime:
Aint no different than when Floyd came back and fought Marquez instead of Mosely or Berto instead of Thurman or Brook
 

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he took breaks vs porter too tho...lol he didn't slug every min.

I remember the commentators saying "he takes one break to stick n move and crowd starts booing''

that's why people started with "run time"...every time he gets hurt to the body or tired he moves. keith knows his limits.

yeah danny can win no doubt I just don't think he will.
It's a 50/50 fight, and the more I examine it, the more I think this is true. Both have things that could trouble the other, it's just a matter of who executes5 their game plan better.

IMO the key to victory for Thurman should be distance. Keep the fight at mid range and out harms reach, Thurman should be good. Most people feel Thurman is the bigger puncher, but I feel like Swift has the advantage in a firefight. Benter counter puncher and better chin. Then again, not sure Danny has faced a puncher like Thurman. Except for Matthyse. But Thurman is bigger though and is more accurate, although I'd probably say Lucas is heavier handed :manny:

What say you @Yuzo? How would you break down One Time vs Swift?
 

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Terence Crawford isn't some random up n comer. He's solidified in the sport as the Lineal/RING/WBA/WBC Champion at a division Manny is willing to drag up 2 divisions to face the much easier, less drawing, Lomachenko at.....and he's ranked #5 P4P and has the same management and promoter as Pacquiao has. Arum wants to make the fight. Again, his promoter wants & pushed this fight to happen already once. Roach/Koncz are already on record saying they refuse to let Pacquiao face him. If that isn't blatantly avoiding, then what is.:yeshrug:



For some odd reason though, I feel like if Terence Crawford was exactly who he is today, but he was a PBC fighter instead of a TR fighter, and Floyd was still active instead of Pacquiao, you wouldn't be saying Floyd can "do whatever he wants" as he avoids Crawford for the 2nd time in a row........but instead is entertaining dropping down to fight with Robert Easter Jr at 140:jbhmm:



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I have said multiple times that Floyd , if he came back, would be free to do the same thing and I wouldn't consider it a duck.
You are typing these long ass tomes for no reason because Manny and Floyd can fight whoever they want to fight and I don't consider it a duck. That is my stated position and it won't change regardless of how many of your favorite fighters get denied their request to fight either Manny or Floyd. Now I may not care to watch whatever bouts they do decide on but I give them that level of respect for what they have done and what point they are at in their careers.
Honestly I have never been one of the dudes throwing out that some guy is ducking someone else every two seconds any way.
Between constant calls of "ducking" and everybody playing boxer's financial managers shyt get tiresome in this thread real quick.
 

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In this edition of "Best I Faced" - Vinnie Paz

BEST JAB
Roy Jones Jr.:
There were quite a few guys who had a great jab, Greg Haugen was one, Hector Camacho was another his jab was fast as lightening, Roger Mayweather, Roy Jones Jr., always the great Roberto Duran, he had that little short quick jab. I would have to say Roy Jones Jr. was the best.

BEST DEFENSE
Roberto Duran: When I first fought Duran he was in his 40s and I couldn’t believe how difficult a time I had hitting him in the beginning of the fight. I thought to myself, he must have been a beast [in his prime]. I followed him his whole career, I loved him, when I fought him he was older, he was hard for me to hit in the first four or five rounds and when the age caught up with him, you get older each round when your older, but he was a great defensive fighter. That’s the only reason he stuck around the game so long.

BEST CHIN
Duran: ‘
Cause in the second fight, he got old in the months between the fights. He slowed down a lot in the second fight and I was hitting him with bombs and I can hit. It was like hitting an Oak tree. [When asked if he was glad he fought the older version of Duran, Paz responded: “Absolutely (laughs), I don’t need that sh_t in my life!”]

FASTEST HANDS
Jones Jr.:
Jones was fast as hell, Hector Camacho was fast as lightening, at the time I fought Roger Mayweather he was fast as lightening. I fought a lot of fast guys. Roy was so fast. It was a bad night for me, people don’t realize (they think) you get in there and it’s all dandy, it’s not like that. There’s fighters that go in there with flu, colds, you’re not ready, it was a bad me and it was a great Roy Jones. Jones was at his best and I couldn’t get out the way of anything.

FASTEST FEET
Hector Camacho Sr.: He was as fast as lightening when he came up. When I tell you Hector Camacho was fast, he had his last great fight against me, Rest in Peace Hector Camacho.

SMARTEST
Duran:
I was hitting him with combinations and all of a sudden “Boom” he sends one to my nuts, that stopped everything, I took a knee and I don’t take a knee for anybody, the pain was one of the most I felt in the ring. That’s experience, he knew he’d stop (with) that and he did.

STRONGEST
Duran: Duran was strong as hell, it was like trying to move an Oak tree.

BEST PUNCHER
Duran:
He hit me and I was like, “What the f__k!” Real, real heavy handed. I’ll never forget the first time he hit me with a body shot, I was like, “I’ve got to take this for 12 rounds!? Oh my God!.” He was the best lightweight of all time. That’s incredible, what a statement. I joke around when I see Duran, I say, “You hit me the hardest and you were 90 when I fought you!,” he starts cracking up.

BEST SKILLS
Camacho Sr.: Hector Camacho was so hard to hit because he was left handed and real slippery, he had great boxing skills because he was so fast.

BEST OVERALL
Camacho Sr., Duran and Jones Jr.: I wouldn’t even say that cause Duran was the greatest, Roy Jones was the greatest, Hector Camacho was the greatest.

Anson: I need you to outright pick who the best overall you faced was, otherwise my editor will kick my ass.

Paz: Looks like you’re getting your ass kicked! [Laughs]

Best I Faced: Vinny Paz - The Ring
 

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Bruh you could Storify every tweet Terrence Crawford has ever posted and I wouldn't give a fukk. ts not a duck because Manny Pacquaio does not have to fight Terrence Crawford for any reason whatsoever.
When you get to the point where Manny is at you choose who you want to fight and there is nothing wrong with that.
That is one of the privileges of being a legend.
See this that bullshyt. We shouldn't be giving this nikka a pass. We don't do it with anyone else and we ain't going to with him.

If he don't fight who we want to see him fight he should get the fukk out of here. Especially when I see people pumping him up like he's back against Jesse fukking Vargas.
 

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In this edition of "Best I Faced" - Vinnie Paz

BEST JAB
Roy Jones Jr.:
There were quite a few guys who had a great jab, Greg Haugen was one, Hector Camacho was another his jab was fast as lightening, Roger Mayweather, Roy Jones Jr., always the great Roberto Duran, he had that little short quick jab. I would have to say Roy Jones Jr. was the best.

BEST DEFENSE
Roberto Duran:
When I first fought Duran he was in his 40s and I couldn’t believe how difficult a time I had hitting him in the beginning of the fight. I thought to myself, he must have been a beast [in his prime]. I followed him his whole career, I loved him, when I fought him he was older, he was hard for me to hit in the first four or five rounds and when the age caught up with him, you get older each round when your older, but he was a great defensive fighter. That’s the only reason he stuck around the game so long.

BEST CHIN
Duran: ‘
Cause in the second fight, he got old in the months between the fights. He slowed down a lot in the second fight and I was hitting him with bombs and I can hit. It was like hitting an Oak tree. [When asked if he was glad he fought the older version of Duran, Paz responded: “Absolutely (laughs), I don’t need that sh_t in my life!”]

FASTEST HANDS
Jones Jr.:
Jones was fast as hell, Hector Camacho was fast as lightening, at the time I fought Roger Mayweather he was fast as lightening. I fought a lot of fast guys. Roy was so fast. It was a bad night for me, people don’t realize (they think) you get in there and it’s all dandy, it’s not like that. There’s fighters that go in there with flu, colds, you’re not ready, it was a bad me and it was a great Roy Jones. Jones was at his best and I couldn’t get out the way of anything.

FASTEST FEET
Hector Camacho Sr.:
He was as fast as lightening when he came up. When I tell you Hector Camacho was fast, he had his last great fight against me, Rest in Peace Hector Camacho.

SMARTEST
Duran:
I was hitting him with combinations and all of a sudden “Boom” he sends one to my nuts, that stopped everything, I took a knee and I don’t take a knee for anybody, the pain was one of the most I felt in the ring. That’s experience, he knew he’d stop (with) that and he did.

STRONGEST
Duran:
Duran was strong as hell, it was like trying to move an Oak tree.

BEST PUNCHER
Duran:
He hit me and I was like, “What the f__k!” Real, real heavy handed. I’ll never forget the first time he hit me with a body shot, I was like, “I’ve got to take this for 12 rounds!? Oh my God!.” He was the best lightweight of all time. That’s incredible, what a statement. I joke around when I see Duran, I say, “You hit me the hardest and you were 90 when I fought you!,” he starts cracking up.

BEST SKILLS
Camacho Sr.:
Hector Camacho was so hard to hit because he was left handed and real slippery, he had great boxing skills because he was so fast.

BEST OVERALL
Camacho Sr., Duran and Jones Jr.:
I wouldn’t even say that cause Duran was the greatest, Roy Jones was the greatest, Hector Camacho was the greatest.

Anson: I need you to outright pick who the best overall you faced was, otherwise my editor will kick my ass.

Paz: Looks like you’re getting your ass kicked! [Laughs]

Best I Faced: Vinny Paz - The Ring

just in time for bleed for this which comes out on Friday..i wanted to go to the premiere of it last week at the providence mall but i had to go to the movie company's office in providence in order to exchange the tickets i got at the shoot to get new ones...during the week...couldn't do that :francis:..oh well ill see friday night
 
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