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Yall can use his fight vs N'Dam to try and downplay his draw, but context is needed, bc he went up against AB vs Shawn Porter & Andre Ward's return vs Paul Smith. No way was he gonna draw that night on US TV regardless.

and not only that it was the best fight of the night..the only mistake was oscar not putting that gem on HBO..only mistake
 

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granados-broner :ehh: wasn't expecting this but, granados is a much better opponent than burns. granados like hererra got on the end of a few tough decisions resulting into L's.

let's be real, can broner even make 140? :usure:

broner better get his shyt together, granados might be 19-4 but he aint no pushover. he not as strong a maidana or porter, and not on their level skill wise but he has a good beard and keeps the pressure on his opponent. wonder where this shyt gonna be at though? :lupe:

i have no problem considering who broner has faced at 140 in the past..granados been earned it with defeating a top 140 prospect in amir..broner HAS to be on point..no one has gotten an easy win over him
 

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Crawford calling out names now...trying to get him a 3rd belt:obama:


Troy dont want it.. He already beat Burns ass... Seems like Crawford the one playing games.. We both know who he should be calling out at 140 instead of them 2 right now... Either that or 147 is always an option :sas1:

He getting caught up in that "i need all the belts to feel whole" ggg bullshyt.. He already the man at 140.. Its time to start making "dare to be great" moves:obama:
 

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He sells out his hometown.


David Lemieux doesn't do big US TV numbers as he is not from the US. However, he does big attendance #'s in Canada.


His last fight on TV was as the co-main on Canelo/Khan HBO PPV and then vs GGG in the main event on HBO PPV.


Yall can use his fight vs N'Dam to try and downplay his draw, but context is needed, bc he went up against AB vs Shawn Porter & Andre Ward's return vs Paul Smith. No way was he gonna draw that night on US TV regardless.


The last time David Lemieux fought on HBO, vs Gabe Rosado, he did 1.16 million viewers.

Lemieux-Rosado HBO Tripleheader A Hit With Viewers - Boxing News



Jacobs BIGGEST fight, vs Quillin, he did 408k peak.

Jacobs-Quillin averages only 386K viewers on Showtime - Boxing News



Not to mention Jacobs just had a fight where 3/4ths of the crowd left BEFORE his main event fight.



Lemieux is a bigger draw than him.

So context is needed for Lemiuex, but not for Jacobs? His last fight on Spike was in Reading, PA not Barclays center.

Lemieux is a bigger draw in Canada. Jacobs is a bigger name/attraction/draw in the US.
 

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So context is needed for Lemiuex, but not for Jacobs? His last fight on Spike was in Reading, PA not Barclays center.

Lemieux is a bigger draw in Canada. Jacobs is a bigger name/attraction/draw in the US.
Lemieux Rosado wasn't in Canada and Jacobs never came close to drawing the rating that fight got in the US
 

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Lemieux Rosado wasn't in Canada and Jacobs never came close to drawing the rating that fight got in the US
Right. It was also part of a Boxing After Dark tripleheader, where Lemieux was being promoted as the "One who can take down triple G/someone to finally punch with him" and it was also on HBO, in 2014.

Put that Quillin/Jacobs fight on HBO, in 2014, it's doing similar numbers. In terms of overall 'draw' not just numbers, Jacobs is head and shoulders above Lemieux and y'all know that.
 

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Troy dont want it.. He already beat Burns ass... Seems like Crawford the one playing games.. We both know who he should be calling out at 140 instead of them 2 right now... Either that or 147 is always an option :sas1:

He getting caught up in that "i need all the belts to feel whole" ggg bullshyt.. He already the man at 140.. Its time to start making "dare to be great" moves:obama:


For some reason, they wont call each other out. They're just at a standstill and BOTH know that the biggest fight at 140 is them vs each other....yet they stay on mute.


The Boxing media wont push that fight either. I don't know why:mindblown:
 

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So context is needed for Lemiuex, but not for Jacobs? His last fight on Spike was in Reading, PA not Barclays center.

We're talking about TV ratings right? Because there is 0 chance for any of yall to say Lemieux isn't a bigger ticket seller than Jacobs.


On TV, 3/4ths of the paid audience left before Jacobs fought Mora in the rematch....and he did 187k viewers in the main event. His biggest matchup vs Quillin, he did only 408k peak viewers.


How do yall come to the conclusion that Jacobs is a bigger draw than Lemiuex, when Jacobs isn't even a bigger draw than Robert Easter Jr:heh:


65-35...get in the ring and fight or take 75/25 via purse bid. Lemieux at least brought a Championship to the table, which is how he earned his $$$, Jacobs brings nothing.


Lemieux is a bigger draw in Canada. Jacobs is a bigger name/attraction/draw in the US.


Lemieux's last 2 times fighting on non-ppv was 163k on FS1 going head to head against AB/Porter on CBS & Ward's return on BET and 1.16 million vs Rosado on HBO.


Jacobs last 2 times fighting on non-ppv, he did 187k on Spike and 408k on Showtime and went head up vs no one.
 

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A purse bid was held today in the IBF Office for the lightweight eliminator between Richard Commey and Dennis Shafikov. Warriors Boxing bid $61,000 and Sauerland Event bid $45,305. The fight has to be done by January 8, 2017.

These boxers get paid too much :mjpls:
 

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We're talking about TV ratings right? Because there is 0 chance for any of yall to say Lemieux isn't a bigger ticket seller than Jacobs.
I replied to your post up there breh. Does Jacobs sell more tickets in Reading, Pa than Lemieux does in Canada? Nah. If he fought triple g at Barclays does he bring in the same if not more people than Lemiux? IMO yes. But if you're talking %'s in terms of negotiating, Jacobs brings more to the table than Lemieux, and you know that breh.


Edit: But this is all based off of the WBA mando of 75/25 so really no need to discuss it unless they go beyond that.
 
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I replied to your post up there breh. Does Jacobs sell more tickets in Reading, Pa than Lemieux does in Canada? Nah. If he fought triple g at Barclays does he bring in the same if not more people than Lemiux? IMO yes.

Jacobs is from Brooklyn....and fought Quillin (also from Brooklyn) IN Brooklyn in front of 8400 people live and 408k on TV.

Lemieux is from Canada...and fought Rosado (from Philly) in Brooklyn in front of 6500 people live and 1.16 million on TV.


How is Jacobs only bringing in 1900 more people (and 700k less tv viewers) than a guy from Canada vs a guy from Philly....when Jacobs was facing a better opponent, both were from Brooklyn, and they fought in Brooklyn?

Do you think Lemieux vs Quillin in Canada would only sell 1900 more tickets than Jacobs vs Rosado in Canada?

Do you think Lemieux vs Quillin on TV would only do a 408k peak?


But if you're talking %'s in terms of negotiating, Jacobs brings more to the table than Lemieux, and you know that breh.


How when the numbers don't add up? Lemieux was coming in as IBF Middleweight Champion, a more solid box office attraction went it comes to selling tickets, and outside of the fight vs NDam on FS1 where he went up against AB vs Porter and Andre Ward's return, had put up solid TV numbers.


Jacobs brings what to the table? Nobody answers that. What does Jacobs bring to get the 43/57 split that Lemieux did?
 
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