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So you think those "Floyd entering into the UFC for a few matches" rumours are true from Dana White? Or like a rematch in the ring?
In the ring. But it just seems obvious. With the rumors of Floyd being back in the gym. And the fact that floyd and conor had been all peaceful after their fight. Showing eachother nothing but respect. Then out of the blue they start shytting on each other again?.....just seems like they're setting something up. Conor isnt trying to go back to mma and fight for crumbs after making 100 mil in the ring. And Floyd loves money too much to pass up another fight.
 

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Who y’all think Spence vs Canelo
Spence is not close to ready at the time being. Defense isn't sharp enough. And he would lose the biggest advantage he has at 147 , which is his physical strength. Canelo is just a better boxer all around. Even disregarding size, canelo would still win just off superior skill set. Brook stunned spence a couple times with straight rights, which is canelo's best punch. Spence is just too predictable for canelo right now. His whole style plays right into canelo's hands. Maybe in a couple years as spence improves that could be a much closer fight, but right now spence doesn't have the tools to beat canelo. I think spence would take the fight cause he's a warrior. but no chance his team would do it. When you hear Derrick James talk about canelo you can tell how much respect he has for canelo's talent. Spence should focus on cleaning out 147 then focus on 154 and 160. It's a different ballgame at the higher weights.
 

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Spence is not close to ready at the time being. Defense isn't sharp enough. And he would lose the biggest advantage he has at 147 , which is his physical strength. Canelo is just a better boxer all around. Even disregarding size, canelo would still win just off superior skill set. Brook stunned spence a couple times with straight rights, which is canelo's best punch. Spence is just too predictable for canelo right now. His whole style plays right into canelo's hands. Maybe in a couple years as spence improves that could be a much closer fight, but right now spence doesn't have the tools to beat canelo. I think spence would take the fight cause he's a warrior. but no chance his team would do it. When you hear Derrick James talk about canelo you can tell how much respect he has for canelo's talent. Spence should focus on cleaning out 147 then focus on 154 and 160. It's a different ballgame at the higher weights.
Imo they are close to each other regarding the skill level but with the main point I agree. Spence just started to shine in 147 and while he is a big welter he is still a welter not even a 154, at the same time Canelo became a true middleweight. The style matchup is similar to GGG vs Canelo though I think Spence would be a little faster than GGG was in exchanges so offensively he would have more success in the middle of the ring but even though his chin seems good currently there is no guarantee (actually it’s not likely) that he could take the shots Golovkin, a natural mw took (cause Spence would get hit too).

The kind of fighters giving Canelo problems
1: rangy boxer with good footwork who doesn’t carry himself over
2: a guy who takes his punches and can force the pace later in the fight as well when Canelo gets tired

Spence could be the second category in a few years if he grows into the proper weight but right now I don’t think so, not because his pace but because I doubt he could take those punches now as Golovkin did. Let him grow into that weight and this could be a super fight around 2020-2021 if both are still close to their prime by then
 

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Care to expound? :mjpls:
Wilder is an average boxer with a murderous right hand and suspect chin..heavyweight Randall bailey....ortiz can box, has a chin, and has power too..ive seen a live demo of it...thats more than enough to give him a shot against wilder
 

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Wilder is an average boxer with a murderous right hand and suspect chin..heavyweight Randall bailey....ortiz can box, has a chin, and has power too..ive seen a live demo of it...thats more than enough to give him a shot against wilder
Will he be the same without doping ? Last Ortiz fights were vastly different than the one against Jennings to be frank.
 

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Will he be the same without doping ? Last Ortiz fights were vastly different than the one against Jennings to be frank.
I mean he knocked down Malik Scott 3 times and he looked sloppy but he won..and he ko'ed a can pretty quick in his last fight..the only difference I can see is the way his body looks...pause
 
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