LennoxWine
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Julian Williams is GARBAGE. My goodness, I had no idea he was that bad. Ishe Smith is wobbly and Williams can't do anything to take advantage of it.
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if only ishe didnt slap so much with his punches, he prolly would have been to hurt j rock more
wasnt a bad fight at all
David_TheMan
Veteran
I don't even want to see the decision, Julian lost win or lose
LeVraiPapi
Redemption is Coming
That fight was a draw.
Damn, J Rock got teed off on.
Damn, J Rock got teed off on.
interesting scores..i thought j rock did win 6-4..but that 99-91 though or the second score...nah
LeVraiPapi
Redemption is Coming
LennoxWine
All Star
Julian Williams and Austin Trout need to fight. Loser AND winner needs to retire...
The axe murderer
For I am death and I ride on a pale horse
Joshua's team says he was hacked. Idk if true because Jon Jones has used that excuse before as well although that out of nowhere shyt was odd. I'm here like did dude really think he won't get exposed? If he really said that racist shyt I can't rock with him no more. 
I hope its a hack because it does look odd as hell but then if it ain't Femi fukked up. There should be no place for these kind of views imo
I hope its a hack because it does look odd as hell but then if it ain't Femi fukked up. There should be no place for these kind of views imo
Links to yesterdays fights anyone
LennoxWine
All Star
You don't wanna see em...trust me. Nambaya vs Della Torre was a good scrap, but the last two fights gets a thumbs down. Not that Smith vs Williams wasn't competitive but Williams looked so bad it hurt to watch.
ComorianKid
Banned
Man eddie chambers a hoe for that shyt, trying to bring down a fellow brother in the struggle down with that fake shyt.
Fake ass Sonny liston
Fake ass Sonny liston
LennoxWine
All Star
Man eddie chambers a hoe for that shyt, trying to bring down a fellow brother in the struggle down with that fake shyt.
Fake ass Sonny liston
I'm trying to convince myself the left hook landed, but I can't.Anyway, Chambers should've kept the messages private. And why the fukk do they call this nikka fast? Should be outta shape, no muscle tone Eddie Chambers
GREENandYELLOW
2x...and defending
Dan Rafael chat wrap 11/17:
- Fights he thinks need or he really wants to happen (outside of Joshua vs. Wilder): Thurman-Spence, Beterbieve-Bivol-Gvozdyk round robin, GGG-Jacobs rematch, Charlo-Hurd, and Linares-Garcia.
- Joshua's next fight? Parker is still possible, a Whyte rematch, or the winner of Bellew-Haye 2.
- Crawford's next fight will be March 10 vs. Horn-Corcoran winner.
- Sor's next fight should be vs. Estrada on HBO Feb. 24. Inoue would be on the undercard, assuming he wins next month. Fight would be in Southern California or Vegas.
- Not sure Kovalev will ever be the same. The beating was more mental than physical. Hopes he makes a strong comeback because 175 has a lot of talent and would love to see a lot of good fights made, although there is a lot of promoter difficulties in that division.
- Has not heard anything specific about GRJ moving up in weight. His career is disappointing. He is very good, but only fights once a year.
- Believes Nicholas Walters is done as a title contender.
- Not sure what is next for Danny Garcia. He didn't seem to want to fight again this year. He has made a lot of money, but certainly has a lot left in him, if he wants to continue to fight.
- Jacobs won easily and Arias brought nothing to the table. Jacobs toyed with him, but it wasn't an impressive fight. Didn't raise his stock at all.
- Wilder vs. prime Lennox Lewis? Lewis.
- Current ODH or Conor McGregor? ODH.
- Assuming Frampton wins his fight on Saturday, Frampton has had discussions to fight Valdez, LSC-Mares winner, or Selby.
- Told that Broner and Lipinets will not fight each other.
- Ramirez vs. Imam? Ramirez brings crazy pressure, is a little bigger, and has a tremendous left hook and body attack. Imam has solid power, but is a slow starter. he is slicker and a better boxer, but also hittable. Would favor Ramirez.
- Ramirez vs. Imam likely would be in Reno, small possibility of Fresno, per Arum.
- Believes Joshua vs. Wilder will happen, just not next, and doesn't have a problem with that. They both will have one fight maybe two before they meet up. It will allow the fight to be built up more. Joshua also needs to fight once in the US before meeting with Wilder. Probably this time next year for them to fight.
- Usyk looks like he could do okay at HW, but not against the really big guys (Wilder, Joshua).
- Shafikov is moving down to 130 and will fight Dec. 9 on HBO.
- What is next for JCC? Who cares.
- Prime Gatti vs. Pacquiao? Pacquiao smokes him.
- Thinks J-Rock will be fine vs. Ishe. Ishe is older and not much of a puncher.
- Has not heard the rumors that Usyk vs. Briedis would be in Chicago.
- If Danny Garcia retired today, is he a HOF'er? Not likely.
- Does Stevenson vs. Kovalev ever happen? Doubts it.
- Rafael Garcia's hat should go to the HOF.
- Daniel Franco and the RocNation situation? A promoter is not obligated to pay the bills of an injured fighter, but basic human decency would be nice. Roc Nation did not show that.
- Thoughts on GGG? He isn't in his prime, but he still is an outstanding fighter.
- Garcia vs. Porter? Porter and his dad said that he will not fight again until he gets his Thurman mandatory.
- Parker vs. Browne? Who cares. Browne is a two time drug cheat that does not deserve a title shot.
- Does Nigel Benn or Donald Curry ever get into the HOF? Not this year as it is very top heavy. Maybe down the road.
- Watching old HBO fights vs. today there is something missing. Much more overall enthusiasm and big fight feel (even to smaller fights) in the past.
- GB says they have an offer to have Linares fight a rematch vs. Campbell in the UK. Linares has a January HBO date.
- What would Jerry Jones have to do to get GGG vs. Canelo 2 at Cowboy Stadium? Their first fight gated $27 million in Vegas. Jerry Jones' biggest gate at his stadium is $6-7 million. It is always about the money.
- If Lomachenko beats Rigo he has a great chance to win fighter of the year because of how active he has been.
- Gassiev vs. Dorticos? Would favor Gassiev.
- Thoughts on Hearn saying he wants more US dates for his fighters? He only has one true US fighter (Jacobs). To get US dates he needs more American fighters.
- The only time he has ever felt queasy with the amount of blood during a fight was Briggs-Adamek.
- Does he believe Wilder when he says he would fight AJ in the UK? Yes 100%.
- Matthysse likely back on HBO in January.
- Did Mikey Garcia deserve more than 50/50 purse split with Linares? Why. Mikey is not a huge ticket seller or ratings draw. GB would have had to do all the promotion.
- Miller is talented and one of the better HW's, but his fight vs. Wach was unimpressive.
- Nothing for sure on Indongo. He could end up fighting for one of the vacant belts.
- Thoughts on Colon's father heckling Williams? Low class. Feels for the Colon family and their emotions, but it wasn't like Williams intentionally tried to injure their son.
- Thoughts Beterbiev vs. Koelling? Not aware of Beterbiev catching any flack for his performance. He was there to fight and threw 1100 punches. Koelling refused to fight.
- Rank long term succes of Beterbiev, Bivol, and Gvozdyk? 1. Bivol, 2. Beterbiev, 3. Gvozdyk.
- Good strategy by Wilder to be so bold and confident publicly. Helps force Joshua's hand.
- Prograis and Postol have been ordered to negotiate a fight.
- DiBella told him a great hypothetical fight to make would be Seldin vs. Baranchyk.
- Fights he thinks need or he really wants to happen (outside of Joshua vs. Wilder): Thurman-Spence, Beterbieve-Bivol-Gvozdyk round robin, GGG-Jacobs rematch, Charlo-Hurd, and Linares-Garcia.
- Joshua's next fight? Parker is still possible, a Whyte rematch, or the winner of Bellew-Haye 2.
- Crawford's next fight will be March 10 vs. Horn-Corcoran winner.
- Sor's next fight should be vs. Estrada on HBO Feb. 24. Inoue would be on the undercard, assuming he wins next month. Fight would be in Southern California or Vegas.
- Not sure Kovalev will ever be the same. The beating was more mental than physical. Hopes he makes a strong comeback because 175 has a lot of talent and would love to see a lot of good fights made, although there is a lot of promoter difficulties in that division.
- Has not heard anything specific about GRJ moving up in weight. His career is disappointing. He is very good, but only fights once a year.
- Believes Nicholas Walters is done as a title contender.
- Not sure what is next for Danny Garcia. He didn't seem to want to fight again this year. He has made a lot of money, but certainly has a lot left in him, if he wants to continue to fight.
- Jacobs won easily and Arias brought nothing to the table. Jacobs toyed with him, but it wasn't an impressive fight. Didn't raise his stock at all.
- Wilder vs. prime Lennox Lewis? Lewis.
- Current ODH or Conor McGregor? ODH.
- Assuming Frampton wins his fight on Saturday, Frampton has had discussions to fight Valdez, LSC-Mares winner, or Selby.
- Told that Broner and Lipinets will not fight each other.
- Ramirez vs. Imam? Ramirez brings crazy pressure, is a little bigger, and has a tremendous left hook and body attack. Imam has solid power, but is a slow starter. he is slicker and a better boxer, but also hittable. Would favor Ramirez.
- Ramirez vs. Imam likely would be in Reno, small possibility of Fresno, per Arum.
- Believes Joshua vs. Wilder will happen, just not next, and doesn't have a problem with that. They both will have one fight maybe two before they meet up. It will allow the fight to be built up more. Joshua also needs to fight once in the US before meeting with Wilder. Probably this time next year for them to fight.
- Usyk looks like he could do okay at HW, but not against the really big guys (Wilder, Joshua).
- Shafikov is moving down to 130 and will fight Dec. 9 on HBO.
- What is next for JCC? Who cares.
- Prime Gatti vs. Pacquiao? Pacquiao smokes him.
- Thinks J-Rock will be fine vs. Ishe. Ishe is older and not much of a puncher.
- Has not heard the rumors that Usyk vs. Briedis would be in Chicago.
- If Danny Garcia retired today, is he a HOF'er? Not likely.
- Does Stevenson vs. Kovalev ever happen? Doubts it.
- Rafael Garcia's hat should go to the HOF.
- Daniel Franco and the RocNation situation? A promoter is not obligated to pay the bills of an injured fighter, but basic human decency would be nice. Roc Nation did not show that.
- Thoughts on GGG? He isn't in his prime, but he still is an outstanding fighter.
- Garcia vs. Porter? Porter and his dad said that he will not fight again until he gets his Thurman mandatory.
- Parker vs. Browne? Who cares. Browne is a two time drug cheat that does not deserve a title shot.
- Does Nigel Benn or Donald Curry ever get into the HOF? Not this year as it is very top heavy. Maybe down the road.
- Watching old HBO fights vs. today there is something missing. Much more overall enthusiasm and big fight feel (even to smaller fights) in the past.
- GB says they have an offer to have Linares fight a rematch vs. Campbell in the UK. Linares has a January HBO date.
- What would Jerry Jones have to do to get GGG vs. Canelo 2 at Cowboy Stadium? Their first fight gated $27 million in Vegas. Jerry Jones' biggest gate at his stadium is $6-7 million. It is always about the money.
- If Lomachenko beats Rigo he has a great chance to win fighter of the year because of how active he has been.
- Gassiev vs. Dorticos? Would favor Gassiev.
- Thoughts on Hearn saying he wants more US dates for his fighters? He only has one true US fighter (Jacobs). To get US dates he needs more American fighters.
- The only time he has ever felt queasy with the amount of blood during a fight was Briggs-Adamek.
- Does he believe Wilder when he says he would fight AJ in the UK? Yes 100%.
- Matthysse likely back on HBO in January.
- Did Mikey Garcia deserve more than 50/50 purse split with Linares? Why. Mikey is not a huge ticket seller or ratings draw. GB would have had to do all the promotion.
- Miller is talented and one of the better HW's, but his fight vs. Wach was unimpressive.
- Nothing for sure on Indongo. He could end up fighting for one of the vacant belts.
- Thoughts on Colon's father heckling Williams? Low class. Feels for the Colon family and their emotions, but it wasn't like Williams intentionally tried to injure their son.
- Thoughts Beterbiev vs. Koelling? Not aware of Beterbiev catching any flack for his performance. He was there to fight and threw 1100 punches. Koelling refused to fight.
- Rank long term succes of Beterbiev, Bivol, and Gvozdyk? 1. Bivol, 2. Beterbiev, 3. Gvozdyk.
- Good strategy by Wilder to be so bold and confident publicly. Helps force Joshua's hand.
- Prograis and Postol have been ordered to negotiate a fight.
- DiBella told him a great hypothetical fight to make would be Seldin vs. Baranchyk.