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[patscorpio]

I posted earlier from a FB link but something happened to it...anyways I look at Guzman now in this and I just shake my head

 

[mr. smoke weed]

Yep......but Mikey can always send that contract to E Bunny













#AboutBillions

I hope that he does #SmokeSquad gonna be 2-0 vs #AboutBillions

 

[reservoirdogs]

Lou DiBella reminds me of that dude who's in his 40s but tries very hard to be "hip" so comes off weird at the end of the day

 

[Newzz]

@HeruDat

 

[GREENandYELLOW]

They are definitely....






...not from Harlem

I don't ever remember seeing with Wilder with hair like that.

Keeping it short is a better look for him.

 

[BlackManLiveFromLondon]

Joshua Anticipates That at Some Point He Will Taste Defeat

IBF, IBO, WBA heavyweight champion Anthony Joshua (19-0, 19 KOs) is realistic - he knows that at some point he will suffer his first career defeat.

Joshua returns to the ring on October 28th in Cardiff, when he defends his titles against mandatory challenger Kubrat Pulev of Bulgaria.

The undefeated Olympic gold medal winner has been a destructive force in the ring, but there have been some flaws displayed in several of his bouts.

Should Joshua get past Pulev, it would set the stage for a potential 2018 showdown with WBC champion Deontay Wilder. The WBC champ has a mandatory of his own to deal with, when he faces Bermane Stiverne on November 4th from the Barclays Center in Brooklyn.

Joshua is not planning to lose any time soon, but he realizes that everyone, at some point, will get a loss - especially when it comes to the heavyweight division.

"History is there to be reset but I look at the all the fighters that I follow or admire and they were champions and then they lost, then had to come back and be champion," Joshua told Sky Sports.

"Unless I have a miracle journey that we have never seen before, I just know that history has been written and this is what happens. There will be a time when I probably get beat and it's up to me to come back and try to redeem myself.

"That's just how it goes in the sport. Everyone is like two-time heavyweight champion of the world, three-time heavyweight champion of the world because they once lost and had to bounce back."

Should Wilder and Joshua not face each other next, there is the prospect of Luis Ortiz for both of them. Ortiz is the WBA's mandatory challenger to Joshua, while he was scheduled to fight Wilder but failed a pre-fight drug test - and that may get rescheduled to next year.




Joshua Anticipates That at Some Point He Will Taste Defeat - Boxing News





What kind of stuff is THIS to say???



Somebody get this shook, low confidence having dude all the way up outta here....this aint no type of talk a professional fighter should be letting come out of his mouth




No wonder he avoiding Wilder....he already having premonitions of getting beat up and losing his belt




@BlackManLiveFromLondon




:bombzquad: #BombZquad

Bumsquad gotta talk about us all day because nobody is talking about Deontay Wilder

Over here we give bums the cold shoulder, no time wasted talking about ants

 

[HeruDat1]

@HeruDat

Birth of an Era, we are witnessing history fellas. Benavidez and DeGale will suffer the same fate.

Spoiler

groves better worry about getting past Cox

 

[Skip b]

Haven’t seen this nowhere hopefully the extended fam and community can rebuild it even better.

Pretty sure extended family set the fire ablaze

 

[Creflo ½ Dollar]

Anybody ever able to find a link or stream of the Edwin Valero movie? I can't find it nowhere

 

[patscorpio]

Anybody ever able to find a link or stream of the Edwin Valero movie? I can't find it nowhere

nope..i didnt think it was even released

 

[Newzz]

Bumsquad gotta talk about us all day because nobody is talking about Deontay Wilder

Over here we give bums the cold shoulder, no time wasted talking about ants

But yet Anthony Joshua is constantly talking about Deontay Wilder



https://www.google.com/amp/www.dail...y-Joshua-Deontay-Wilder-fight-inevitable.html


https://www.google.com/amp/news.sky...ust-a-matter-of-when-on-wilder-fight-11073270


Joshua: Sooner or Later I'll Ram My Jab Down Wilder's Throat! - Boxing News






So what are you talking about?



He talks about him, but is hesitant to get in the ring vs him

 

[Conscious Pilot]

 

[THE MACHINE]

By Dan Ambrose: Welterweight champion Errol Spence Jr. and lightweight belt holder Mikey Garcia both reportedly rejected an offer to fight WBO junior middleweight champion Miguel Cotto (41-5, 33 KOs) for his final fight of his career on December 2 at Madison Square Garden, in New York.

Mikey is said to have turned down the fight with Cotto, 36, because Golden Boy Promotions, his promoters, wanted options on him. It’s unclear why Spence turned down the fight with Cotto. Spence fights on Showtime Boxing. That might have been a stumbling block. Danny Garcia, Lamont Peterson and James Kirkland were also guys that were possibilities for Cotto’s December 2 fight, according to RingTV.com.

Cotto was scheduled to fight Kirkland earlier this year in February, but he pulled out of the fight after suffering a fractured nose training. Cotto’s management must have been really desperate to try and go back to scheduling the fight with Kirkland. You would think that they had learned from the experience.

A fight against Kirkland would have made sense 8 years ago when he was fighting frequently and well thought of by boxing fans. But in the 8 years, Kirkland has dropped off the map and is rarely seen in the ring. Cotto vs. Kirkland likely would have done poor ratings on HBO. The older hardcore boxing fans know Kirkland, but not the younger fans and the casual fans. Kirkland hasn’t been active enough.

The fighter that will be facing Cotto on the December 2 date is fringe welterweight contender Sadam Ali (25-1, 14 KOs). HBO Championship Boxing will televise the Cotto-Ali fight. The undercard for the fight is still yet to be determined. Former IBF middleweight champion David Lemieux was originally scheduled to fight on the December 2 card, but his management pulled him off of the card. They plan on having Lemieux fight on December 16 in a headliner fight on HBO.

Lemieux wanted to fight Cotto on the December 2 card. Once it was clear that Cotto was looking to go small by selecting a fringe level welterweight in Sadam Ali, there was no point in Lemieux staying on the card. It would look strange for a fighter as good as Lemieux to be fighting in the co-feature bout while Cotto faces the recently knocked out welterweight Sadam Ali in the main event. Ali was knocked out in the 9th round by Jessie Vargas on March 5, 2016.

Spence could be fighting Lamont Peterson in December or January. It would be the first defense of Spence’s IBF welterweight title that he won on May 27 of this year in defeating Kell Brook by an 11th round knockout at Bramall Lane.

Mikey Garcia is interested in facing WBA lightweight champion Jorge Linares in a unification fight in early 2018. If that fight can’t get made, then Garcia, 29, would like to fight WBO lightweight champion Terry Flanagan in a fight in the UK. Garcia is said to have reached out to Flanagan’s promoter Frank Warren to see if he can arrange that fight. You would have to consider it a long shot for Mikey to get a fight against Flanagan. That’s not a realistic option. If Flanagan is going to fight anyone talented, it would likely be Anthony Crolla or Ricky Burns. Mikey is too dangerous right now. Besides that, Mikey isn’t as well-known with British boxing fans as Crolla, Linares and Burns. Those are winnable fights for Flanagan. Mikey recently moved up to light welterweight to fight Adrien Broner on July 29 last summer. It was an easy 12 round decision win for Mikey over a depleted looking Broner. There are a lot of opportunities for Mikey in the 140 lb. division. With a lot of interesting fights available to Miley at 140 and 147, it’s strange that he would be trying to arrange fights at 135. It might be a waste of Mikey’s time to try and get Linares and Flanagan in the ring.

Cotto couldn’t fight top 154 lb. fighters Jarred Hurd, Erislandy Lara, Erickson Lubin and Jermell Charlo, as they’re all fighting this Saturday night on Showtime Boxing. Still, Demerius Andrade, Julian Williams or Kell Brook would have been good options for Cotto. Any one of those fighters would have been an excellent choice for Cotto to fight instead of Sadam Ali. At least those fighters are fighting in the junior middleweight division, and are big enough and powerful enough to give Cotto a real fight. Sadam Ali is not a big puncher, and he’s not likely to ever go far in the 147 lb. division. Ali was a good – but not great – amateur fighter, but at the pro level, he’s far apart from the skill level of the top guys at 147.

HBO are the ones that will be televising Cotto’s December 2 fight. I guess it doesn’t matter to them if Cotto faces Ali. It’s too bad though. Cotto’s previous fight on that network, a mismatch against Yoshihiro Kamegai on August 26, was hard to watch due to the one-sided nature of the fight. Kamegai looked like a journeyman that didn’t belong in the same ring with Cotto. It was so one-sided that it was not interesting to watch. The World Boxing Organization had Kamegai rated No.6 with their organization, ranking him above Erickson Lubin. It was obvious from the opening seconds of the fight that the WBO had given Kamegai a ranking that clearly didn’t deserve. It was believed by some boxing fans that Cotto would make up for the poor fight with Kamegai by facing a quality fighter on HBO for his December fight. It was hoped that Cotto would fight Lemieux, Saul Canelo Alvarez or Gennady Golovkin. But it appears that Lemieux was never seriously considered for the fight with Cotto, and Canelo and Golovkin couldn’t take the fight. Cotto vs. Ali is not a great fight for a main event on HBO. It’s arguably a similar fight to Cotto’s recent match against Kamegai. Ali’s ability to take heavy shots is questionable. In that respect, Cotto-Ali could be a worse contest than Cotto-Kamegai.

With Sadam Ali having verbally agreed to the Cotto fight, it means the Puerto Rican star’s chances of ending his career on a positive note is extremely high. Cotto’ will be remembered for his fights against Floyd Mayweather Jr., Antonio Margarito, Zab Judah, Shane Mosley, Sergio Martinez, Canelo Alvarez and Manny Pacquiao. Cotto lost to Mayweather, Margarito, Canelo and Pacquiao. Cotto would beat an injured Sergio Martinez, Yuri Foreman and Margarito.

@patscorpio your thoughts on the bolded

Even in an article bashing Cotto from top to bottom, they admit he tried to make the fight but Mikey and Spence wanted no parts.

 

[patscorpio]

@patscorpio your thoughts on the bolded

Even in an article bashing Cotto from top to bottom, they admit he tried to make the fight but Mikey and Spence wanted no parts.

why is cotto so hell bent on making fights with fighters not in his weight class for the belt he holds?..thats my question..shyt is stupid..regardless cotto facing spence or mikey doesnt move my interest

 

[mr. smoke weed]

@patscorpio your thoughts on the bolded

Even in an article bashing Cotto from top to bottom, they admit he tried to make the fight but Mikey and Spence wanted no parts.

Cotto looks pathetic for this