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Why?

Jacobs just signed to HBO and Andrade just signed to HBO.
Also both are in the same division now and seems like HBO has long term plans with 160.

So why wouldn't it happen?
Stevenson/Kovalev
Floyd/Pac
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Yup and its not even close.

If both retire now, who's career would you rather have?
Who would rank higher all time in their division?
Who's style was harder to overcome?

Golovkin is the correct answer for at least 2 of these questions if we being real.
Yup, kkkov is the better boxer, but he got folded and started crying.

:stopitslime::scust: ain't no crying in boxing
 

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You typed a whole lot of bullshyt and bias, so I won't even bother to entertain this.

but thank you for taking the time out to express your feelings on the subject. :obama:
:mjlol:

There's no Andre Ward at 160 for Triple G to fight.........thus their careers aren't comparable. You know this, and whoever posed the OG question knows this. However, Kkkrybaby is extremely weak to the body and has been susceptible to KDs. Can't say the same about Triple G. N Blake Caparellio or whomever dropped Sergey with a hard right to the body.
 

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Yup, kkkov is the better boxer, but he got folded and started crying.

:stopitslime::scust: ain't no crying in boxing
He'll still cry about it for years to come
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Kovalev is a better boxer than GGG... its not even close. Think people are getting too carried away now discrediting Kovalev because Ward stopped him, thing we seem to forget is that Ward is special and when you come across a fighter like him you're gonna catch an L whether you like it or not. Even so, he gave Ward problems in the first fight and was pretty much outboxing him at times.

Both Kovalev and GGG have had the same career up until now, they were both 'THE MAN' in their divisions and they were both pretty much stopping everybody that was brave enough to fight them. Difference is, Kovalev was unlucky that an ATG FIRST BALLOT HOFer came up as the next challenger (the same guy that GGG ducked :francis: ) . Meanwhile, GGG has ran into Danny Jacobs and Canelo... a gassed fighter manages to get a draw against you while you're going all out for your 'Big Drama Show' :mjlol:

If we're being real, Ward needed a rematch to truly beat Kovalev (I thought he easily won the first but whatever). Put GGG in Kovalev's place and Ward wouldn't need a rematch :manny:
Great points. Kovalev won that first fight, IMO, and really that fight should have been a draw. A lot of people think Canelo gonna come back the second go round and do what Ward did to Kovalev. I think they are mistaken. It was clear that Kovalev controlled most of the fight, and Ward came back to even things up late in the fight. Canelo NEVER controlled the fight past round 3. I felt like GGG won 8 straight rounds after that. I think GGG just respected Canelo too much and was intimidated by him and the crowd. Second go round won't be very pretty for Canelo.
 

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Report: Demetrius Andrade in negotiations to join Top Rank
Ryan O'Hara @OHaraSportsTue, Sep 26 2017
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Former junior middleweight world champion Demetrius Andrade will make the jump to the middleweight division in October when he faces Alantez Fox at Turning Stone Resort & Casino in Verona, but he could make another significant move.



Sources with knowledge of the situation reporting on condition of anonymity to FightNights.com say Andrade, 29, of Providence, Rhode Island, is in negotiations to join Top Rank.



Andrade (24-0, 16 KO’s) deserves a meaningful fight. As an amateur, he won the U.S. national championships and Golden Gloves twice each, a gold medal at the 2007 World Championships, and represented the U.S. at the 2008 Olympics in Beijing. And of course, he is undefeated as a professional.



But Andrade is a victim of bad business in boxing. In his first five years of competition, from 2008 to 2012, he had 18 fights. However, Andrade has fought just five times since. Former world champion Paulie Malignaggi, in a previous interview with Fight Hype, blamed his promoters, who he described as “lazy.”



“A lot of people on his team I don’t think do the job right for him and they don’t get his name out there enough,” Malignaggi said. “Demetrius does his job every time he goes out there – and that’s fight, and fight very well – and look spectacular in doing so every time, and he needs a team around him that does the same job and has the same passion for him as he has for his own training and his own fighting.”



Top Rank could be very beneficial for Andrade. For instance, all of his fights would be broadcast on ESPN. The promotional company and the network inked a four-year deal in August. Therefore, he could receive the exposure he has always wanted.



If he joins Top Rank, Andrade would be the third middleweight in the stable, joining the likes of Quilisto Madera, and Ryota Murata.


:ohhh: @HeruDat



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Kovalev is a better boxer than GGG... its not even close. Think people are getting too carried away now discrediting Kovalev because Ward stopped him, thing we seem to forget is that Ward is special and when you come across a fighter like him you're gonna catch an L whether you like it or not. Even so, he gave Ward problems in the first fight and was pretty much outboxing him at times.

Both Kovalev and GGG have had the same career up until now, they were both 'THE MAN' in their divisions and they were both pretty much stopping everybody that was brave enough to fight them. Difference is, Kovalev was unlucky that an ATG FIRST BALLOT HOFer came up as the next challenger (the same guy that GGG ducked :francis: ) . Meanwhile, GGG has ran into Danny Jacobs and Canelo... a gassed fighter manages to get a draw against you while you're going all out for your 'Big Drama Show' :mjlol:

If we're being real, Ward needed a rematch to truly beat Kovalev (I thought he easily won the first but whatever). Put GGG in Kovalev's place and Ward wouldn't need a rematch :manny:

While it seems for Kovalev the ceiling was around Ward's level for Golovkin it was Jacobs' and as much as I like him Canelo's level.

Point is while all three are very good, Ward is better than Canelo or Jacobs but GGG had the same close, debatable fights agains Canelo and Jacobs as Kovalev against Ward first time around.
 

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Report: Demetrius Andrade in negotiations to join Top Rank
Ryan O'Hara @OHaraSportsTue, Sep 26 2017
1506480349-bbbbbb.jpg


Former junior middleweight world champion Demetrius Andrade will make the jump to the middleweight division in October when he faces Alantez Fox at Turning Stone Resort & Casino in Verona, but he could make another significant move.



Sources with knowledge of the situation reporting on condition of anonymity to FightNights.com say Andrade, 29, of Providence, Rhode Island, is in negotiations to join Top Rank.



Andrade (24-0, 16 KO’s) deserves a meaningful fight. As an amateur, he won the U.S. national championships and Golden Gloves twice each, a gold medal at the 2007 World Championships, and represented the U.S. at the 2008 Olympics in Beijing. And of course, he is undefeated as a professional.



But Andrade is a victim of bad business in boxing. In his first five years of competition, from 2008 to 2012, he had 18 fights. However, Andrade has fought just five times since. Former world champion Paulie Malignaggi, in a previous interview with Fight Hype, blamed his promoters, who he described as “lazy.”



“A lot of people on his team I don’t think do the job right for him and they don’t get his name out there enough,” Malignaggi said. “Demetrius does his job every time he goes out there – and that’s fight, and fight very well – and look spectacular in doing so every time, and he needs a team around him that does the same job and has the same passion for him as he has for his own training and his own fighting.”



Top Rank could be very beneficial for Andrade. For instance, all of his fights would be broadcast on ESPN. The promotional company and the network inked a four-year deal in August. Therefore, he could receive the exposure he has always wanted.



If he joins Top Rank, Andrade would be the third middleweight in the stable, joining the likes of Quilisto Madera, and Ryota Murata.


:ohhh: @HeruDat



#ATeam

So he's in a 3 fight deal with HBO but gonna join TR?

Interesting... :jbhmm:

So TR ain't done with HBO at the end of the day?
 

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He's not one of the guys he went over to hbo for.

Edit no shade on him as a fighter but nikkas is chasing $$ and greatness. He doesnt bring either yet.

Yeah but I think HBO gonna build it up, they don't collect all these mws to not make them fight each other down the line
 
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