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[reservoirdogs]

Hall of Fame matchmaker Bruce Trampler was reminiscing recently about a meeting with Al Haymon that took place at Top Rank years ago. Floyd Mayweather was still a Top Rank fighter. Haymon was Mayweather’s advisor.

“Al came in to discuss Floyd’s next fight with Bob [Arum],” Trampler recalled. “They were going to meet in Bob’s office. Al was early. He had a few minutes to kill, so he stopped by my office. And I remember very clearly, Al said to me, ‘I’m going to be talking with Bob about a fight for Floyd. Bob will probably call you in at some point for your opinion. I’d appreciate it if you didn’t mention Antonio Margarito as a prospective opponent.’”

“That was the formula,” Trampler continued. “Al and Floyd were ducking a guy who, at that time, would have been a very dangerous opponent. They knew how to minimize risk versus reward, which, if you’re a fighter or a fighter’s manager, isn’t necessarily a bad thing to do.”


Mayweather-McGregor: Part I – The Sting - The Ring



I knew it...we all know it

I don't get it why...

any version of Floyd would have beaten any version of Margarito quite easily

 

[patscorpio]

I don't get it why...

any version of Floyd would have beaten any version of Margarito quite easily

this is the thing about margarito..who has beaten a prime version of margarito, outside of shane mosley, easily?

 

[reservoirdogs]

this is the thing about margarito..who has beaten a prime version of margarito, outside of shane mosley, easily?

Does it matter though?
Mayweather was a higher level fighter than Mosley too...

I tell you what would have happened. Margarito plodding forward while he's eating Floyd's body jabs and straight rights through 12 rounds while Floyd is constantly moving laterally and at the end Margs loses 118-110 or so...

 

[Newzz]

Does it matter though?
Mayweather was a higher level fighter than Mosley too...

I tell you what would have happened. Margarito plodding forward while he's eating Floyd's body jabs and straight rights through 12 rounds while Floyd is constantly moving laterally and at the end Margs loses 118-110 or so...

Floyd didn't feel as confident as you that it would play out like this though, or he would've faced him and did exactly this for what (at the time) would've been his career high payday of $8 milly, plus the chance to say he killed "The Boogeyman"......so what does that say?

 

[patscorpio]

Does it matter though?
Mayweather was a higher level fighter than Mosley too...

I tell you what would have happened. Margarito plodding forward while he's eating Floyd's body jabs and straight rights through 12 rounds while Floyd is constantly moving laterally and at the end Margs loses 118-110 or so...

no one has beaten a prime margarito easily and there's enough footage of that to back that up...margarito was possibly a top 3 welterweight when the welterweight division was legit and strong with contenders

 

[BlackManLiveFromLondon]

Hall of Fame matchmaker Bruce Trampler was reminiscing recently about a meeting with Al Haymon that took place at Top Rank years ago. Floyd Mayweather was still a Top Rank fighter. Haymon was Mayweather’s advisor.

“Al came in to discuss Floyd’s next fight with Bob [Arum],” Trampler recalled. “They were going to meet in Bob’s office. Al was early. He had a few minutes to kill, so he stopped by my office. And I remember very clearly, Al said to me, ‘I’m going to be talking with Bob about a fight for Floyd. Bob will probably call you in at some point for your opinion. I’d appreciate it if you didn’t mention Antonio Margarito as a prospective opponent.’”

“That was the formula,” Trampler continued. “Al and Floyd were ducking a guy who, at that time, would have been a very dangerous opponent. They knew how to minimize risk versus reward, which, if you’re a fighter or a fighter’s manager, isn’t necessarily a bad thing to do.”


Mayweather-McGregor: Part I – The Sting - The Ring



I knew it...we all know it

TMT we only fight clean fighters not no weirdo Tijuana drug lord boxers with loaded gloves

We aint trying to fight 'The Boogeyman' with loaded gloves only to end up looking like The Boogeyman after the fight

 

[reservoirdogs]

Floyd didn't feel as confident as you that it would play out like this though, or he would've faced him and did exactly this for what (at the time) would've been his career high payday of $8 milly, plus the chance to say he killed "The Boogeyman"......so what does that say?

fighter not wanting a fight doesn't certainly mean he would lose too

I just don't see Margarito having anything other than size which would troubled Mayweather
you can say volume, ok, but his volume would have been decreased significantly against someone like Mayweather. If you can't land on someone and he always moves away your volume will decrease.

no disrespect to Margarito but an old, past prime Mosley tore him completely apart, Mayweather wasn't as strong as Mosley but he was even faster at that stage of their careers and overall a better fighter, Margarito would have lost a wide UD...

 

[reservoirdogs]

no one has beaten a prime margarito easily and there's enough footage of that to back that up...margarito was possibly a top 3 welterweight when the welterweight division was legit and strong with contenders

easily in this case means by a wide UD on the scorecards not that he wouldn't have to be aware of Margarito and he wouldn't have to move constantly to avoid harm's way.

no one has beaten prime Margarito easily? Well prime Margarito hasn't faced anyone as good as Mayweather either.

 

[malbaker86]

Hall of Fame matchmaker Bruce Trampler was reminiscing recently about a meeting with Al Haymon that took place at Top Rank years ago. Floyd Mayweather was still a Top Rank fighter. Haymon was Mayweather’s advisor.

“Al came in to discuss Floyd’s next fight with Bob [Arum],” Trampler recalled. “They were going to meet in Bob’s office. Al was early. He had a few minutes to kill, so he stopped by my office. And I remember very clearly, Al said to me, ‘I’m going to be talking with Bob about a fight for Floyd. Bob will probably call you in at some point for your opinion. I’d appreciate it if you didn’t mention Antonio Margarito as a prospective opponent.’”

“That was the formula,” Trampler continued. “Al and Floyd were ducking a guy who, at that time, would have been a very dangerous opponent. They knew how to minimize risk versus reward, which, if you’re a fighter or a fighter’s manager, isn’t necessarily a bad thing to do.”


Mayweather-McGregor: Part I – The Sting - The Ring



I knew it...we all know it

While i believe that no version of Margo beats Floyd, he would have given Floyd hell on Earth

 

[patscorpio]

easily in this case means by a wide UD on the scorecards not that he wouldn't have to be aware of Margarito and he wouldn't have to move constantly to avoid harm's way.

no one has beaten prime Margarito easily? Well prime Margarito hasn't faced anyone as good as Mayweather either.

Contrary to popular belief Floyd did not fight alot of those welters like the rest did..esp margarito

 

[mr. smoke weed]

this is the thing about margarito..who has beaten a prime version of margarito, outside of shane mosley, easily?

Likewise, who beat Floyd at all?

 

[reservoirdogs]

Contrary to popular belief Floyd did not fight alot of those welters like the rest did..esp margarito

Mayweather has the overall better resume

again... not a knock on Margarito but I can't see how he would beat Mayweather and while he had nice wins his only really elite win was against Cotto. He had some other nice wins next to that like Cintron or Clottey but the two times he faced elite opponents before the whole plaster scandal he was 1-1 (Cotto, Williams) 1-2 if we count the Mosley fight, he wasn't unbeatable and Mayweather has beaten better fighters than him up to that point.

How do you think Margarito would beat Mayweather?

 

[patscorpio]

Mayweather has the overall better resume

again... not a knock on Margarito but I can't see how he would beat Mayweather and while he had nice wins his only really elite win was against Cotto. He had some other nice wins next to that like Cintron or Clottey but the two times he faced elite opponents before the whole plaster scandal he was 1-1 (Cotto, Williams) 1-2 if we count the Mosley fight, he wasn't unbeatable and Mayweather has beaten better fighters than him up to that point.

How do you think Margarito would beat Mayweather?

i didnt say margarito beating floyd or vice versa...i said no one beat a prime margarito, except shane mosley, easily...win or lose...key word easily..margarito was a boogieman for a good reason throughout the 00s

 

[malbaker86]

Andre Ward is Star breh

He's not a Superstar, but he's in big time movies, endorsed by Jordan brand, and celebrities show up to his fights

A star is pushing it but i wont argue that he isn't

 

[reservoirdogs]

i didnt say margarito beating floyd or vice versa...i said no one beat a prime margarito, except shane mosley, easily...win or lose...key word easily..margarito was a boogieman for a good reason throughout the 00s

I get that but if past prime MOsley still could beat him easily by your words then why Mayweather wouldn't been able to?