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Mikey Garcia 'Open To Discussing' Fight Against Keith Thurman

By Keith Idec

NEW YORK – If Mikey Garcia cannot get the fights he wants at lightweight or super lightweight, he hasn’t ruled out facing an elite welterweight.

The unbeaten WBC lightweight champion confirmed following his convincing victory Adrien Broner on Saturday night at Barclays Center that he’d consider challenging WBA/WBC welterweight champion Keith Thurman in a 147-pound showdown. Thurman (28-0, 22 KOs, 1 NC) is recovering from elbow surgery three months ago and isn’t expected to fight again until early in 2018.

Once Thurman is healthy, though, Garcia (37-0, 30 KOs) would welcome a chance to become a four-division champion against the undefeated fighter from Clearwater, Florida.

“I would do it,” Garcia said during the post-fight press conference early Sunday morning. “And honestly, if it’s a good fight that the people, media and the network wanna discuss, I’m open to discussing that, too.

“He’s a great champion, a great fighter, you know, he’s a unified champion at welterweight. So that’d be a great matchup, a great accomplishment, a big challenge. But that’s what we want. That’s exactly the kind of fights that we want, you know, a big challenge. And if I wanna be remembered in the sport, you know, those are the fights that you’ve gotta take.”

Garcia also is interested in moving back down from 140 pounds to 135 for title unification fights. Specifically, the Oxnard, California, native wants to battle WBA champion Jorge Linares (42-3, 27 KOs), who is scheduled to make a mandatory defense against England’s Luke Campbell (17-1, 14 KOs) on September 23 in Inglewood, California.

If he can’t lure Linares into a fight, Garcia has mentioned facing WBA/WBO 140-pound champion Terence Crawford (31-0, 22 KOs) or WBO super featherweight champion Vasyl Lomachenko (8-1, 6 KOs) in a lightweight fight. Boxing Crawford or Lomachenko would be contingent on them winning their upcoming fights against Julius Indongo (22-0, 11 KOs) and Miguel Marriaga (25-2, 21 KOs), respectively.

Garcia, 29, also could have difficulty dealing with former promoter Top Rank Inc., which promotes Crawford and Lomachenko. Garcia reached a financial settlement with Bob Arum’s Top Rank to terminate his promotional contract in May 2016.

Regardless, Garcia wants meaningful fights moving forward.

“I could take easy fights, easier fights, you know, fighting top contenders, but fairly easier fights,” Garcia said. “But that really doesn’t do anything. The fans won’t recognize you, won’t remember you. You know? It’s not gone help build a legacy.”

Thurman would fukk Mikey up not a good idea

 

[Newzz]

Why would you not hold him to the standard he's capable of?

He's not capable of being a top 5 fighter in the sport. He has too many flaws.

He's clearly underperforming and not focused on boxing like he should have been.

He was just very focused on Boxing and was clearly outboxed by a top 5 p4p talent.


Which one of us here is being delusional?

You say he's only a good fighter now yet before every broner fight you talk about him like he's an atg talking all that nonsense about a 4 weight champion and only 15 other people in boxing history have done that etc.

I've BEEN said Broner is a really good fighter and not great. I've also said he's elite at 140, which he is to me, because you cant name me guys who would even be favored over him outside of Crawford (& Indongo until August 21st). He also really IS a 4x Champion over 4 different divisions and the youngest person to ever do it (amongst the 16 who have). That's all #Facts.


That doesn't mean I think he's a top 5 p4p talent in the sport.

You flip flop to win arguments. You have no solid opinion. You also have no spine

Nothing I said has flipped. You cant provide any proof of me ever saying Broner is a top 5 p4p talent in the sport since losing to Maidana.

You sound look a fool for putting YOUR opinions off on me, because you hold him to standards he showed you he cannot obtain....and then you get mad like a fool afterwards, while wondering why Im not as upset as you are


Broner can lose 10 fights in a row, and he will forever be a 4x Champion over 4 different divisions, and the youngest in boxing history to ever accomplish that feat:abyoumad:

 

[MoroccanBoy]

He's not capable of being a top 5 fighter in the sport. He has too many flaws.




He was just very focused on Boxing and was clearly outboxed by a top 5 p4p talent.


Which one of us here is being delusional?





I've BEEN said Broner is a really good fighter and not great. I've also said he's elite at 140, which he is to me, because you cant name me guys who would even be favored over him outside of Crawford (& Indongo until August 21st). He also really IS a 4x Champion over 4 different divisions and the youngest person to ever do it (amongst the 16 who have). That's all #Facts.


That doesn't mean I think he's a top 5 p4p talent in the sport.



Nothing I said has flipped. You cant provide any proof of me ever saying Broner is a top 5 p4p talent in the sport since losing to Maidana.

You sound look a fool for putting YOUR opinions off on me, because you hold him to standards he showed you he cannot obtain....and then you get mad like a fool afterwards, while wondering why Im not as upset as you are


Broner can lose 10 fights in a row, and he will forever be a 4x Champion over 4 different divisions, and the youngest in boxing history to ever accomplish that feat:abyoumad:

He has more than enough talent to be a top p4p fighter. His problem is he has done no technical work at all. He hasn't improved in any way since his 130 and 135 glory days. He has the physical talent to be an atg but lacks the mental faculties and dedication to the sport. He's a broken fighter mentally. He folds under any type of adversity.

 

[Newzz]

He has more than enough talent to be a top p4p fighter. His problem is he has done no technical work at all. He hasn't improved in any way since his 130 and 135 glory days. He has the physical talent to be an atg but lacks the mental faculties and dedication to the sport. He's a broken fighter mentally. He folds under any type of adversity.

He's not a top 5 p4p fighter in the sport and doesn't have the capabilities to be one. As soon as you come to that realization, you'd realize you're holding him to standards he will never meet.

 

[California Burrito]

awkward

 

[MoroccanBoy]

He's not a top 5 p4p fighter in the sport and doesn't have the capabilities to be one. As soon as you come to that realization, you'd realize you're holding him to standards he will never meet.

The broner I saw at 130 and 135 had the capabilities to be one. It's not your fault he threw it away to go to the club and floss on instagram

 

[LauderdaleBoss]

He's not a top 5 p4p fighter in the sport and doesn't have the capabilities to be one. As soon as you come to that realization, you'd realize you're holding him to standards he will never meet.

Yup, Discussing Broner and his limitations is like talking about the made up future Golovkin opponents where nikkas want them to have all these added extra attributes that are impossible for them to carry. shyt ain't FN. You can't make Joe Calzaghe have Tyson one punch ko power. You can't give Victor Ortiz Ali's heart and chin. Broner ain't turning into a punch machine like Pryor or becoming cerebral like Rigo and Floyd.

Dude is a B level fighter through and through with his own ceiling on his skills and talent. He'll show flashes of brilliance with some guys, but will look ordinary against others.

It is what it is at this point.

 

[GREENandYELLOW]

Sorry for the delay. Was out of town and thought I might get it done on time.


Dan Rafael chat wrap 7/28:

- Porter will be back on the Mayweather-McGregor prelim on a fight that will air on Fox. Gervonta Davis will be as well.
- Diego De La Hoya vs. Randy Caballero and Antonio Orozco vs Roberto Ortiz are likely part of the Canelo-GGG card. Announcements coming soon.
- The Charlo's seem all business. Don't have a lot of patience for the media.
- Who is the better Charlo? Both seem the same, both are good.
- Klitschko has not decided if he will rematch Joshua, but they are proceeding as if they are. Wlad will make a decision in the next two weeks.
- If Klitschko vs. Joshua takes place in the US it will be on PPV in the US. Believes it would sell around 200k.
- Joshua's chin? Anyone who takes an A+ Wlad right hand and still fights on is okay.
- Unlikely Cleverly fights Jack unless he gets a lot of money.
- Broner looked drained at the press conference and at the weigh in. Don't like seeing a guy you know struggled to make weight come in so far under the weight limit.
- If Broner loses vs. Garcia he becomes a big name stepping stone opponent.
- Garcia is all about making the biggest money he can. Believes he wants to be at 135, but there are bigger fights at 140 and the biggest money is at 147.
- Picking Garcia by late KO.
- Would be a bit surprised if Broner KO'd Garcia.
- Rigo vs. Loma? Loma by KO.
- Danny Jacobs probably back in October or November as a main event at Barclays.
- If Charlo wins to become the GGG mandatory, he may have to wait. The mandatory is not immediately due and GGG can ask for a exception if he wants to unify.
- Washington vs. Miller? Has to pick Miller, but Washington is not a surprise.
- Just talk of putting Spence in Dallas. No opponent or date set.
- Tickets for Floyd vs. Conor are really expensive for a fight many expect won't be competitive.
- Beterbiev vs. Gvozdyk? Don't think TR will match them. Why have them fight each other and one get a loss, when they can go after other opponents.
- Believes that Beterviev will sign with TR. Doesn't believe that TR would bid on the Beterbiev fight if they didn't think they would sign him.
- Ward has a good relationship with TR, but right now he remains under contract with RNS and is happy to be with them.
- Would like to see Breazeale fight the Miller-Washington winner.
- Fighter who is the most opposite of Broner (Broner has talent, but underachieves, who has less talent but overachieves)? Holyfield.
- Kovalev has 0 chance of getting his loss vs. Ward changed to a no contest.
- Santa Cruz vs. Mares 2 has been agreed to and will take place Oct. 7, but does not believe it has been officially signed.
- Picking DeLoach vs. Gallimore.
- No chance Floyd carries Conor. He will KO him if he can.
- Gervonta Davis vs. Rocky Martinez? If the fight happens, Davis will punish him.
- Who is more delusional about their talent: Victor Ortiz or Eubank Jr.? Ortiz is a first ballot HOF in delusion.
- Regarding technology and their broadcasts, Showtime is in 2017 and HBO is in 2007.
- Thankfully the Michael Grant vs. Whyte fight is not being put on as it is dangerous and disrespectful.
- Believes McGregor might have a better chance to beat Mayweather than Grant would have vs. Whyte.
- Charlo vs. Lubin and Trout vs. Hurd will not be a double header. They will be two separate cards.
- Matthysse is supposed to be back this fall. Not sure he hangs with the top guys at 147, but he is always fun to watch.
- Bradley for the HOF? Awfully close, thinks he will get a lot of support. Probably inclined to vote for him.
- Mikey Garcia is very nice to deal with. Not a great interview, but not bad. Respectful.
- Benavidez likely fights in October vs. Dirrell for the vacant 168 lb belt.
- Believes Kell Brook gives it another go in the ring. If the same injury happens again, he would need to think really hard.
- Campbell vs. Linares? Campbell is a good fighter, but doesn't think he has a good chance vs. Linares.
- Rate these 5 HW's (Tyson, Foreman, Holmes, Lewis, Holyfield)? 1. Holmes, 2. Lewis, 3. Foreman, 4. Holyfield, 5. Tyson.

 

[Newzz]

Yup, Discussing Broner and his limitations is like talking about the made up future Golovkin opponents where nikkas want them to have all these added extra attributes that are impossible for them to carry. shyt ain't FN. You can't make Joe Calzaghe have Tyson one punch ko power. You can't give Victor Ortiz Ali's heart and chin. Broner ain't turning into a punch machine like Pryor or becoming cerebral like Rigo and Floyd.

Dude is a B level fighter through and through with his own ceiling on his skills and talent. He'll show flashes of brilliance with some guys, but will look ordinary against others.

It is what it is at this point.

Yep...100%.


I'd love for AB to let his fast hands go like Rau'Shee Warren does...he wont


As long as he continues to hold his hands hostage, then we losing against anyone on our level or above


Ima Broner fan, so of course Ima say he beating everybody, but realistically....he's a Mini-Boss like I said yesterday. You beat Broner, you ready for the Final Stage: Shawn Porter beats AB and goes on to give Keith Thurman his toughest fight. Marcos Maidana beats Broner and goes on to give Floyd Mayweather his toughest fight in years. Mikey Garcia beats Broner and surely is going to continue dominating and Im sure he either gives Crawford his toughest fight or beats Crawford.


Adrien Broner is a Mini Boss.....Goro from Mortal Kombat level, he's no Shang Tsung

 

[patscorpio]

- Porter will be back on the Mayweather-McGregor prelim on a fight that will air on Fox. Gervonta Davis will be as well.

So Tank wont be on the PPV card?

- Diego De La Hoya vs. Randy Caballero and Antonio Orozco vs Roberto Ortiz are likely part of the Canelo-GGG card. Announcements coming soon.

decent fights on PPV on paper..not overtly excited about them..they need a good co main event

- If Klitschko vs. Joshua takes place in the US it will be on PPV in the US. Believes it would sell around 200k.

i will try to be there if its in the US

- Joshua's chin? Anyone who takes an A+ Wlad right hand and still fights on is okay.

agreed

- Tickets for Floyd vs. Conor are really expensive for a fight many expect won't be competitive.

paying a 4 or 5 digit amount for tickets to this fight is asinine

- Beterbiev vs. Gvozdyk? Don't think TR will match them. Why have them fight each other and one get a loss, when they can go after other opponents.
- Believes that Beterviev will sign with TR. Doesn't believe that TR would bid on the Beterbiev fight if they didn't think they would sign him.

they should match them up..it would be a dope fight for 175..might as well sign to TR..see what they can do with him

- Would like to see Breazeale fight the Miller-Washington winner.

breazeale actually has a great chance to beat miller..breazeale has a decent workate for a big guy who also doesnt really come into the ring in shape..but both would give themselves a better chance to win..if they were able to get down into the 230s at least..especially miller

- Fighter who is the most opposite of Broner (Broner has talent, but underachieves, who has less talent but overachieves)? Holyfield.

holyfield is not really a good example..he had talent but overachieved...i would think tim bradley would be a better counter example to broner

- Gervonta Davis vs. Rocky Martinez? If the fight happens, Davis will punish him.

should not happen esp if rocky didnt hav any warmup

- Believes McGregor might have a better chance to beat Mayweather than Grant would have vs. Whyte.

- Charlo vs. Lubin and Trout vs. Hurd will not be a double header. They will be two separate cards.

dammit

- Believes Kell Brook gives it another go in the ring. If the same injury happens again, he would need to think really hard.

it sucks that kell within 2 fights suffered back to back eye socket injuries..because he is now risking his eyesight going forward...into 154 no less

- Campbell vs. Linares? Campbell is a good fighter, but doesn't think he has a good chance vs. Linares.

linares i think is hitting his prime and should win easily BUT he's had some absolute mindboggling losses in his career..good fight..surprised HBO is airing too

 

[aceboon]

Never mind, fake twitter acct

 

[1970s HeRon Flow]

@Newzz AB is second youngest behind DLH

 

[Newzz]

@Newzz AB is second youngest behind DLH

He's not. The WBO was not even a sanctioned belt when DLH won it.


Even still, idc, 1st or 2nd.....AB is part of a select crowd in Boxing history and always will be

 

[The axe murderer]

watched the gallimore vs deloach fight. They really went at it

 

[1970s HeRon Flow]

He's not. The WBO was not even a sanctioned belt when DLH won it.


Even still, idc, 1st or 2nd.....AB is part of a select crowd in Boxing history and always will be

If every 1 else acknowledges DLH as youngest, then he the youngest

Point is, AB is insecure as fukk, cuz DLH took some loses against great opponents,yet never had the need to remind every1 about being the youngest this, or any past accomplishments going forward,no one gives a fukk when you're still fighting