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It's more of the fact is that GGG is the "great white hope" even tho he isn't "White" if you get what I'm saying. Plus GGG is HBO top fighter they push so they push him he most. I'm a big GGG fan but if you go on Badlefthook or any other Boxing Forum and look at the comments they big up him like he the second coming of Christ. They used to like PAC because he was the anti Floyd and they thought he could beat Floyd. But soon as Floyd beat pac, PAC mania really died off. They thought JMM was a lucky punch so that didn't affect pac's status like the Floyd L. I know it's not 100% a race thing but it is a big factor into it. Just like if you go over to any other boxing forum and read about Ward. They hate him, they think Kovalev beat him clean, they say Ward is arrogant and whiny but them traits describe Kovalev more than Ward.:comeon:
Idk who is the next people's champ but it would never be a black boxer that speak their mind and dnt hold their tongue. If he is black he has to be the SRL type . I'm pretty sure their going to choose Loma as the next people's champ. He is white (Ukrainian) and he is great boxer. HBO already has him as the #1 P4P so you can expect a big push for Loma. ( I dnt think Loma deserves #1 but he do deserve a big push tho.) I wonder how the Loma stans are going to feel when they end up in the same side as the fans they hate.:mjgrin:



Why don't you tell us, since you're actively living it?:jbhmm:


:heh:



Besides, if you're a big GGG fan...what makes your opinions on GGG any different than what another GGG stan may say?:ohhh:



Yall all say the same thing imo:manny:
 

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well I disagree and I think out stan sets in the ring are definitely not like this

"these people are the ones who take even the slightest criticism or even the applaud of their favorite's opponent as a personal attack and they seemingly somehow put an equation mark between the taste in boxing and real life morals. They think that there's a light side and a dark side, they are repping the light side and everyone else reps the dark."

#SOGGang?

#CaneloCartel?



Neither of them fit this description?:ohhh:




Most Mayweather stans, Pacquiao stans, Golovkin stans, Ward stans, and Canelo stans all fit this criteria imo:yeshrug:
 

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Why don't you tell us, since you're actively living it?:jbhmm:


:heh:



Besides, if you're a big GGG fan...what makes your opinions on GGG any different than what another GGG stan may say?:ohhh:



Yall all say the same thing imo:manny:

It's rough man:mjcry:. It's an everlasting struggle. I'm a stan but I'm a realistic stan. GGG unrealistic stans say that he is the best middleweight of all time and that he would KO Andre Ward and Marvin Hagler and still to this day say Ward ducked him. That Ward only called GGG out when he already signed to fight another fight so it wasn't a duck. So dnt compare to them superstans breh. I'm realistic with mine.
 

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It's more of the fact is that GGG is the "great white hope" even tho he isn't "White" if you get what I'm saying. Plus GGG is HBO top fighter they push so they push him he most. I'm a big GGG fan but if you go on Badlefthook or any other Boxing Forum and look at the comments they big up him like he the second coming of Christ. They used to like PAC because he was the anti Floyd and they thought he could beat Floyd. But soon as Floyd beat pac, PAC mania really died off. They thought JMM was a lucky punch so that didn't affect pac's status like the Floyd L. I know it's not 100% a race thing but it is a big factor into it. Just like if you go over to any other boxing forum and read about Ward. They hate him, they think Kovalev beat him clean, they say Ward is arrogant and whiny but them traits describe Kovalev more than Ward.:comeon:
Idk who is the next people's champ but it would never be a black boxer that speak their mind and dnt hold their tongue. If he is black he has to be the SRL type . I'm pretty sure their going to choose Loma as the next people's champ. He is white (Ukrainian) and he is great boxer. HBO already has him as the #1 P4P so you can expect a big push for Loma. ( I dnt think Loma deserves #1 but he do deserve a big push tho.) I wonder how the Loma stans are going to feel when they end up in the same side as the fans they hate.:mjgrin:


I agree with you

I just ever really understood how boxing is so full with racist fans. Boxing is ruled by blacks and latinos mostly and Asians too in the lower divisions for a very-very long time now. Like more generations... you'd expect that the racist fanbase find another less frustrating sport to follow for themselves but it seem that's not the case. Idk why though... this seems more of an American hing though as far as I saw Brits sand behind their black fighters too and there black fighters not certainly have to be villains to become nationwide stars.

the Ward hate is ridiculous and really sheds light on the whole thing. I mean one doesn't have to like Ward, that's okay, but to picture Ward as the bad guy in the Ward vs Kovalev situation isi :why:
Even in this new JDJ situation the narrative which mot fans run with is Kovalev camp's and they rather assume that Ward is a bullshytting low life who tries to ruing JDJ's and KOvalev's relationship.
You see not Kovalev a certified racist who told his coach during the fist fight to not to talk to him... it's not him who's lying, everything is order between him and JDJ it's just Ward's side who's trying to ruin them... :dahell:

After Ward's side told the story JDJ all that sudden admitted that they really talked with each other something:sas2: but he, the guy who talks all kind of shyt in the media was somehow just quiet about the whole thing, didn't say anybody that "Ward's side asked him to join", he didn't even say it to his fighter cause he didn't feel it's necessary :duck:
I mean the story seems clear as day to everyone who's not biased, but they are... :yeshrug:
 

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It's more of the fact is that GGG is the "great white hope" even tho he isn't "White" if you get what I'm saying. Plus GGG is HBO top fighter they push so they push him he most. I'm a big GGG fan but if you go on Badlefthook or any other Boxing Forum and look at the comments they big up him like he the second coming of Christ. They used to like PAC because he was the anti Floyd and they thought he could beat Floyd. But soon as Floyd beat pac, PAC mania really died off. They thought JMM was a lucky punch so that didn't affect pac's status like the Floyd L. I know it's not 100% a race thing but it is a big factor into it. Just like if you go over to any other boxing forum and read about Ward. They hate him, they think Kovalev beat him clean, they say Ward is arrogant and whiny but them traits describe Kovalev more than Ward.:comeon:
Idk who is the next people's champ but it would never be a black boxer that speak their mind and dnt hold their tongue. If he is black he has to be the SRL type . I'm pretty sure their going to choose Loma as the next people's champ. He is white (Ukrainian) and he is great boxer. HBO already has him as the #1 P4P so you can expect a big push for Loma. ( I dnt think Loma deserves #1 but he do deserve a big push tho.) I wonder how the Loma stans are going to feel when they end up in the same side as the fans they hate.:mjgrin:
:russ:@ the bolded bruh . shyt never made sense to me if you think about it he has almost as much white in him as Ward :mjgrin:
I do think Loma deserves that push though. He is improving steadily in the pro game and I believe we haven't seen his best :banderas:
I know a ton of brehs who are high on his skills once I show em his matches :ahh:
 

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It's rough man:mjcry:. It's an everlasting struggle. I'm a stan but I'm a realistic stan. GGG unrealistic stans say that he is the best middleweight of all time and that he would KO Andre Ward and Marvin Hagler and still to this day say Ward ducked him. That Ward only called GGG out when he already signed to fight another fight so it wasn't a duck. So dnt compare to them superstans breh. I'm realistic with mine.


So, the extremists? Yeah...they are :scust: lol



I hate stanning next to extremists because they go overboard with their hate and their praise....and will never consider the fact they could possible be wrong in their assessments:wow:



There's a lot of reasonable GGG stans, but his extremists are the loudest ones. They give the stanbase a bad look. But a reasonable fan is always :salute: by me....I cant get mad bc someone likes a great fighter that I don't:manny:
 

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:russ:@ the bolded bruh . shyt never made sense to me if you think about it he has almost as much white in him as Ward :mjgrin:
I do think Loma deserves that push though. He is improving steadily in the pro game and I believe we haven't seen his best :banderas:
I know a ton of brehs who are high on his skills once I show em his matches :ahh:
Isn't Loma too small to be that type of tar though?

I guess he's gonna move up but I see his ceiling in idk... 140 maybe?

he's already 29 too
 

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I agree with you

I just ever really understood how boxing is so full with racist fans. Boxing is ruled by blacks and latinos mostly and Asians too in the lower divisions for a very-very long time now. Like more generations... you'd expect that the racist fanbase find another less frustrating sport to follow for themselves but it seem that's not the case. Idk why though... this seems more of an American hing though as far as I saw Brits sand behind their black fighters too and there black fighters not certainly have to be villains to become nationwide stars.

the Ward hate is ridiculous and really sheds light on the whole thing. I mean one doesn't have to like Ward, that's okay, but to picture Ward as the bad guy in the Ward vs Kovalev situation isi :why:
Even in this new JDJ situation the narrative which mot fans run with is Kovalev camp's and they rather assume that Ward is a bullshytting low life who tries to ruing JDJ's and KOvalev's relationship.
You see not Kovalev a certified racist who told his coach during the fist fight to not to talk to him... it's not him who's lying, everything is order between him and JDJ it's just Ward's side who's trying to ruin them... :dahell:

After Ward's side told the story JDJ all that sudden admitted that they really talked with each other something:sas2: but he, the guy who talks all kind of shyt in the media was somehow just quiet about the whole thing, didn't say anybody that "Ward's side asked him to join", he didn't even say it to his fighter cause he didn't feel it's necessary :duck:
I mean the story seems clear as day to everyone who's not biased, but they are... :yeshrug:

That's real talk and I agree 1000 percentage. I dnt know what up with Amerikkka. But it's sad that an Olympic Gold medalist with 0 losses can't get any respect over here and get shytted on by the majority white media. Like when after the Kov fight some rankings still had Ward below Kov IIRC
 

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