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His previous opponents? None of them are even on the same side of the mountain Canelo is on:heh:



And, he was used to weighing in around that weight. He hasn't weighed this low, 164.5, since 2012.....why do you think he tried to move up to Light Heavyweight? He cant make this low of a weight without being badly drained.



Too bad he was greedy and allowed Canelo to walk him right into a trap. Chavez fighting at 164.5 in 2017????:dead:
Chavez ALWAYS looked drained before fights, and he fills out just right and looks like a tank fight night. Just wait and see how big he comes in.
 

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Chavez ALWAYS looked drained before fights, and he fills out just right and looks like a tank fight night. Just wait and see how big he comes in.

You keep saying "wait and see how big he comes in" as if that means he's not drained breh. Im starting to think you don't understand what draining yourself, as much as Chavez is doing for this fight, means for your physical abilities in the ring. Ask Daniel Geale how he felt vs Cotto even though he came in the ring way bigger than Cotto:ld:



And for the record, Chavez Jr is gonna weigh less than Canelo on fight night per Memo ( Memo Expects Canelo To Be HEAVIER Than Chavez on Fight Night - Boxing News ) and Canelo is gonna be fully hydrated being that he has 10 extra lbs to make weight than normal:whew:



You know what though, go ahead. I don't wanna hear any excuses of Chavez being drained after Canelo hits him with a TJ Combo and beats him all around the ring:yeshrug:
 

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You keep saying "wait and see how big he comes in" as if that means he's not drained breh. Im starting to think you don't understand what draining yourself, as much as Chavez is doing for this fight, means for your physical abilities in the ring. Ask Daniel Geale how he felt vs Cotto even though he came in the ring way bigger than Cotto:ld:



And for the record, Chavez Jr is gonna weigh less than Canelo on fight night per Memo ( Memo Expects Canelo To Be HEAVIER Than Chavez on Fight Night - Boxing News ) and Canelo is gonna be fully hydrated being that he has 10 extra lbs to make weight than normal:whew:



You know what though, go ahead. I don't wanna hear any excuses of Chavez being drained after Canelo hits him with a TJ Combo and beats him all around the ring:yeshrug:
I'm saying this is nothing new in Chavez career, he's ALWYS done this, looked like this, and he comes in looking as big as ever.
 

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How was Tyson "always considered the better fighter" when he entered the first fight vs Lewis as the underdog?:jbhmm:


I mean, what kind of logic is that breh?:heh:




:dead: @ Lewis was "overstaying his welcome in the Olympics".:heh:



Disrespect a Gold Medalist brehs:francis:






What does this mean though breh? Like you're just grabbing at stuff that doesn't matter. Lewis didn't debut until 1989, after winning his Gold Medal in the Olympics. I see nothing wrong with that:yeshrug:




Because Riddikk Bowe ducked him........same prime Riddikk Bowe who would've gave Tyson all he wanted back then if we being reality:mjpls:





Tyson's fights vs Tillis, Tucker, and Douglas tell me that Steward's Lewis would KO whatever version of Tyson you wanna bring to the table. And remember, Lewis was older than Tyson right? And that what you said up above?:mjpls:


So if Tyson wasn't the same, Lewis couldn't have possibly been in his physical prime either:umad:



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Not even Cus D'Amato would've been able to help Mike beat Steward's Lewis:mjgrin:


how u start arguing with poster out of nowhere????? lol:ohhh::mjlol:
 

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Beyoncé wilder need to watch his mouth over here, Americans are nothing but food to us. All you Americans do is talk talk talk but when you come to the UK you get smacked up ala lacy, Charles Martin and that fat light skin negro that Joshua beat.
 

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Beyoncé wilder need to watch his mouth over here, Americans are nothing but food to us. All you Americans do is talk talk talk but when you come to the UK you get smacked up ala lacy, Charles Martin and that fat light skin negro that Joshua beat.



So yall refer to black people as "negros" over there huh @CasualKid? :mjpls:
 

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I got dragged into it:heh:



That thread is in the bushes now, but I just responded to him in here, bc I feel like if people wanna REALLY debate Boxing......do it in The Ring if you really believe in your views:sas2:


don't know why u waste ur time with casuals. that guy only knows one boxer and its mike. :russ:

breh tried to excuse prime mike struggling with james tillis cause of an ear infection when we have seen boxer with broken eye sockets, nose, jaws n fingers go on to win dominantly by ko. but naw beware of the ear infection. I been done taking him serious ever since bout mike.

mike was always gonna struggle with taller/rangy jab/grab skilled fighters that could move a bit...especially steward bred guys. not saying he couldnt win but he wasn't gonna steam roll them outright with kos in the 10 secs n shyt like that guy wants to believe.
 

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don't know why u waste ur time with casuals. that guy only knows one boxer and its mike. :russ:

breh tried to excuse prime mike struggling with james tillis cause of an ear infection when we have seen boxer with broken eye sockets, nose, jaws n fingers go on to win dominantly by ko. but naw beware of the ear infection. I been done taking him serious ever since bout mike.

mike was always gonna struggle with taller/rangy jab/grab skilled fighters that could move a bit...especially steward bred guys. not saying he couldnt win but he wasn't gonna steam roll them outright with kos in the 10 secs n shyt like that guy wants to believe.

I don't even know his rep, I was just responding to the tag. If I knew he was a super Mike stan, I would've hit him with a :camby: and dipped:heh:
 

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How was Tyson "always considered the better fighter" when he entered the first fight vs Lewis as the underdog?:jbhmm:


I mean, what kind of logic is that breh?:heh:




:dead: @ Lewis was "overstaying his welcome in the Olympics".:heh:



Disrespect a Gold Medalist brehs:francis:






What does this mean though breh? Like you're just grabbing at stuff that doesn't matter. Lewis didn't debut until 1989, after winning his Gold Medal in the Olympics. I see nothing wrong with that:yeshrug:




Because Riddikk Bowe ducked him........same prime Riddikk Bowe who would've gave Tyson all he wanted back then if we being reality:mjpls:





Tyson's fights vs Tillis, Tucker, and Douglas tell me that Steward's Lewis would KO whatever version of Tyson you wanna bring to the table. And remember, Lewis was older than Tyson right? And that what you said up above?:mjpls:


So if Tyson wasn't the same, Lewis couldn't have possibly been in his physical prime either:umad:



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Not even Cus D'Amato would've been able to help Mike beat Steward's Lewis:mjgrin:
Exactly Lewis was older than Tyson..23-24 beating up on 17 year olds. Come on b. And yes Tyson was ALWAYS considered the better fighter. At his best all the division went thru him. What does beating a fat coked out 10 yrs past his best Tyson prove? Nothing. Lewis needed that fight more than Tyson, same reason he tried to sue Tyson into a rematch. THAT Tyson went on to lose his 2 of his last 3 fights before retiring for good. Lewis on the other hand had Vit klit run him into retirement because his mom told him so. Top 15 all time but when you got dudes talking about he top 3 all time and better than Ali? That's when he becomes overrated. Same guy that was being battered by Bruno..out boxed by Mercer..knocked out by Tysons old sparring partner and Rahman is going to Trouble Tyson?? Hell na..Tyson would drill him in 4. And if you want to talk actual accomplishments my dude lets go..
 

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don't know why u waste ur time with casuals. that guy only knows one boxer and its mike. :russ:

breh tried to excuse prime mike struggling with james tillis cause of an ear infection when we have seen boxer with broken eye sockets, nose, jaws n fingers go on to win dominantly by ko. but naw beware of the ear infection. I been done taking him serious ever since bout mike.

mike was always gonna struggle with taller/rangy jab/grab skilled fighters that could move a bit...especially steward bred guys. not saying he couldnt win but he wasn't gonna steam roll them outright with kos in the 10 secs n shyt like that guy wants to believe.
Was it not a ear infection idiot? Was it not Tysons first step up? Go back and actually read what was going on leading up to the tillis fight... Yea all i know is Tyson considering thats who we debating about you bum ass clown..."all that guy knows is Tyson hur hur" wasnt even disrespecting..dude has his opinion..i got mines..aint no right or wrong in this.
 

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Exactly Lewis was older than Tyson..23-24 beating up on 17 year olds. Come on b. And yes Tyson was ALWAYS considered the better fighter. At his best all the division went thru him. What does beating a fat coked out 10 yrs past his best Tyson prove? Nothing. Lewis needed that fight more than Tyson, same reason he tried to sue Tyson into a rematch. THAT Tyson went on to lose his 2 of his last 3 fights before retiring for good. Lewis on the other hand had Vit klit run him into retirement because his mom told him so. Top 15 all time but when you got dudes talking about he top 3 all time and better than Ali? That's when he becomes overrated. Same guy that was being battered by Bruno..out boxed by Mercer..knocked out by Tysons old sparring partner and Rahman is going to Trouble Tyson?? Hell na..Tyson would drill him in 4. And if you want to talk actual accomplishments my dude lets go..


I love how you bring up the fact that Tyson went on to lose 2 of his last 3 fights after losing to LL (in order to downplay LL's W), but then forget that Tyson got smacked around.....TWICE.....by a guy LL beat (twice if we being reality) in Evan Fields also. LL with Steward would beat any version of Tyson 8 or 9 out of 10 times. The ONLY way Tyson could beat Lewis is by KO, and Lewis had a very sturdy chin just got caught slipping by Rahman bc he didn't take him serious. You keep bringing that up but forgetting that Tyson has been KOd 5 times shows your biasness:comeon:





Bottomline is, anybody that knows Boxing knows that Lennox Lewis is above Mike Tyson all-time. That's just facts.:hubie:



Mike's reign on the top was short like leprechauns:umad:



"from 86-91".....so, he was good for only 5 years?:dead:



His resume is lacking severely. Matter of fact, Tyson Fury already has a better win than any win Mike Tyson ever got :russ:


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