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WBC pass ruling that will prohibit fathers from being chief-second to their son


New ruling could affect Danny Garcia-Keith Thurman showdown


AT their Annual Convention today, the WBC passed a ruling that will prohibit fathers being chief-second to their son in WBC-regulated contests. The reasoning – delivered by President Mauricio Sulaiman – behind the move was over concerns that the father may not act in the best interest of their son if he’s in a difficult fight, and may let the bout go on longer than necessary.

While no commencement date was announced, it could have implications on the March 4 unification showdown between WBC welterweight champion Danny Garcia – famously trained by his father, Angel Garcia – and WBA boss, Keith Thurman. It is not clear if the WBA’s involvement would allow the ruling to be enforced.


Other partnerships this could affect include Floyd Mayweather Jnr and Snr, should “Money” ever return, and Chris Eubank Jnr and Snr – who today announced an ITV pay-per-view event at super-middleweight – should they compete in WBC title fights.

Fathers will still be permitted to train their sons for WBC-regulated contests, and allowed in the corner, but not as the chief cornerman and decision-maker.

The motion was met with some resistance from the inaugural trainers committee that consists of Abel Sanchez, Joe Gallagher, Eddie Mustafa Muhammad, and Stacey McKinley, but was ultimately passed by the committee.

This is not the first time the WBC have discussed this ruling, with talk of enforcing it as far back as 2009.

Other subjects up for discussion at the trainers’ meeting today ws the amount of rounds fighters partake in per month in the lead-up to fights. No motion was passed, after Paul Malignaggi, who chaired the meeting, mentioned the monthly figure fluctuates from fighter to fighter, and can be dependant on the stage of training camp they’re at. Also, it was advised that fighters should not be permitted to spar unless they are within eight pounds of their fighting weight.
 

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damn hbo did a little over 3.5 times the average viewership as showtime...on top of crawford-molina drawing big live..and that was not a good fight..showtime had the better card for sure but they are not running a damn thing

of course there is a reason why showtime went back to square 1 regarding the fights that aired on its network
 

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Nice write up on Jermall Charlo

Afterthoughts:

Charlo's momentary lapse of sportsmanship should not detract from the masterful maneuver he executed to win the fight. The level of difficulty of the catch-and-counter Charlo used to separate Williams from his senses cannot be overstated.

It is hard enough to pull off the catch-and-counter with the same fist, let alone score a knockout with it. And the uppercut is probably the hardest punch to set up, let alone deploy as a split-second reaction counter. But it seemed almost second nature to Charlo when he blocked an incoming right cross with his right glove and instantaneously returned fire using the same hand with pinpoint accuracy to seal his victory.

The maneuver was not just brilliant, it might well be unprecedented in the history of championship-level boxing. If anyone knows of a similar catch-and-counter sequence that resulted in a knockout in a major fight, please post a comment and tell us about it.

Charlo's latest victory also unveiled some other interesting qualities about the fighter:

-- When a fighter drops his opponents with a mere jab in three out of four title fights, it is the real deal. Not since Mark Breland has a fighter been able to not just stun, but seriously hurt other men of equal size with the most basic punch in boxing. Pound for pound, Charlo might have the best jab in the sport today.

-- With his latest win, Charlo has scored knockdowns and knockouts with every punch in the book - left jab, left hook, left uppercut, right cross and right uppercut. The only thing that has yet to emerge in his arsenal is body punching.

-- He has a pretty decent set of whiskers. Charlo's punch resistance was a question mark before the Williams fight but he absorbed everything Williams landed with aplomb, unflinchingly returning fire with composure each time he was nailed by a clean shot.

-- In the process of passing the chin test, the fact that Williams was able to connect with flush punches throughout the encounter exposed the holes in Charlo's defense. Slicker, more experienced fighters the likes of Canelo, Triple G and Danny Jacobs might be able to exploit the chinks in Charlo's armor more effectively than Williams.

-- Charlo appears overly concerned about his public persona and what his opponents, the media and fans say about him. Against Williams, he was able to contain his emotions until after the fight was over but as he advances to bigger fights, he might find it harder to keep his psyche in check.
 

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Showtime had so much momentum in 2013 N 2104...they fukked it all up N now no matter how good the fight they can't get viewers

Knowing this they need to stop going H2H with HBO...shyt ain't helping either

showtime had momentum in 2013...they were killin it in 2013..2014 it turned into bullshyt
 

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showtime had momentum in 2013...they were killin it in 2013..2014 it turned into bullshyt


2014 they were still doing numbers...they had Canelo still...Floyd still...Swift vs Herrera did a Milly

Fights like
Porter vs Paulie
Porter vs Brook
Matthysse vs Molina
Hopkins unifying


Towards the end of 2014 is when shyt got bad Cuz Haymon saved fights for PBC...but even then Showtime was still doing numbers... Swift vs Salka was "boycotted" N that shyt did what Crawford v Molina jus did on HBO

2015 Showtime officially fell off N they can't get back up now
 

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WBC pass ruling that will prohibit fathers from being chief-second to their son


New ruling could affect Danny Garcia-Keith Thurman showdown


AT their Annual Convention today, the WBC passed a ruling that will prohibit fathers being chief-second to their son in WBC-regulated contests. The reasoning – delivered by President Mauricio Sulaiman – behind the move was over concerns that the father may not act in the best interest of their son if he’s in a difficult fight, and may let the bout go on longer than necessary.

While no commencement date was announced, it could have implications on the March 4 unification showdown between WBC welterweight champion Danny Garcia – famously trained by his father, Angel Garcia – and WBA boss, Keith Thurman. It is not clear if the WBA’s involvement would allow the ruling to be enforced.


Other partnerships this could affect include Floyd Mayweather Jnr and Snr, should “Money” ever return, and Chris Eubank Jnr and Snr – who today announced an ITV pay-per-view event at super-middleweight – should they compete in WBC title fights.

Fathers will still be permitted to train their sons for WBC-regulated contests, and allowed in the corner, but not as the chief cornerman and decision-maker.

The motion was met with some resistance from the inaugural trainers committee that consists of Abel Sanchez, Joe Gallagher, Eddie Mustafa Muhammad, and Stacey McKinley, but was ultimately passed by the committee.

This is not the first time the WBC have discussed this ruling, with talk of enforcing it as far back as 2009.

Other subjects up for discussion at the trainers’ meeting today ws the amount of rounds fighters partake in per month in the lead-up to fights. No motion was passed, after Paul Malignaggi, who chaired the meeting, mentioned the monthly figure fluctuates from fighter to fighter, and can be dependant on the stage of training camp they’re at. Also, it was advised that fighters should not be permitted to spar unless they are within eight pounds of their fighting weight.


They can just say ok and run the corner anyway, strange.
 

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Nice write up on Jermall Charlo

Afterthoughts:

Charlo's momentary lapse of sportsmanship should not detract from the masterful maneuver he executed to win the fight. The level of difficulty of the catch-and-counter Charlo used to separate Williams from his senses cannot be overstated.

It is hard enough to pull off the catch-and-counter with the same fist, let alone score a knockout with it. And the uppercut is probably the hardest punch to set up, let alone deploy as a split-second reaction counter. But it seemed almost second nature to Charlo when he blocked an incoming right cross with his right glove and instantaneously returned fire using the same hand with pinpoint accuracy to seal his victory.

The maneuver was not just brilliant, it might well be unprecedented in the history of championship-level boxing. If anyone knows of a similar catch-and-counter sequence that resulted in a knockout in a major fight, please post a comment and tell us about it.

Charlo's latest victory also unveiled some other interesting qualities about the fighter:

-- When a fighter drops his opponents with a mere jab in three out of four title fights, it is the real deal. (1) Not since Mark Breland has a fighter been able to not just stun, but seriously hurt other men of equal size with the most basic punch in boxing. Pound for pound, Charlo might have the best jab in the sport today.

-- With his latest win, Charlo has scored knockdowns and knockouts with every punch in the book - left jab, left hook, left uppercut, right cross and right uppercut. The only thing that has yet to emerge in his arsenal is body punching.

-- He has a pretty decent set of whiskers. Charlo's punch resistance was a question mark before the Williams fight but he (2) absorbed everything Williams landed with aplomb, unflinchingly returning fire with composure each time he was nailed by a clean shot.

-- In the process of passing the chin test, the fact that Williams was able to connect with flush punches throughout the encounter exposed the holes in Charlo's defense. (3) Slicker, more experienced fighters the likes of Canelo, Triple G and Danny Jacobs might be able to exploit the chinks in Charlo's armor more effectively than Williams.

-- Charlo appears overly concerned about his public persona and what his opponents, the media and fans say about him. Against Williams, he was able to contain his emotions until after the fight was over but as he advances to bigger fights, he might find it harder to keep his psyche in check.


Agree aside of the bold ones

1: That's an exaggeration.
Kovalev did KD one of his opponents with a jab and while Charlo's jab is strong I find it a stretch to call it the best in the sport

2: He really didn't back down by the punches but I saw him rocked by some cause he was very exposed to those right hands

3: :mjgrin::aicmon:
 
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