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@krackdagawd whats ur prediction when the wlad/aj fight happens next year.

can he beat the young lion or is aj just to green. aj has the size of fury but not the mobility...:jbhmm:

It was the mobility and Wlad inability to pull the trigger. We saw it a bit in the Jennings fight too.

Wlad is :flabbynsick: if AJ chin can hold up he will probably outwork him to a decision.
 

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The problem with Wilder and anybody who agrees with him in his criticism of Joshua is that Wilder took his first step up fight 7 years into his career.
Joshua took his step up 3 years into his career.
Wilder was content to fight club fighters, part-timers and out and out bums for the majority of his time as a pro. So he needs to just eat that shyt and stop whining about his career choices.
And to be perfectly honest both of their step up opponents would have been considered jokes in a better era but because this era sucks dikk they just so happened to be world champs.

Also Joshua would not be as big as he in the UK if he was American but a heavyweight with KO power who was not a country bumpkin and actually had good promotion behind him would have been a bigger star than Wilder over here.
Allah Haymon has done a pretty shyt job promoting Wilder.
 

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VIRGIL HUNTER SOUNDS OFF ON JIM LAMPLEY'S "IRRESPONSIBLE" COMMENTARY OF WARD'S WIN OVER KOVALEV; SAYS HE NEEDS TO CHECK HIMSELF
By Ben Thompson | December 05, 2016
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BT: In a recent interview, while speaking about Dre's victory over Kovalev, Sergio Mora called out Jim Lampley for being too biased and opinionated in both his blow-by-blow announcing and his post-fight comments. I don't know if you had a chance to watch the rebroadcast of the fight yet, but do you think Sergio has a point? Do you feel like Jim Lampley's commentary has become too biased towards certain fighters?

VH: Well, you know, Ben, the reason why I did watch it [the rebroadcast] was because of what people were telling me about the broadcasting. It was interesting, disappointing, and enlightening all at the same time. I take a quote from an interview by Don Dunphy, considered the greatest announcer in boxing history. During most of his broadcasting era, people didn't have pay-per-view; it was radio. Years ago, someone asked him what made him such a great announcer. His answer was he never became a fan. He said he knew some boxers more than others, but when it came to the professionalism of calling a fight, he couldn't be biased; he couldn't favor one fighter. He said that's one thing he never allowed to happen because if you become a fan in that profession, then you're only looking at who you're a fan of. You're not going to give the other person the benefit of the doubt. He said it's the ultimate disrespect to the profession because you have to be able to see it both ways, and when you're a fan, it's impossible for you to see it both ways. I think that a lot of announcers who are fans should take heed to that and realize you have an obligation and a profession to report it right and get it right.

Now, I'll give you a great example. When Kovalev missed a right hand by a mile, in Lampley's opinion, it was a big right hand that shook Andre. When the broadcast team showed him that he actually missed it by a big margin, and in boxing, we're talking about a game of inches, right there, that should have let him know, "Maybe I'm not watching the fight the way I should be watching it. Maybe
I'm not observing it the way I should be observing it." Because after all, you're sitting right there, but the judges are sitting right there also, so how can you go and ridicule and put down the judges when all of them get it identically right, but at the same time, you got the fight right in front of you and you miss a call that missed by a foot just about and in you're opinion, it turned into a right hand that shook him? That right there should say just commentate the fight. You shouldn't have any opinions on the fight, you should commentate the fight, because you're not going to get it right. After watching it and hearing it, it's a situation where careers can be damaged if you're not careful, and these kids have to go through enough without having this up against them. It's just really unfair and it's not being responsible. It's not being fair.

Even Larry Merchant, who was sitting 8 rows back, he came out of his lane and wanted to be a judge; he came out of his lane and wanted to say it was home cooking and things like that. Well we know Andre never got home cooking from nobody. We know his gold medal didn't turn into him being "All-American boy"; we know that, so that was irresponsible. But when you're enamored with the fighter and you're enamored with how this fighter might go about his craft and you start giving this fighter these tags, "the sinisiter smile," "the meanest man in boxing," you're only going to watch that guy. You're not going to watch the complete fight. You're only going to watch him. It's very irresponsible if you ask me.


BT: There were actually quite a few times during the broadcast when both Max and Roy corrected some of Jim's calls or pointed out punches that Dre was landing that he didn't call at all.

VH: Right. I'm disappointed. I'm not disappointed in Max Kellerman. I'm not disappointed in Roy. I'm just disappointed in how...if there is a school for judges, there's gotta be a school for everybody else involved in the sport. If you're going to comment on the sport, if you have a mic, if you have a position in this sport where you can make or break careers and it's based on your personal opinion, then that's very serious. It ought to be some sort of insurance, be it by re-educating, be it by test runs or anything to make sure that you don't make these mistakes and then try to sway the public. Lampley is a nice man, I do know him, so I didn't even want to get that deep with it even though I know exactly what you're talking about. I just think he owes it to the fighters, he owes it to the fans, he owes it to the network and himself to really get himself checked and be honest with himself; "Am I capable of doing this, and if I am, am I biased in the way I call fights." I think if he would allow somebody to sit down with him and pick out fights where, not just me, but other people have felt that he was biased, and not just this fight, but other fights, if he's honest with himself and if he's intending on continuing to grow in his profession, then he would take it upon himself to subject himself to that. But if he thinks he knows it all and his word is the rule, the golden rule, then get ready for some more of this!


VIRGIL HUNTER SOUNDS OFF ON JIM LAMPLEY'S "IRRESPONSIBLE" COMMENTARY OF WARD'S WIN OVER KOVALEV; SAYS HE NEEDS TO CHECK HIMSELF || FIGHTHYPE.COM



Whisper to em Virg!!!:banderas::banderas:




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Lampley should have been put out to pasture with Merchant.
I am not Max's biggest fan but he can stay and Roy is always good on these broadcasts so he can stay too but HBO desperately needs a new play-by-play guy who actually can announce without having his feelings coloring the broadcast.
 

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The excuses when PBL clearly beats him in the rematch:banderas:

Siri has been in 4 tough fights since beating Loma 2 years ago. :yeshrug:

When's the last time Salido won anyways? 2014? Salido is on his way out at 36, Loma just waited for Siri to start aging.:yeshrug:

Loma's performance probably won't even be as dominant Mikey's, and that was a better version of Salido.:yeshrug:

Beating an old Salido is never going to erase that L.:yeshrug:

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#TheSweetScience :blessed:
Wasn't a gotdamn thing on TV last weekend so why they have to cram every fukking fight into this one? HBO and Showtime should never cannibalize their potential viewer numbers by having cards on the same night.
Its like the promoters/cable networks all deep down hate boxing fans and want to keep the sport as marginalized as possible.
 
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Siri has been in 4 tough fights since beating Loma 2 years ago. :yeshrug:

When's the last time Salido won anyways? 2014? Salido is on his way out at 36, Loma just waited for Siri to start aging.:yeshrug:

Loma's performance probably won't even be as dominant Mikey's, and that was a better version of Salido.:yeshrug:

Beating an old Salido is never going to erase that L.:yeshrug:

:umad:



The excuses have started:blessed:
 

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Officials for both Gennady Golovkin and mandatory challenger Danny Jacobs have until 5 p.m. ET on Wednesday to reach a deal on their middleweight championship or a purse bid will be ordered for Dec. 17 in Panama, WBA president Gilberto Mendoza told RingTV.com in an email.

Golovkin promoter Tom Loeffler didn’t immediately respond to a call for comment on Wednesday for an update on the talks and Jacobs advisor Al Haymon doesn’t speak to the media. But all indications suggest that, barring something unforeseen, a deal will not arrive by the 5 p.m. deadline and the WBA will be forced to intervene.

Loeffler had been trying to avoid a purse bid and make the intriguing fight between Brooklyn’s Jacobs, a highly-skilled cancer survivor and Golovkin, the IBF/WBA/WBC middleweight champion, for March 18 at Madison Square Garden, possibly on HBO PPV. However, if Haymon were to win the purse bid, he would almost certainly take the fight in a different direction, putting it in either Barclays Center in Brooklyn or in Las Vegas, likely at a later date.

Haymon would also certainly put the bout on either Showtime or Showtime PPV, forcing Golovkin, who is contractually bound to HBO, to either vacate his WBA title or somehow talk HBO into letting him fight on a rival network for what would be a career-high payday (he controls a 75-25 split of the purse bid).


The WBA informed both camps last Wednesday they had seven days to make a deal; the directive comes three months after the WBA formally ordered the fight to be made within 30 days following Golovkin’s fifth-round stoppage of Kell Brook on Sept. 10.

Golovkin and Jacobs have until 5 p.m. ET to make deal - The Ring


Is Jacobs gonna take Team GGG's offer............or is he going to take 25% and watch GGG take the other 75%?:lupe:
 
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