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Speaking of the WBA



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That's exactly why I stay shytting on Rankings when they brought up like they matter :dead:

Winner goin have to unify with someone ASAP N get that mando pushed back...cuz a 82 yr old basement DJ or unknown Euro CAC will cause outrage especially if Thurman is the one that wins
 

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you mean the same walters who turned down double his career high to fight lomachenko?:usure:.....even after loma offered him an extra 300k if he beat him:usure:

Yeah nikka, the same Walters that HBO didn't even wanna give 750k -800k to fight a two time Olympic gold medalist. :childplease:

Yeah nikka, the same Walters that has more impressive wins than Vargas. The same Vargas that struggled with a nikka Broner beat the shyt out of and stopped late

:mjlol: at believing that shyt about Loma giving Walters 300k if he would have won.
That don't mean shyt, if you get robbed. :snoop: (which is possible with these blind ass judges and refs we have.)

For the record, I think Vargas getting 1.6 offered to him, wasn't even bad and he should have taken it.

I just felt Walters is deserving of that type of money too.. Prolly more deserving really.
 

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Yeah nikka, the same Walters that HBO didn't even wanna give 750k -800k to fight a two time Olympic gold medalist. :childplease:

Yeah nikka, the same Walters that has more impressive wins than Vargas. The same Vargas that struggled with a nikka Broner beat the shyt out of and stopped late

:mjlol: at believing that shyt about Loma giving Walters 300k if he would have won.
That don't mean shyt, if you get robbed. :snoop: (which is possible with these blind ass judges and refs we have.)


For the record, I think Vargas getting 1.6 offered to him, wasn't even bad and he should have taken it.

I just felt Walters is deserving of that type of money too.. Prolly more deserving really.


All solid points....great counter-punching:obama:
 

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Tyson Fury a joke man lol. I hope he don't fukk up a future Joshua/Wilder/Ortiz fight by bullshyttin for paydays
 

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If im Jesse Vargas I'm asking for Charles Martin money... fukk a 1.6 :russell:


Bigger draw then Martin, better fighter then Martin, actually won the belt by fighting unlike Martin :mjlol:

Can stay at home N wait for a Pac or Bradley

Brook N em desperate for a name fighter, wanting muhfukkers to go to the UK with them refs that stop fights faster then the amateurs... Better pay up :beli:
 

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If im Jesse Vargas I'm asking for Charles Martin money... fukk a 1.6 :russell:


Bigger draw then Martin, better fighter then Martin, actually won the belt by fighting unlike Martin :mjlol:

Can stay at home N wait for a Pac or Bradley

Brook N em desperate for a name fighter, wanting muhfukkers to go to the UK with them refs that stop fights faster then the amateurs... Better pay up :beli:

True, if they already willing to go to 1.6

May as well hold out for a flat 2 mil or more.
 

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If im Jesse Vargas I'm asking for Charles Martin money... fukk a 1.6 :russell:


Bigger draw then Martin, better fighter then Martin, actually won the belt by fighting unlike Martin :mjlol:

Can stay at home N wait for a Pac or Bradley

Brook N em desperate for a name fighter, wanting muhfukkers to go to the UK with them refs that stop fights faster then the amateurs... Better pay up :beli:
True, if they already willing to go to 1.6

May as well hold out for a flat 2 mil or more.



Cant get Charles Martin money, because Anthony Joshua aint the one fighting Jessie Vargas...Kell Brook isn't 1/2 the star or draw Joshua is:manny:



Vargas better go get that money and un-enroll himself from the Winky Wright School Of Business asap:heh:



He'll never make 1.5 million for 1 fight in his career...he only got $600k for Timothy Bradley and is a non-draw himself imo.:yeshrug:



Either he takes that 1.6 million and hand over his belt to Brook, or wait for $750k to face Bradley again bc the TR stable at Welterweight is filled with nothing:mjlol:



You want big money....you better be fighting a popular fighter or join Team Al Haymon:mjpls:
 

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Philadelphia middleweight Gabriel Rosado, 30, who has twice challenged for 160-pound world titles, has been added to the undercard of the Francisco Vargas-Orlando Salido junior lightweight title fight on June 4 at the StubHub Center in Carson, California. Rosado (22-9, 13 KOs) will face Antonio Gutierrez in a scheduled 10-rounder, although the bout won’t be part of the HBO telecast. After a stretch in which he went 0-4 with one no decision -- all against top opposition, including in title fights against Gennady Golovkin and Peter Quillin -- Rosado looked good in a 10-round unanimous decision victory against former welterweight titlist Joshua Clottey in December.

Notes: Shumenov to defend interim belt Saturday night



I thought he was fighting JCC Jr?:dahell:



I guess this confirms JCC Jr vs Alfredo Angulo:manny:
 

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Cant get Charles Martin money, because Anthony Joshua aint the one fighting Jessie Vargas...Kell Brook isn't 1/2 the star or draw Joshua is:manny:



Vargas better go get that money and un-enroll himself from the Winky Wright School Of Business asap:heh:



He'll never make 1.5 million for 1 fight in his career...he only got $600k for Timothy Bradley and is a non-draw himself imo.:yeshrug:



Either he takes that 1.6 million and hand over his belt to Brook, or wait for $750k to face Bradley again bc the TR stable at Welterweight is filled with nothing:mjlol:



You want big money....you better be fighting a popular fighter or join Team Al Haymon:mjpls:

That's true too.

The thing is, if 1.6 mil aint good enough, than what is..

If he gonna fight in the UK, than I'd hold out for 2 mil, but if he's gonna fight in the states than he might as well take that 1.6 mil.

Vargas is due for a payday. He fought a lot of tough fights (don't always felt like he won them though) but he deserves to make some good bread. Just don't Winky up the opportunity.
 

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That's true too.

The thing is, if 1.6 mil aint good enough, than what is..

If he gonna fight in the UK, than I'd hold out for 2 mil, but if he's gonna fight in the states than he might as well take that 1.6 mil.

Vargas is due for a payday. He fought a lot of tough fights (don't always felt like he won them though) but he deserves to make some good bread. Just don't Winky up the opportunity.

Yep:salute:
 

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Cant get Charles Martin money, because Anthony Joshua aint the one fighting Jessie Vargas...Kell Brook isn't 1/2 the star or draw Joshua is:manny:



Vargas better go get that money and un-enroll himself from the Winky Wright School Of Business asap:heh:



He'll never make 1.5 million for 1 fight in his career...he only got $600k for Timothy Bradley and is a non-draw himself imo.:yeshrug:



Either he takes that 1.6 million and hand over his belt to Brook, or wait for $750k to face Bradley again bc the TR stable at Welterweight is filled with nothing:mjlol:



You want big money....you better be fighting a popular fighter or join Team Al Haymon:mjpls:



Could jus be like Sullivan Barrera... Y'all were :dahell: for him holding out N HBO paid more cuz they was desperate


Hearn N Brook are desperate for a decent opp...hold out for all you can get :manny:



You over play your hand N....

Wait on :deadmanny: N get paid more then 1.6


Fight Bradley hell get more then last time, plus he gets his revenge


Or like you mentioned wait for PBC who may be a possibility soon


Or Fight in UK N risk fukkery from refs and or judges
 

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Could jus be like Sullivan Barrera... Y'all were :dahell: for him holding out N HBO paid more cuz they was desperate


Hearn N Brook are desperate for a decent opp...hold out for all you can get :manny:



You over play your hand N....

Wait on :deadmanny: N get paid more then 1.6


Fight Bradley hell get more then last time, plus he gets his revenge


Or like you mentioned wait for PBC who may be a possibility soon


Or Fight in UK N risk fukkery from refs and or judges

I just don't think Bob Arum would put Jessie Vargas in a PBC ring with Danny Garcia or AB (the only PBC fighters that are currently available and can get him a good payday)...and even if he did, 1.6 million wouldn't be on the table for him imo.

Vargas can fight Bradley, but Bradley would have to take a huge pay cut for that to happen or it would have to be on PPV, because we know HBO ain't paying shyt right now (offered them $2.1 pot to split last time and with Bradley coming off a dominant loss to Pacquiao, Vargas losing to Bradley the 1st time, plus with the way HBO's budget is set up in 2016...the pot may be less than $2.1 million):snoop:

Only option I see for him is to either to take less than 1.6 million money to face Swift, AB, or Bradley and lose ...or face Brook in the UK for 1.6 million and lose.

Just imo
 
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