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[GzUp]

Was Andrade willing to move to 155, was hbo gonna allow a non hbo fighter on their broadcast?

i think canelo wants to fight guys with a name, i dont even know who andrade is

 

[mr. smoke weed]

That would be a great prospect fight







Unfortunately, it won't ever happen bc Bob Arum believes in letting those type of matchups "marinate"

Who's scalp is Valdezzz taking on 7/23?

 

[Newzz]

First off...you didn't answer the questions accept Khan.

khan's fanbase>>>>>>.....that's how he earned it

So, he didn't have to earn it? Just had to be popular huh?

we can do this for every fighter. you can't switch up your steez just cause you in a different thread. everything you said in other threads about canelo being the face of boxing and canelo calling all the shots.

When have I said Canelo doesnt call the shots?


That doesn’t mean I can't point out the fact that Golden Boy is keeping him away from these big athletic African American fighters who dominate the rankings of the weight (155) he fights at


If I can call out Floyd on things, Canelo can definitely be called out. Especially when it's obvious.

and clowning on golovkin for being 97g and fighting nobodies.

Why can't I laugh at lil g's PPV sales?

Still doesnt mean he has no fanbase as you keep saying because he has number 1 most viewed cable boxing Match of 2016, against a no-name at that, and does bring tons Of people to THE venues.


Secondly, I consistently talk about how lil g has fought legit people in the Top 10 of Middleweight including 2 in the Top 5 at the time....they just aren't that good to me in comparison to the division I've CONSTANTLY talked up as being the deepest which is Junior Middleweight. Canelo still fights at a weight they can face him at, 155, so I want to see him in the ring with them.


Thats facts only.

it still rings true here don't matter how much you like these other dudes. Canelo don't gotta fight golovkin cause he's 10 times the star he is. and golovkin is 10 times the star j rock and Andrade are.

Thats where youre wrong. Canelo does have to fight lil g or be stripped of his belt.

What I'm saying is, if he ducks lil g, then who is he gonna face? Another popular Welterweight? Cotto again? Or is he gonna fight some of the top JMWs who are willing to face him at 155?

Canelo told golovkin to beat somebody worth a damn and you laughed about it.

I laugh bc it's stupid, but since both sides are talking stupid, I go at it.

but now you mad cause we're sayin the same shyt about j rock and andrade.....Canelo earned his stripes. he calls the shots. end of story.

All this talking but no reasoning as to why Canelo faced Kirkland/Angulo or how they earned their shot


Looks like alot of spinning to me

and little g>>>>>Andrade and j rock

I agree, he is better than them. But I also guarantee lil g would've fought Andrade for his Championship at 154 as well instead of having his stans make up excuses as to why he fought James Kirkland instead

 

[krackdagawd]

@ nikkas in here getting trolled by Newzz.

 

[#SOG_soldier]

i think canelo wants to fight guys with a name, i dont even know who andrade is

Yeah canelo shouldn't hustle backwards at this point. If he fights it has to be an established fighter.

 

[Newzz]

Was Andrade willing to move to 155, was hbo gonna allow a non hbo fighter on their broadcast?

Andrade fights on both HBO & Showtime.

He's 6'1...you don't think he can make 155, when he was the 154 Champion?

 

[#SOG_soldier]

@ nikkas in here getting trolled by Newzz.

He was serious about canelo losing to lubin. He knows Andrade would get slumped.

 

[#SOG_soldier]

Andrade fights on both HBO & Showtime.

He's 6'1...you don't think he can make 155, when he was the 154 Champion?

Didn't say he couldn't just asked if he wad willing and if he was free. Hell is he even a bigger name than kirkland.

 

[Newzz]

@ nikkas in here getting trolled by Newzz.

Im 100% serious and have said this before. Only reason it popped up again is because @hyperman25 asked me about it on here instead of twitter

 

[((ReFleXioN)) EteRNaL]

First off...you didn't answer the questions accept Khan.



So, he didn't have to earn it? Just had to be popular huh?



When have I said Canelo doesnt call the shots?


That doesn’t mean I can't point out the fact that Golden Boy is keeping him away from these big athletic African American fighters who dominate the rankings of the weight (155) he fights at


If I can call out Floyd on things, Canelo can definitely be called out. Especially when it's obvious.




Why can't I laugh at lil g's PPV sales?

Still doesnt mean he has no fanbase as you keep saying because he has number 1 most viewed cable boxing Match of 2016, against a no-name at that, and does bring tons Of people to THE venues.


Secondly, I consistently talk about how lil g has fought legit people in the Top 10 of Middleweight including 2 in the Top 5 at the time....they just aren't that good to me in comparison to the division I've CONSTANTLY talked up as being the deepest which is Junior Middleweight. Canelo still fights at a weight they can face him at, 155, so I want to see him in the ring with them.


Thats facts only.



Thats where youre wrong. Canelo does have to fight lil g or be stripped of his belt.

What I'm saying is, if he ducks lil g, then who is he gonna face? Another popular Welterweight? Cotto again? Or is he gonna fight some of the top JMWs who are willing to face him at 155?




I laugh bc it's stupid, but since both sides are talking stupid, I go at it.




All this talking but no reasoning as to why Canelo faced Kirkland/Angulo or how they earned their shot


Looks like alot of spinning to me





I agree, he is better than them. But I also guarantee lil g would've fought Andrade for his Championship at 154 as well instead of having his stans make up excuses as to why he fought James Kirkland instead

Nah you're clearly switchin up your steez when it comes to golovkin and the fighters you like. Canelo doesnt HAVE to fight golovkin because as he's already said...he don't care about the belt.


you keep saying canelo avoids big African American fighters just as a way to eliminate lara from your argument because you know your argument holds no weight. this ain't even a debate....everybody can see you're reaching here. all these guys you're stanning are too shook to even face EACHOTHER. but conveniently you're not calling them out for it. only canelo. so once again canelo gotta take another risk for fighters who don't got the balls to take a risk themselves


you can bring up Kirkland and Angulo all you want. cause canelo already had the risky fights on his resume. when you take on challenges you deserve light touches here and there. he fought trout and floyd back to back. he deserved a lighter touch in angulo. he beat Angulo then he fought lara right after. then he fought kirkland to set up hype for cotto. but let's not forgot the only reason he fought Kirkland is because cotto bytched up in negotiations and canelo needed a quick opponent. if not it would have neen lara and cotto back to back. then after cotto he fought khan and now he's in negotiations with golovkin. show me another current fighter in the sport who's faced better competition in the last 3 years....go ahead. I'm challenging you.


Canelo earned the right to face ANYBODY. and andrade and j rock have not. point blank. deal with it.

 

[1970s HeRon Flow]

Yeah canelo shouldn't hustle backwards at this point. If he fights it has to be an established fighter.

If any of those guys that @Newzz thinks they can beat Canelo then they got a year to get some shyt going for themselves to get a fight,I think from here on out he only fights on PPV,I see him rematching cotto in September and hopefully GGG next May,if that doesn't happen then there is a chance for them to fight him in May,even if it does happen and he wins.then that's a year and a half to put in work and fight him in September next year,regardless they need to Make their OWN shyt happen and get their name out to Casuals for the Canelo Sweepstakes

 

[Axum Ezana]

Im 100% serious and have said this before. Only reason it popped up again is because @hyperman25 asked me about it on here instead of twitter

naw nikka I had saw that bread had reposted that shyt on his twitter ..so I just wanted to see if u was serious/explain it.

u be saying shyt on twitter that I don't see u say on here sometimes...that's all.

 

[((ReFleXioN)) EteRNaL]

If any of those guys that @Newzz thinks they can beat Canelo then they got a year to get some shyt going for themselves to get a fight,I think from here on out he only fights on PPV,I see him rematching cotto in September and hopefully GGG next May,if that doesn't happen then there is a chance for them to fight him in May,even if it does happen and he wins.then that's a year and a half to put in work and fight him in September next year,regardless they need to Make their OWN shyt happen and get their name out to Casuals for the Canelo Sweepstakes

for real. canelo has fights lined up out the ass. in 2 years if these dudes at 154 still haven't fought eachother, then they don't deserve shyt.

 

[Newzz]

Nah you're clearly switchin up your steez when it comes to golovkin and the fighters you like.

Have I ever said lil G wasn't a draw?

Canelo doesnt HAVE to fight golovkin because as he's already said...he don't care about the belt.

He doesn't care about the belt...but he's entered negotiations to fight at the full 160 limit, a weight he said he wouldn't fight at, in order to keep said belt instead of just dropping it?

Makes sense

you keep saying canelo avoids big African American fighters just as a way to eliminate lara from your argument because you know your argument holds no weight.

Lara is not big. He's 5'9 and the same height as Canelo. They are both shorter than J Rock, Lubin, & Andrade who are 5'11", 5'11", and 6'1.

this ain't even a debate....everybody can see you're reaching here.

But yet, people have cosigned me in here as well as on Twitter once I made the statement.

all these guys you're stanning are too shook to even face EACHOTHER. but conveniently you're not calling them out for it. only canelo.

So J Rock or Andrade should fight Lubin who only has 14 fights

J Rock and Andrade are on 2 different paths currently. J Rock is mandatory for the winner of Jermell Charlo and Austin Trout, but willing to give up his shot if Canelo ducks lil g and fight him at 155

Andrade is facing Willie Nelson after finally squashing his promoter issues. I'm sure Andrade & Williams wouldn't avoid each other....both Williams & Andrade called out Lara who didn't take the fight


“Lara said anytime, anywhere. How about April or May if he needs more time to hit the track and get extra laps in? One more thing, Lara, I have NEVER walked away from a signed contract. EVER! You probably never stopped running around long enough to even know that. The only contract I ever signed to fight Charlo was a month ago and Charlo declined. Lara said I signed a contract to fight Charlo before that. If he can show me an agreement that I signed to fight Charlo on December 13th, I promise to stop calling him out. Lara, you can run – everybody knows you do — but you can’t hide. We have unfinished business to take care of.”

Demetrius Andrade challenges Erislandy Lara


WBA super welterweight champion Erislandy Lara has a November 25th fight scheduled against Jan Zaveck but Williams said he would definitely be interested in facing the highly avoided Cuban in the future.

"That is a good fight to be made. He has a title and like I said I want a title shot and he has a title.

- See more at: Julian Williams on Erislandy Lara, Charlo, Harrison - Boxing News


So....what are you talking about breh?

so once again canelo gotta take another risk for fighters who don't got the balls to take a risk themselves

See above

you can bring up Kirkland and Angulo all you want. cause canelo already had the risky fights on his resume. when you take on challenges you deserve light touches here and there. he fought trout and floyd back to back. he deserved a lighter touch in angulo. he beat Angulo then he fought lara right after. then he fought kirkland to set up hype for cotto. but let's not forgot the only reason he fought Kirkland is because cotto bytched up in negotiations and canelo needed a quick opponent. if not it would have neen lara and cotto back to back. then after cotto he fought khan and now he's in negotiations with golovkin. show me another current fighter in the sport who's faced better competition in the last 3 years....go ahead. I'm challenging you.


Canelo earned the right to face ANYBODY. and andrade and j rock have not. point blank. deal with it.

All these excuses

He signed to face Kirkland in January 2015 and the fight took place in May 2015. I'm sure Andrade would've been available for a May 2015 fight...especially considering he had last fought in June 2014 on HBO and was the WBO Junior Middleweight Champion.

This video came out 2 weeks after Canelo announced he was fighting Kirkland:




So apparently, he wanted the fight, but Kirkland "earned" the shot instead



As far as your challenge for me to show you 1 Boxer who faced better competition over the last 3 years...

 

[Newzz]

If any of those guys that @Newzz thinks they can beat Canelo then they got a year to get some shyt going for themselves to get a fight,I think from here on out he only fights on PPV,I see him rematching cotto in September and hopefully GGG next May,if that doesn't happen then there is a chance for them to fight him in May,even if it does happen and he wins.then that's a year and a half to put in work and fight him in September next year,regardless they need to Make their OWN shyt happen and get their name out to Casuals for the Canelo Sweepstakes

How can they have a chance when popular Welterweights are still an option for Canelo?






Golden Boy sending out secret offers to Pacquiao


@Black_Jesus your boy might have one last fight in him