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finally got to see Dawson vs White.

That was the best he's looked in a long time. He let the left go more, threw combos, worked the body, and was defensively aware. Way more intensity.

I thought he was done, but he might be able to work his way up and get some decent wins. :ehh:

Go #BadChad :mjcry:
 

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finally got to see Dawson vs White.

That was the best he's looked in a long time. He let the left go more, threw combos, worked the body, and was defensively aware. Way more intensity.

I thought he was done, but he might be able to work his way up and get some decent wins. :ehh:

Go #BadChad :mjcry:

i told y'all...my nikka has one more run in him..gotta remain focused (and with one trainer)
 

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i told y'all...my nikka has one more run in him..gotta remain focused (and with one trainer)

True.
I'd love to see dude comeback. He was one of my favorite fighters. If #BadIntentions can come back and get a clear win over Soliman (something Wade couldn't do) then Dawson can definitely get something going.

fukk it.
Fonfara/Dawson would be a good fight to see if dude is really bout that comeback life.
 

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True.
I'd love to see dude comeback. He was one of my favorite fighters. If #BadIntentions can come back and get a clear win over Soliman (something Wade couldn't do) then Dawson can definitely get something going.

fukk it.
Fonfara/Dawson would be a good fight to see if dude is really bout that comeback life.

i like that fight..dawson can KO fonfara..then we go after superman...we going to watch out for that left hand this time :birdman:
 

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Dan Rafael chat wrap 4/22:

- Wade was a national level amateur, good skills, and solid power, but his resume makes thinking he has a chance very difficult. He hasn't fought anyone and a past his prime Soliman was a very difficult fight. He has only had two 10 round fights and never been in a 12 round fight. Predicts he gets beaten pretty easily and it could happen early.
- Over under GGG vs. Wade at 6 rounds? Under.
- Hard to say if Los Angeles gets as much buzz for fights as Vegas. LA is so spread out you can't get the feel of the city. The coverage in the newspapers has been good.
- HBO intentionally lined up GGG's fight this weekend with Game of Thrones and the Beyonce concert with the first 24/7 of Canelo-Khan on a free preview weekend. However, free previews do not count in the actual measurement of viewers/ratings.
- Has GGG ever been hurt in a fight? Not that he has ever noticed.
- Arum and Loeffler have told him that a fight between GGG and Gilberto Ramirez is possible.
- If GGG beats Wade and Canelo puts off a fall fight, who are good opponents for GGG? Saunders and Jacobs (if the WBA will order the mandatory - as they should).
- GGG does want to try and get Hopkins middleweight title defense record (record is 20 and GGG has 15 - all by KO).
- Hopes Sammy Vasquez gets a good opponent this year. He is with Haymon who has lots of good guys at 147.
- Instant replay should be used more in boxing.
- Pleased that Crawford vs. Postol is getting made, didn't think it would. Expects Canelo-GGG and Gonzalez-Estrada 2 to get made eventually.
- Arum was expecting a price for the Crawford vs. Postol PPV to be $44.95 (no mention if that was SD or HD).
- Which Olympic team was better: 1976 or 1984? Personally partial to 1984.
- Thought Kalajdzic beat Browne. DiBella had a pretty big melt down over the decision, but on a DiBella melt down scale it was only a 6 out of 10.
- Arroyo is a live dog, but he expects Gonzalez to win.
- Spence will be a PFP guy one day.
- Possibility of a Soto-Karass vs. Kamegai rematch, but they need a break. It would be the end of the year at the earliest.
- Why wasn't Lomachenko vs. Walters made? Walters chose not to take the fight.
- Predicts that Lomachenko vs. Martinez will happen and Berchelt will have to wait for the summer.
- Had Salido beating Lomachenko.
- Chocolatito vs. Inoue? Great matchup, hope it happens next year. Chocolatito probably deserves the edge.
- Wilder vs. Joshua right now? Whoever won it would be by KO.
- Very possible LSC vs. Frampton and Jacobs vs. Lee takes place July 30th at Barclays.
- Diego De La Hoya: contender or pretender? Prospect. Jury is still out.
- How much money did Pacquiao vs. Bradley lose? Arum said, none of your fukking business.
- Arum's comments about Manny's anti-gay comments costing them viewers wasn't directed at people being driven away just from hearing his comments, but rather the fact that people refused to help promote the fight because of those comments (Jimmy Kimmel not letting Manny go on his talk show).
- 15 years ago today Rahman beat Lewis. He picked Rahman, best pick he ever made.
- Cunningham is at the point where he is a name for up and coming contenders...unfortunately.
- Easter Jr. has moved from prospect to young contender after his Mendez fight.
- Better KO: Easter vs. Mendez or Menard vs. Bernardo? Menard. Mendez got up, Bernardo was out cold.
- Best CW? Lebedev, then Glowacki.
- Danny Garcia's next fight? Not decided, but would not be surprised if it is the winner between Berto-Ortiz 2.
- Opinions on Devin Haney? Very raw and very fast.
- Was 50 Cent good for boxing? No he was a disgrace and a fraud.
- Canelo vs. Khan will have closed circuit tickets available and they go on sale today and will be shown in theaters.
- For a stretch Don King put on great PPV cards. Absolutely loaded with top guys. But he never adjusted to the times and micromanages too much.
- Corrales vs. Castillo 1 was the best fight he was ringside for and maybe the best fight he has ever seen.
- Verdejo did not fight Jose Felix because Felix asked for 3-4 times the money that was actually available, according to TR.
- It does not bother him that Haymon chooses not to talk with the media. What does bother him is there is not a single representative from PBC who is available to handle media requests about fight/fighter/company info.
- Uchiyama is the best fighter at 130, but getting older. Walters, Gamboa, Vargas, and Lomchenko would all be excellent fights.
- His reaction when JMM KO'd Pacquiao? Holy fukk!
 
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Wait a minute.....so Lomachenko vs Walters is only worth a $1 million pot, while GGG vs Wade is worth a $2.5 million pot???:dahell:



HBO in 2016 brehs:dead:


Do 97k N get paid 2milly your very next fight

Tell me again how its PBC who are overpaying fighters :jbhmm:

Just imagine Danny Garcia doing 97k on PPV then getting 2 Milly against a Dominic Wade level Opp immediately after

Spoonface, Dr The Nig, Pat, the Herrera Stan, that Vato Loco who sometimes post...would be losing their god damn shyt:beli:
 

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Wait a minute.....so Lomachenko vs Walters is only worth a $1 million pot, while GGG vs Wade is worth a $2.5 million pot???:dahell:



HBO in 2016 brehs:dead:
This one I actually don't think is a huge deal. Trying to put my GGG stannery aside.
I mean, GGG gets better ratings than Lomachenko vs. Walters would (although I do think they needed more than a milly for the whole card). Now of course the Lomacheno-Walters fight is a much better matchup, but GGG is one of their best ratings bringers and ticket sellers (word is GGG-Wade is selling about 16k seats). Plus HBO pays more to "their" guys. GGG has an exclusive contract with HBO and they are invested into him for the long haul and in a lot of this is probably pre-negotiated into GGG's HBO contract (they guaranteed to show all his fights, no more taking stay busy fights and not showing them like 2 years ago). Not sure if Lomachenko or Walters are exclusive fighters, more like exclusive by political divide.
Add in HBO is trying to make Gonzalez their next guy. This is supposed to be Gonzalez's last fight being the 2nd fight on the card. His next HBO card he is supposed to be the headliner and he is talking about wanting more money.
Off that alone it is an expensive fight. :manny: We've seen Ward who is an HBO guy get paid similar amounts. Seems to be the norm at HBO for guys that are "their" fighters. Have to imagine that guys like GGG, Ward, Kovalev and any others who are HBO "exclusive" get first crack at being on the schedule and better pay days, while the other guys fight for what is left.

The real argument isn't as much the difference between those two card to me, but rather why are people complaining about PBC overpaying? Showtime did similar things and PBC does it too. I think the difference is because people knew PBC wasn't balancing the budget with the revenue coming back in, but that isn't the fighters fault. Fighters get what they can negotiate.
 

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- Over under GGG vs. Wade at 6 rounds? Under.

pretty much 2 or 3

- HBO intentionally lined up GGG's fight this weekend with Game of Thrones and the Beyonce concert with the first 24/7 of Canelo-Khan on a free preview weekend. However, free previews do not count in the actual measurement of viewers/ratings.
nothing wrong with that...if you got an hbo app or cable box - hbo is free that weekend...hopefully will cut down on any link request

- Arum and Loeffler have told him that a fight between GGG and Gilberto Ramirez is possible.
not interested in that fight

- If GGG beats Wade and Canelo puts off a fall fight, who are good opponents for GGG? Saunders and Jacobs (if the WBA will order the mandatory - as they should).
saunders more..gotta get that belt off hom

GGG does want to try and get Hopkins middleweight title defense record (record is 20 and GGG has 15 - all by KO).
solid goal :ehh:

- Arum was expecting a price for the Crawford vs. Postol PPV to be $44.95 (no mention of SD vs. HD).
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if they load this card, ill pay for it

- Why wasn't Lomachenko vs. Walters made? Walters chose not to take the fight.
:francis:

- Had Salido beating Lomachenko.
of course...shyt was clear as day who would win that from jump

- Chocolatito vs. Inoue? Great matchup, hope it happens next year. Chocolatito probably deserves the edge.
would be a dope fight

- Wilder vs. Joshua right now? Whoever won it would be by KO.
yup and it would be young Oluwafemi

- 15 years ago today Rahman beat Lewis. He picked Rahman, best pick he ever made.
great upset :ohlawd:..washed away the bad taste of the fukkery of the first rahman-tua fight and being sent to the bushes by maskaev

- Cunningham is at the point where he is a name for up and coming contenders...unfortunately.
:sadcam:

- Best CW? Lebedev, then Glowacki.
lebedev the best CW :childplease:

- Corrales vs. Castillo 1 was the best fight he was ringside for and maybe the best fight he has ever seen.
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yes :wow:

- Uchiyama is the best fighter at 130, but getting older. Walters, Gamboa, Vargas, and Lomchenko would all be excellent fights.
add salido, rocky, pedraza, fortuna, miura...130 has all the pieces to be the best division in boxing...we need the fights to happen
 
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