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There was people saying the reason Jccjr left Big Bear was to get his heel looked at...he went back to training so I assumed errything was ok

But Someone explain how you "fake" an injury to a fight that's not made or official :dead:...A fight that Chavez wanted instead of a Tuneup after the hand injury N against his teams wishes :beli:
 

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There was people saying the reason Jccjr left Big Bear was to get his heel looked at...he went back to training so I assumed errything was ok

But Someone explain how you "fake" an injury to a fight that's not made or official :dead:...A fight that Chavez wanted instead of a Tuneup after the hand injury N against his teams wishes :beli:

Lil Ceasars already said last week that his heel was fukked up, which is why he left camp originally to get it checked as you said, in response to Sr questioning him...the injury is legit.

If anyone is questioning ANYONE'S injury, we all know which Boxer who hasn't had any real receipts shown for their injury yet:mjpls:
 

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Muhammad Ali's Wife Discusses His Health, Youtube, Kind Nature
Updated at 06:39 AM EST, Wed Mar 9, 2016 Read More By :
Boxing great Muhammad Ali loves watching himself on YouTube though his wife regrets his inability to influence the world because of his failing health.

In a touching interview with The Times newspaper, Ali's fourth wife Lonnie gave an insight into the former world heavyweight champion's ongoing struggles with Parkinson's disease.

Long-time friend Lonnie volunteered to look after Ali when he became ill in 1984 and married him two years later.

"He does have advanced Parkinson's disease, so he is challenged," Lonnie told The Times.

"But he still is a positive person. We try to keep him engaged and connected to people, especially his family. The nature of the illness is that you become apathetic.

"The thing he loves most is watching himself on YouTube. He becomes so intense. It's as if he hasn't ever seen it before. He watches the Parkinson interviews. I remember in Michigan one time, he was watching himself, and said: 'I was crazy, wasn't I?' I said: 'Yes!'

"He loves watching the fights with Frazier too. He used to do these doodles of himself in a boxing ring. The only opponent he ever put in the ring with him was Frazier."

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Ali, 74, became famous for his championing of human rights issues as much as his sporting prowess, using his fame to exert influence beyond the boxing ring.
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Lonnie regrets he's unable to do this at a time when the world faces so many struggles.

"There are many times today that I wish his voice was stronger," Lonnie said when asked what Ali might be doing now if he wasn't ill.

"The world needs him. Islam needs him. These young people, these jihadists, are so misguided.

"He wouldn't have been a politician. If he was president, the White House would be open to the public and he would give everything away.

"But he would be doing more travelling, trying to build bridges. That ability to stand up and say things. That person is still in his belly . . . The tragedy is that his illness means the world can't see it."

Lonnie said generosity remains a hallmark of Ali.

"I have seen that a thousand times. He is so generous, so giving," she said.

"I have seen him empty his wallet for homeless people, and he didn't have anything like as much money as people thought. A lot of people have taken advantage of him but he doesn't mind. They sometimes say: 'Don't meet your heroes because you will see the blemishes.'

"With Muhammad I have learnt more with every passing year about how big-hearted he is. Even today, he wants to give back."

An exhibition on the boxing legend, I Am The Greatest: Muhammad Ali, is currently exhibiting in London.

Ali is the greatest!!!!
 

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Caveat Emptor: Timothy Bradley, Boxing and The NFL
Updated at 05:21 AM EST, Wed Mar 9, 2016 Read More By :
By Bill Dwyre

Over the years, as a sports columnist for The Los Angeles Times, I received no fewer than 200 emails that asked a version of the same question: How can you write so favorably and passionately about boxing when you keep ripping the NFL and its concussions. Isn’t that two-faced, unfair? Aren’t boxers concussed as much as football players?

The emails added up to 200 guilt trips. When you have a quick and logical answer for a reader, you fire off an explanatory response and feel fine. When 200 readers seem to have a point, you squirm.

I don’t deny that I like boxing, nor that I am fascinated by its people and its never-ending story lines.

The NFL? Not so much. I always despised its control-freak approach to everything, its holier-than-thou attitude. I covered enough Super Bowls to learn how to join the media crowd, click my heels and say “Moo, Moo.”

Still, disliking a sport because of its arrogance, not to mention the pile of lies it told the City of Los Angeles for those 20 years until it let the Rams come back, is not a good enough reason to be less than open-minded.

Two recent boxing situations prompted deeper thought, and a search for my own answers.

First, there was a conversation with Monica Bradley. She is the wife and manager of Tim Bradley, who will fight Manny Pacquiao April 9, in a widely anticipated match at the MGM Grand Garden Arena in Las Vegas.

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Among the selling points of this fight are the announced last-fight retirement of Pacquiao and the newfound attractiveness of Bradley as a boxer. Part of that comes from his blood-and-guts show and victory in the 2013 Fight of the Year against Russian mayhem-maker Ruslan Provodnikov. Fans love brawls and now have the expectation that Bradley can give them one against Pacquiao, who can also brawl with the best of them on occasion.

Monica Bradley said that, because of the Provodnikov fight, she had taken her husband to several neurological clinics around the country to be sure he was all right. She also was instrumental in hiring Teddy Atlas as Bradley’s new trainer. Atlas came with the expressed intention of teaching Bradley how to get hit less. When Bradley beat Brandon Rios in his most recent fight, and his first for Atlas, that’s exactly what took place.

The concern of the Bradley camp led to more thought.

Then came the announcement that, running counter to all logic and common sense, the people who run amateur boxing in the world will put on their Olympic tournament in Rio de Janeiro this summer with its amateur fighters competing without headgear. My colleague at the Associated Press, Greg Beacham, wrote a comprehensive story about this from the team trials at Reno, as the headgear question was still being discussed. The story was about 600 words, but only three were needed in way of explanation -- “more TV friendly.”

The international boxing federation (AIBA) and its president, Wu-Ching Kuo, have now officially sold out. More cut up and woozy amateurs will certainly boost the ratings. Blood sells.

Which brings us back to the pro fight game, where there is always enough blood to go around.

I pondered all this, and concluded that the only defense I have for treating it as a lesser evil than pro football is that it still is.

Of course, it is not croquet or rhythmic gymnastics. Of course it is violent and coarse. But at least it is honest in that. I have never heard a boxer say he had no idea he might get a head injury by doing this. The blood and guts and cuts and KOs and future slurring are not treated as a surprise, only an inevitability.

There is always hope, of course. Floyd Mayweather Jr., won 49 fights and probably took no more than seven or eight damaging shots over that entire period. George Foreman was heavyweight champion of the world over two different eras, which involved many punches taken and a knockout by Muhammad Ali. Yet, you cannot find a sharper, more lucid human.

Still, the norm is not pretty. I once interviewed the widow of boxer Mike Quarry days after this death. She told stories of changing his diapers and chasing him around the neighborhood when he wandered off.

In a recent article on the website The News Outlet, the American Association of Neurological Surgeons calculated that 90% of boxers end up with some sort of brain injury. That runs neck and neck statistically with the recent work on NFL brain injuries, where the Boston University Center for the Study of CTE (Chronic Traumatic Encephalopathy) recently announced that, of the 91 brains it has studied, 87 had CTE.

I worry about Bradley because his wife does.

I worry about Pacquiao, because he has already taken a huge knockout shot from Juan Manuel Marquez and because, if he can overcome his silly recent statement about gays and lesbians, he may become a Philippine senator, where they will need a man with all his faculties.

I worry about Pacquiao’s trainer, Freddie Roach, who is a great guy and former boxer turned world-class trainer, but whose limp seems to worsen and speech seems increasingly blurred.

But they all knew. They signed on for the shot at glory with full knowledge that it might bring them only brain damage. Boxing is brutal and they all knew that going in.

Football is the same. Brutal. But until recent years, when science simply forced itself on the see-no-evil, hear-no-evil NFL, football players did not enter battle pondering the possibility of lifetime scars.

They didn’t know. Jon Arnett didn’t know. Nor did Conrad Dobler, Tony Dorsett, Todd Marinovich, Bob Lilly or Alex Karras. Nor did my Notre Dame classmate, the late Pete Duranko. They played with illusions of grandeur and visions of sugar plums, while the NFL led them along, like lambs to the slaughter.

A Texas law firm hoping to represent many of the thousands involved in ongoing litigation against the NFL for all of the above and thousands more, O’Hanlon, McCollom & Demerath, lays out the case of action in the simplest of ways:

“Although the medical community was informed by evidence from other sports like boxing and had understood that repeated impact to the head can cause long-term brain damage for decades, the National Football League ignored the medical risks and sent players back onto the field, often in the same game.”

Both sports are violent. But boxing’s participants were always aware of that and chose it with full knowledge. Until recently, NFL’s participants were conned into risking life and limb. Their career decisions were made without knowing everything about their career.

It’s not all right if a sport is mostly violent, but it is less odorous if it never hides that.

The NFL, in the category of brain injuries, has left a stink for years to come.

That’s my rationale. Write me an email and that’s how I will respond.
 

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Benavides and Vargas been needing to fight for a minute though.

Easier fight than taking on AB though, which he was already a mandatory for AB's belt:manny:



My thing is this though, how is AB supposed to fight anyone when the actual Boxers themselves are maneuvering themselves out of his way:yeshrug:



Went from being a possible Adrien Broner vs Jose Benevidez mandatory title fight in the summer, to Adrien Broner vs the winner of Ricky Burns/Michele Di Rocco.....but then everyone is going to say Broner's the blame:wow:
 
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