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Dan Rafael chat wrap 2/19:

- Ticket info likely next week for Canelo-Khan. The contract for T-Mobile arena as the venue was finalized today.
- Canelo vs. Khan 750k PPV buys? Picking the under, but it could be close.
- Spence vs. Algieri is a good fight. Thinks Spence makes a statement.
- Spoke with Arum yesterday and said that Manny's anti-gay comments could affect sponsorship for the Pacquiao-Bradley fight. Sponsorship is a fraction of the overall revenue, so it shouldn't be a huge deal.
- Found what Manny said to be offensive. He his allowed to have those views, but when you voice them as a public persona you must deal with the consequences.
- Could Manny lose political standing in the Phillipines because of his comments? Doubts it, a lot of people there agree with those views.
- No one has hurt their image more than Pacquiao has in the last year.
- The plan is for Kovalev vs. Ward to be a PPV.
- Say what you will about Martin being a HW champ, but he deserves respect for going to the UK to fight Joshua.
- Is it too soon for Joshua to take this fight? You could say the same for Martin. Believes the fight ends in a KO.
- Showtime is finishing the deal to secure the rights to show Joshua vs. Martin.
- Doubtful the winner of Joshua vs. Martin fights Ortiz.
- Donaire's KO of Montiel was his KO of the year for 2011 (brought up as it is the 5 year anniversary).
- Canelo vs. GGG is the biggest and most exciting fight in boxing.
- Will GGG vs. Canelo happen this fall? Never truly believed it would. Remaining skeptical and hopeful.
- GGG tried to make a fight with Sergio Martinez, but Martinez/DiBella didn't want to make that fight (it was when Sergio was older and fading).
- GGG vs. 2011 Sergio? GGG by KO.
- Chudinov vs. Sturm? Chudinov.
- Yvon Michel told him recently that Stevenson's next fight will be against Fonfa or Elieder Alvarez.
- Kovalev and GGG will be in the boxing HOF? Too soon to say. Both are in progress building a case.
- Doubt we ever see Kovalev vs. GGG.
- Who is the best at 168 now that Ward is gone? DeGale and Abraham. We will see what happens with Abraham vs. Ramirez.
- Arum says he would like to make Lomachenko vs. Walters, but HBO has not committed to the fight and have not committed to buying Lomachenko's next fight regardless of opponent.
- Arum wants to make a double header on HBO with Lomachenko vs. Walters and also have Postol vs. Granados on the broadcast.
- How drunk will English fight fans be for Frampton vs. Quigg on a scale of 1-10? 15.
- Chances of Cotto vs. Brook? Zero.
- Wilder and Povetkin are in the process of negotiating. Likely will take place in Brooklyn.
- HOF for Winky, Sergio, Kessler, Chris John? Yes for Winky and Sergio, no for Kessler and John.
- Ali vs. Vargas is a sneaky good fight.
- Theophane shouldn't be ranked in the top 25. Bad fight.
- If Margarito wins, there is no chance of a Cotto trilogy.
- Crossing fingers that Salido vs. Vargas gets finalized.
- Danny Garcia vs. the winner of Thurman/Porter? Believes it is a fight Haymon would make and it would be a big fight.
- RJJ vs. SRL? At what weight...RJJ was bigger and faster than Ray. RJJ would handle him fairly easily.
- If he could have a piece of boxing history on video what would it be? SRR's prime welterweight fights and full fights of Harry Greb.
- The European fighters Haymon signs are guys who want to fight in the US. Don't expect Haymon to be branching out globally any time soon. He is still working on building domestically.
- Better puncher: GGG or Kovalev? One punch KO power, Kovalev.
- Jack vs. JCC on April 30th is still a possibility.
- Has seen fights he believed were fixed, but would not say so without proof.
- Believes that Floyd will promote some fights with his guys and Hearn's guys in the UK.
- Hearns vs. RJJ? RJJ by gargantuan KO.
- Who is the best drinker among boxers? Duran.
- Klitschko vs. Fury rematch doesn't have a date, but likely in June.
- Believes the ref was correct in DQ'ing RJJ vs. Griffin.
- Hearns vs. Winky at 154? A really good fight.
- Best ever at 154? Many would view it as Mike McCallum.
- Thoughts on the DC Armory as a venue? Older venue, not ideal, but solid. Unless you can get a seat in the first few rows, you are probably better taking a slightly less expensive ticket to sit in the raised seats a little further away.
- Tarver's failed drug test put doubt into his victories over RJJ.
- Feels ashamed he picked Joppy to beat Trinidad.
- Grade for the CBS SportsNet matches tonight? F.
- Matthysse vs. Herrera is not finalized.
- Klitschko is really funny, but most people don't get to see it.
- Favorite memories of Johnny Tapia is the time he spent with him outside of the ring. He was a really nice guy.
- Least accomplished 3 time champ: LSC or Broner? Broner. LSC beat Mares and some solid contenders. Broner has beaten DeMarco.
 
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- Is it too soon for Joshua to take this fight? You could say the same for Martin. Believes the fight ends in a KO.
- Showtime is finishing the deal to secure the rights to show Joshua vs. Martin.
- Doubtful the winner of Joshua vs. Martin fights Ortiz.

ortiz is busy with the WBA tournament (unless Tony upsets him somehow)

- Donaire's KO of Montiel was his KO of the year for 2011 (brought up as it is the 5 year anniversary).

another one of russell mora's infamous ref jobs...anyone could see montiel was in bushes after that left hook but he let it continue..thankfully not for much longer

- Canelo vs. GGG is the biggest and most exciting fight in boxing.

yes

- Arum says he would like to make Lomachenko vs. Walters, but HBO has not committed to the fight and have not committed to buying Lomachenko's next fight regardless of opponent.
- Arum wants to make a double header on HBO with Lomachenko vs. Walters and also have Postol vs. Granados on the broadcast.

that would be a dope doubleheader :leon:

- How drunk will English fight fans be for Frampton vs. Quigg on a scale of 1-10? 15.

theres going to be chanting galore

- Ali vs. Vargas is a sneaky good fight.
thats why i was interested in being there live


- Believes the ref was correct in DQ'ing RJJ vs. Griffin.
the first fight where roy didn't look like super roy..he prolly would have won it legit by KO..but you can't KO nikkas when they are already down like that

- Best ever at 154? Many would view it as Mike McCallum.
i dont mind..the bodysnatcher doesn't get the props he deserves

- Thoughts on the DC Armory as a venue? Older venue, not ideal, but solid. Unless you can get a seat in the first few rows, you are probably better taking a slightly less expensive ticket to sit in the raised seats a little further away.
thats why i got floor seats that are in those first few rows :myman:

- Least accomplished 3 time champ: LSC or Broner? Broner. LSC beat Mares and some solid contenders. Broner has beaten DeMarco.
broner is not going to like this :pachaha:
 

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Gotta boxing story for you Coli fam that happened just now. I just met & chilled with Winky Wright. Cool & down to earth brutha. We were joking & laughing. I told him I that he was robbed in the Jermaine Taylor right.

did he mention anything about his stigma being attached to anything considered a less than sound business decision?
 

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Gotta boxing story for you Coli fam that happened just now. I just met & chilled with Winky Wright. Cool & down to earth brutha. We were joking & laughing. I told him I that he was robbed in the Jermaine Taylor right.
He definitely was. I remember watching that fight, angry at the decision. And when I went to school on Monday, everybody was in agreement that Winky should have won and that Taylor is a bytch :lolbron:
 

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did he mention anything about his stigma being attached to anything considered a less than sound business decision?

:russ: Nah we were joking & laughing. Then he was cracking on one of his people who couldn't get his Microsoft Surface to work. When we saw each other we acknowledged each other like most Black people do. Then in front of his people & some execs I was like: How are you Mr. Wright & the room lit up & he started smiling. That's when him & me started talking boxing.
 

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He definitely was. I remember watching that fight, angry at the decision. And when I went to school on Monday, everybody was in agreement that Winky should have won and that Taylor is a bytch :lolbron:

from what i remember the last round neither of them went out and fought with urgency that the fight was still up for grabs..it was a pretty even fight..but winky didnt go out and try to take the belt from him..that cost him i think
 

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from what i remember the last round neither of them went out and fought with urgency that the fight was still up for grabs..it was a pretty even fight..but winky didnt go out and try to take the belt from him..that cost him i think

I thought Winky was pretty far ahead on points though bruh. I need to watch that fight because I thought Taylor won maybe 4 rounds
 
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