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Adonis does have a contract with PBC though. And HBO has an ongoing ban on PBC fighters so, unless they make an exception, he can't exactly fight on HBO either.
Ken Hershman was the one with the bug up his butt about Haymon though. The new guy who took over HBO Boxing in December, Peter Nelson, doesn't have any history at all (good or bad) with Haymon so it's possible that the cold war could be over.
 

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Oh I'll be there whenever u wanna open the chapter again. :sas2:
Numbers don't even sound right. I'm surprised you posted this thinking this would be some type of ether.

shyt I don't even think you read it:heh:... You tired nikka, go to sleep....
Newzz energy levels are Jeb Bush status :russell:

fukk yall nikkas, especially you @Piff Huxtable with the Jeb Bush drop:russ:



I didn't smoke no weed last night and went to bed sober for the 1st time in years...Im trying to cut back on my :smoker: until Im back to being just a weekend blazer, so I was salty last night when I posted:mjcry:



Anyways, yeah....@LeVraiPapi no, your boy Stevenson is ducking and it's plain as day to me. Yall can defend his/GYM actions all you want, but at the end of the day: Kovalev is about to face Andre Ward...do you know how crazy yall sound saying ME is scared to put hard hitting prime Kovalev in the ring with a 39 year old who was dropped by Fonfara and fought 2 D level light heavyweights (Bika and Karpency) in 2015?


You said:

Styles make fights and Kovalev can't take hard hits.

But yet, if I recall....the only one of the 2 of them to ever be KOd is Stevenson:mjpls:

They both fought Darnell Boone twice, but Kovalev is 2-0 against him while Stevenson was left:





Pillow hitting Pascal was making him buzz out and was getting him shanky. We all see the reason ME wouldn't want Kovalev to fight Superman.

Pascal has pillows now? That's interesting:jbhmm:


However, Fonfara and Pascal have similar KO ratios....but yet the only one to put either down was Fonfara dropping Stevenson while Pascal got destroyed twice by Kovalev.:jbhmm:


Seems to me like Kovalev's chin is a little sturdier than Stevenson's AND Kovalev has more punching power:sas1:


It seems more to me why GYM wouldn't want Stevenson to fight Kovalev...but let's continue:sas2:



He may be 39 but he has a very low mileage on him.

He's not B-Hop. Stevenson will lose soon.


Why risk fighting a threat when Kovalev Ward will be a PPV ? If he loses to Superman he wont have the same flash and leverage against Ward. In this business you have to keep winning or at least win the past 3 or 4 fights.

:wow: Sounds like straight out of the school of PBC thinking:wow:


"Why risk fighting a threat?":wow:


Because some fighters are throwbacks and want to prove they are the very best...and to prove that you have to fight the best. Amazing concept right?:heh:


"If he loses to Superman"...maybe that's not an option in his/their minds. Maybe they believe that Kovalev beats Stevenson, takes his belt, becomes Undisputed Light Heavyweight, Lineal, and #1 P4P then heads into the fight with Ward as the biggest fight in the sport. It's called ambition:obama:



You can say what you want but Kovalev best win is still a old ass B Hop and Superman is the draw with the belts. I'm just being fair here. Kovalev can lose against Ward and it can be played as Ward is the best pounds for pound boxer out there now so a L to him mean 0. Ward is also a classy guy who will not talk down or be dramatic over a fight.

However a L to Stevenson is a black eye for Kovalev after all the insults and all the trash talk. Even worse they have been saying Superman old and washed up.


Of course....but yet, you're acting as if Kovalev, who's a better boxer with more power than Stevenson, cannot win:heh:


It's a VERY winnable fight for Kovalev, and 1 I would wager Kovalev KOs Stevenson, who gasses out everytime, within the distance:wow:


ME and HBO know why they don't want the fight bro and I won't even say they're ducking because financially it makes lots of sense.

Stevenson nor his team don't want any action. PBC fighters in general (except a very select few) don't want to fight ANYONE outside of PBC who's a threat unless it mandated by an alphabet organization....period.:manny:


Wake me up when a PBC fighter is allowed to voluntarily fight against someone from another promotional company in a big fight outside of Floyd:russell:


Actions speak much louder, and the fact that since 2014, Kovalev has fought B-Hop, Pascal 2x, and Ward at the end of this year....while Stevenson has only fought D list 175lbers like Bika and Karpency, :usure:, Im pretty confident that ME/HBO has no problems putting Kovalev in tough. Can we say the same for PBC/GYM/Showtime doing the same for Stevenson?:mjpls:


I'll be waiting for Stevenson to prove me wrong...but I doubt it:wow:
 

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It's not even an argument (unless referring to the business aspect) Kkkov got suspect whiskers and Adonis has dynamite in his left

But the guy who's been actually KOd doesn't?:heh:


The guy who's actually been dropped more times in less career fights doesn't have suspect whiskers breh?:heh:


The guy who's actually killed someone in the ring, who has a higher KO %...KOing 26 of 30 opponents, actually has less power than Stevenson breh?:heh:


Yall killing me today:salute:
 
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But the guy who's been actually KOd doesn't?:heh:


The guy who's actually been dropped more times in less career fights doesn't have suspect whiskers breh?:heh:


The guy who's actually killed someone in the ring, who has a higher KO %...KOing 26 of 30 opponents, actually has less power than Stevenson breh?:heh:


Yall killing me today:salute:

doesn't mean he necessarily has more power, his opponent could have taking to many hits or a hard hit in sparring, and already had brain hemorrhage prior to coming into the ring or on the brink of having one
 

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doesn't mean he necessarily has more power, his opponent could have taking to many hits or a hard hit in sparring, and already had brain hemorrhage prior to coming into the ring or on the brink of having one

True:obama:


But I was using the total package (killed someone, has a higher KO%, has knocked out all but 4 opponents) to say Kovalev's punching power is > Stevenson's. You're right though, going strictly off a killing someone does not mean he has more power.
 

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Kkkov got dropped by a journeyman and he got rocked by Pascal a few times

what journeyman are we talking about? darnel boone? because everyone knows he hits like a truck and is very well schooled despite his record.

pascal isnt a light hitter at all. he throws bombs from akward angles. and kovalev never looked shaken or rocked. are you just making up your own narrative because you dont like kovalev?
 

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Antonio Margarito hoping to fight Canelo Alvarez or Miguel Cotto
By Scott Christ@scottchristBLH on Feb 2, 2016, 11:00a +

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Al Bello/Getty Images Antonio Margarito wants big fights, and isn't coming back just to be an opponent.


Antonio Margarito, who will make his return to the ring on March 5 in Mexico City, says he's coming back to get back into the upper echelon of boxing, and not just to make a few bucks or become an opponent. To that end, he's already talking about a possible third fight with Miguel Cotto, or a matchup with Canelo Alvarez.

From ESPN.com:


"I know Cotto has said no, but I'll go on insisting, and I would like to fight against Canelo. I thought he'd knock out Cotto and he couldn't, so I think he doesn't have the power. If it's not against them, I'm ready for the other champions because I know I have the hunger and the strength to become the world champion again."

Margarito, who turns 38 on March 18, hasn't fought since his December 2011 loss to Cotto in their rematch, a fight that arguably shouldn't have taken place to begin with, due to Margarito's surgically repaired right eye, which came from injuries suffered in a November 2010 loss to Manny Pacquiao.

In fact, it's questionable that Margarito (38-8, 27 KO) would be sanctioned again by a larger American commission. New York made a show out of possibly not licensing him for the Cotto rematch before ultimately letting the bout go ahead, and if nothing else, Texas has been known to license fighters who have been turned down elsewhere for various reasons. It was Texas who licensed Margarito to fight Pacquiao after Margarito was suspended by California in 2009, following a glove tampering controversy before his loss to Shane Mosley, and then refused to relicense him in 2010.

Margarito says that his body is responding well to the return to serious training, and that his eye has not been an issue, but we'll see how it plays out in the ring. His opponent, Jorge Paez Jr (39-7-2, 23 KO), is not a top fighter, but isn't hopeless, either. He will be small compared to Margarito, but then so is Miguel Cotto. Paez is a pretty decent choice to see if Margarito has anything left, particularly for a first fight in over four years.

If Margarito does get through that fight without incident, do you see him getting back into the mix?


Antonio Margarito hoping to fight Canelo Alvarez or Miguel Cotto




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what journeyman are we talking about? darnel boone? because everyone knows he hits like a truck and is very well schooled despite his record.

pascal isnt a light hitter at all. he throws bombs from akward angles. and kovalev never looked shaken or rocked. are you just making up your own narrative because you dont like kovalev?

Also, Kovalev beat Boone twice while Darnell Boone KOd Adonis Stevenson :heh:
 
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