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Berto is a struggle boxer because his boxing brain is next to nothing. How that needs to be explained is beyond me :heh:. I've already gone in numerous times on him its redundant. GGG can eventually take a L but Andre Berto will always be struggle status. If we put a list of the best welterweight fighters or champions of the last decade, where do you think Berto would be?
His brain entirely is leaving him. He's going to be punch drunk to hell
 

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Dan Rafael chat wrap 1/29:

- Garcia is not too small for welterweight. He is fast and a good puncher. Plus, many other current WW's came from lower divisions as well.
- 12k tickets accounted for at the Garcia-Guerrero fight included tons and tons of comped tickets (fan wrote in saying he works for an LA car dealership and PBC people came by and were giving tickets to whoever wanted them).
- Cotto vs. JMM is being discussed. Likely take place in the low 150's.
- Other than a few vocal minority, no one wants to see a crap Lara-GGG fight.
- Does not buy Loeffler when he says they will not negotiate weight at all with Canelo.
- Khan is Garcia's WBC mandatory. If the WBC follows its own rules, they will enforce that fight. We will see.
- Mayfield is excited and confident in his fight vs. Mikhaylenko. He was in good shape, which is why he took the fight on short notice.
- Most people think Kovalev is going to destroy Pascal. He is picking Kovalev by KO.
- Kovalev does not care about any of the comments Pascal makes.
- Hates seeing kids of fighters at their fights (in response to if Pascal will bring his daughter again).
- Pascal winning is an upset, but not a huge upset.
- Told the Montreal arena is near a sellout.
- No news on who Luis Ortiz will fight next. GB is searching for an opponent. GB would do a fight vs. Stiverne in a second. Don King is asking for outlandish requests to make that fight.
- Don King is not a benefit to any of his fighters at this point.
- Trout vs. Cotto rematch is a good fight, but RN and PBC won't likely be working together.
- He is a Joe Calzaghe fan and respects what he accomplished. However, a prime RJJ would destroy Calzaghe.
- The Ward vs. Barrera fight is not 100% finalized, contrary to what others are saying.
- Who would he like to see Anthony Joshua fight next? Chisora.
- Least likely to fight in 2016: RJJ, Toney, or Mikey Garcia? Garcia.
- Decent change GGG vs. Wade will take place. Awful fight in his opinion.
- From his personal dealings with Kovalev does not believe he is racist.
- The how much money does PBC have left is still a wait and see scenario. To him, the numbers do not bode well.
- PBC has some fighters less active than they would like to be.
- PBC likely won't have NBC or ESPN fights until April.
- PBC's legacy? Right now they have spent a lot of money with little to show for it. It just is sort of there. It hasn't been great or bad for the sport of boxing.
- The Bounce card is weak overall. He thinks the world of Lubin as a prospect, but he isn't main event material yet.
- Donaire will likely face Zsolt Bedak next.
- The idea of HBO/Showtime doing a joint PPV for Kovalev-Stevenson is ridiculous. You do those for massive events where there is no other choice. It would set a bad precedent. It just isn't that big of a fight PPV wise. Stevenson's side asked Main Events for a guarantee and Main Events agreed.
- Stevenson's next opponent is likely Eleider Alvarez or Fonfara.
- Roc Nation did a time buy with BET, but has only done one show so far.
- Soto and Vargas are talking, but nothing definitive. Both sides want the fight. It needs HBO to support it (it is a fight they should support).
- Canelo's opponent for May won't take long. They are working on it.
- Wilder says he would go to Russia if he had to vs. Povetkin. If Wilder vacates his title to face Martin and avoids Povetkin his reputation would be shattered and would be known as a ducker.
- Current fighter whose life makes the best screenplay? Hopkins.
- Judah's fight is off. Zab has turned down multiple fight offers and is likely to buy himself out of his contract.
- Judah for the HOF? Zero chance.
- Michael Moorer vs. Riddikk Bowe? Bowe by KO.
- The Thurman vs. Porter card is going to be presented as: Showtime Boxing on CBS, presented by PBC. It is a hybrid show, with Showtime announcers, and PBC elements, and whatever the heck that means. PBC's press release was vague and they will not respond to any media requests. Believes that both PBC and Showtime are both contributing money to make an expensive fight.
- Many people in the boxing industry and boxers read his chats.
- Favorite Margarito moment? Watching Cotto and Mosley kick the crap out of him.
- Absolutely believes Margarito fought with loaded gloves.
- Mike Alvarado is looking to make a comeback and likely will do so in the next few months.
- Rob Brant had a good showing. Not sure of how good he will become, but he is interesting to watch.
- Best heavyweight fight he has attended? Probably Lewis-Klitschko.
- Better career: Hopkins or ODH? Hopkins.
- If Chocolatito vs. Estrada 2 happens, it won't be until the second half of the year.
- Valdez vs. Gradovich? Good step up for Valdez, he should win handily.
 

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Somehow some way PBC was able to give away tons N tons of tickets to fill 12k attendance

PBC supposedly gives away tickets all the time N never reaches anywhere close to 12k...I wonder how they accomplished this feat in a city where there is so much to do :jbhmm:
Yeah fat Dan can get all the way the fukk out of here.
 

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N the next muhfukker that types the name Andrade is getting negged on sight

Have no network to fight on...has had only two fights since beating Vanes in November 2013

Might as well bring up Mikey Garcia N Chino...if you bringing up Andrade :camby:
 
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Rigo with Pedro Diaz

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we celebratin people showing up cause they got free tickets now?



a-a-at least they didnt go to the movies! pbc goat! :gladbron:
 

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I have just stopped responding to the GGG hate lately. It doesn't even make any sense. GGG ducking Lara? :mjlol:

Who said GGG is ducking Lara?:jbhmm:

I could've swore we said Lara > Tureano Johnson, Dominic Wade, whatever random low tier fighter K2 will bring out of the bushes for GGG's next opponent and y'all GGG stans won't have a problem with.

Lara has all sorts of 154 problems.

Does he? Because I could've swore he has only lost to 1 active fighter...Canelo, and Canelo refuses to run it back:jbhmm:

Shall we talk about all the 160 problems David Lemieux had but yall still fought him? What about Willie Monroe?:jbhmm:

How about every fighter, except 7, that GGG has fought in his 34 fight career came into the ring with 2 or more losses on their record....did they still have 160 problems or nah? :jbhmm:


Maybe he should try beating some of the quality fighters in his own division.

Hmmm, this is interesting considering that Lara has already faced 4 former/current Junior Middleweight Champions in his 26 fight career...while Mr. Mexican Style has only faced 2 former/current Middleweight Champions in his:jbhmm:

There are plenty there and with PBC can be made. The Charlo's, Andrade, and Williams all probably are more well thought of than him at this point, so go beat them.

Both Charlos and Andrade have both turned down fights against Lara over the past 2 years. And Lara has a better resume than all of em and is ranked higher than all of em on any list....but he's thought of as lesser?:jbhmm:

If Lara is going to move to 160 he is supposed to get an immediate shot vs. the best fighter in the division.

*scans names of the horrible fighters GGG has defended the belt against, including a washed up Kassim Ouma who was 1 fight removed from 154 and 2-5 in his last 7 bouts before getting an immediate shot at GGG's Championship:jbhmm:*


Okay...
Let's not mention GGG is trying to make unification fights or face his mandatory to keep his belts. Happens to every other fighter they stan, but for some reason GGG is ducking Lara's mediocre ass.

Ducking Lara? Who's said this?:jbhmm:

By the way Im sure everyone who is a Boxing head, and NOT a GGG stan, knows that GGG vs Lara is a much better matchup than GGG vs Ousmanu Adama...but yet Adama was "deserving" of a shot while Lara isnt:jbhmm:


I guess Wlad ducked Briggs for years and Bradley is currently ducking Vargas. :rudy:

Wlad fought the best opponents around his weight class for years...same with Bradley. They have respected and thorough resumes.

Are we putting GGG's name in the same breath as those two when talking opponents? :jbhmm:

The GGG vs. Ward argument is just fodder at this point. It was fun, but you can see neither guys was moving towards the other. GGG's camp (and notice it is his camp, not GGG) talk about fighting at 168, but have never committed to it. They aren't ducking Ward at 168, because he hasn't fought anyone at 168. But, but, but he wanted a catchweight...called negotiation.

It's called a duck when you are willing to fight Carl Froch, Julio Cesar Chavez Jr, and James DeGale at the full Super Middleweight limit AND in their hometowns...but you aren't willing to do so for the (at the time) Super Middleweight Kingpin. You want him to drain down to a catchweight in order to fight:jbhmm:

Again all their fighters be playing those games. I guess it is cool for Canelo to hide behind 155.15 lbs, but hold the 160 lb belt.

Hide?:jbhmm:


I could've swore Canelo has been on record saying he will not fight 1lb over or under 155, and has subsequently fought every opponent since September 2013 at a 155 catchweight:jbhmm:


What makes you think that a guy who can barely sell 150k on PPV, is gonna get him to change his stance when he's even said this in regards to a rematch with Floyd?:jbhmm:



Lest not forget that Ward (outside of GGG) has good fights at 168. DeGale would have been interesting, Dirrell brothers would have been cool,

You aware that a RNS/Haymon fighter will never do business due to their dealings in the music industry right?:jbhmm:

Those fighters you named are Haymon's...it won't happen.

maybe lure Froch back...but he didn't take another fight at 168, he moved up.

Really? Is that how the situation played out? Or was it that Froch said he knows he cant beat Ward on the cards & he wouldn't fight Ward again, who previously beat him clearly with a broken right hand the 1st time, unless it was in Nottingham....the same place Andre Dirrell was robbed in the Super 6...and Froch would also get the larger split:jbhmm:



So GGG would have made Ward stay at 168? :comeon:


I could've swore Ward said numerous times he would fight GGG at 168 and Team GGG kept demanding it to be at 164.:jbhmm:
 

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we celebratin people showing up cause they got free tickets now?



a-a-at least they didnt go to the movies! pbc goat! :gladbron:


Name one Fight card that was "struggling to sell tickets" that did any where near 12k

You'll duck the question like always :mjlol:


N don't make me bring up how many Nachos N Churros were sold :umad:
 
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- Mayfield is excited and confident in his fight vs. Mikhaylenko. He was in good shape, which is why he took the fight on short notice.
i picked mikhaylenko in the predictions thread but i hope karim wins and redeems himself for laying an egg against dulorme

- Most people think Kovalev is going to destroy Pascal. He is picking Kovalev by KO.
yeah..i have a feelin this shyt is going to be ugly

- No news on who Luis Ortiz will fight next. GB is searching for an opponent. GB would do a fight vs. Stiverne in a second. Don King is asking for outlandish requests to make that fight.
- Don King is not a benefit to any of his fighters at this point.
im surprised king isnt chillin on all the stolen millions hes gotten from his fighters..the man's like 80 :heh:..ortiz vs stiverne..still want to see it and mostly stiverne will prolly get washed by him

- Least likely to fight in 2016: RJJ, Toney, or Mikey Garcia? Garcia.
its sad because its true :smh:

- Decent change GGG vs. Wade will take place. Awful fight in his opinion.
agreed

- Current fighter whose life makes the best screenplay? Hopkins.
that or joe frazier

- The Thurman vs. Porter card is going to be presented as: Showtime Boxing on CBS, presented by PBC. It is a hybrid show, with Showtime announcers, and PBC elements, and whatever the heck that means. PBC's press release was vague and they will not respond to any media requests. Believes that both PBC and Showtime are both contributing money to make an expensive fight.
i have no idea what this means...all i know is i have my ticket to this and hopefully the rumored undercard comes to fruition

- Favorite Margarito moment? Watching Cotto and Mosley kick the crap out of him.
- Absolutely believes Margarito fought with loaded gloves.
he does not like margarito at all :pachaha:

- Mike Alvarado is looking to make a comeback and likely will do so in the next few months.
hopefully off the drugs and free of fukkery..they need to give him some easy easy fights..he needs that

- If Chocolatito vs. Estrada 2 happens, it won't be until the second half of the year.
:myman: hopefully it does
 
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